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The revert (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education&diff=prev&oldid=1247435954) is an abuse of WP:Unconstructive for keeping the article frozen in time, which is ironically WP:Disruptive.

WP:See also permits adding relevant and related topics to the section. Topics such as Tongwen Guan and Prussian education system will add a non-western and non-anglo-american WP:Newbie perspective to the article. Nolicamaca (talk) 08:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're not likely to be useful links for the average reader of this article, which is what the See also section is for. They cover very interesting historical phenomena, but they are temporally and spatially overspecific for an article as general as this one. They deserve discussion on more specific articles, not a shoehorned, inexplicable tacking-on to the end of this one. Remsense ‥ 论 08:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Really, I'm perplexed by their specificity—why 同文館 and not any other event or subject from the history of education in China? It seems indefensibly arbitrary—just to add something regardless of its particular appropriateness.Remsense ‥ 论 08:52, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nolicamaca and thanks for your suggestion. The topic of education is very wide and innumerable articles are vaguely relevant to it. It's not possible to add a see-also link for every article that is somehow related, like the article on this specific government school in Beijing you added. Maybe the link can be added to an article on a more narrow topic, like Education in Beijing. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:27, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 2 September 2024 and 10 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Xiaohui Zang (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Xiaohui Zang (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently there is a two-stage reference system in this article, the inline citations refer to Section Sources, which in turn refers to Section References. The Section Sources is many times repetitive, only providing information on differing page numbers. This differs from citation style of most other wikipedia articles. I propose to reformat the citation style, to "Named references in conjunction with a combined list of page numbers" in line with Wikipedia:Citing sources#Citing multiple pages of the same source HudecEmil (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello HudecEmil and thanks for raising the point. The current style is Help:Shortened footnotes. It's very common in featured articles on Wikipedia and is used in many academic sources. Changing it for the whole article would be a lot of work and I'm not sure that there is a good reason to do so. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The subsection "Sources" contains all the full citations. Each source should only be included one time there. If there are duplicates, they should be removed. I had a short look but I didn't spot any duplicates. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below

Now more children are enrolled in school than ever before but far too many of them are not learning. Data from Multiple Indicator Cluster Surveys (MICS) show that many children around the world today are not equipped with foundational reading and numeracy skills that prepare them for the world beyond school.

The fact comes from the following source:

https://data.unicef.org/topic/education/learning-and-skills/

Additional comments from user: It is important to showcase children's education enrollment.

This post was generated using the Add A Fact browser extension.

Laiasolagonzalez (talk) 01:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. The fact about higher enrollment than ever before is discussed in various parts of the article, including the lead and the "History" section. The overview sources on the history of education that I'm aware of usually emphasize how education in the contemporary era has overall improved, not that it degraded. So without historical context on this specific finding you mention, I'm not sure that it should be discussed in the article. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]