Talk:Domain fronting

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I think it would be nice for this article to include some well-known examples of domain fronting. Somerandomuser (talk) 19:07, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can provide Meek (Tor Bridge), Snowflake (also a tor bridge) and Signal (messenger) as examples.

See https://bamsoftware.com/papers/thesis/index.html#fig:meek for the former two. WofWca (talk) 11:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are some problems with the article in it's current form. Language like 'communicate with an entirely different site' applies when one is using a CDN provider as a proxy through to your real back end. However if you're simply using a large web host like google app engine or S3 this is incorrect.

The trick around domain fronting is not in fact hiding a website behind a generic host, rather it's utilising the common IP block and SSL certificate presented. I'll update the article shortly. Deku-shrub (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Deku-shrub (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

...because they are. I was rewriting it a little to describe in greater detail how the 'collateral freedom' aspect of domain fronting worked; felt that the last paragraph of §Technical details was the best place to put it. That part will be better when I (or any of the other editors) get back to it. However, it's the first paragraph of §Technical details that looks shoddy; one the last sentence there is unfinished. I was meaning to get more work done, but I won't be able to finish more things today. I'll get back to this article in two days max.

The other editors can feel free to remove the unfinished-looking parts for the time being, leave it as is, or edit it themselves. I'll come back to this in the next couple days.

On a related note, I do plan to work on §Usage in the very near future as well. Rn it's really rudimentary, I just wanted to get some of the major users out here into the article. The previous version of technical details (before I redid it to be more technical) talked about Signal and some other (I think?) deploying fronting; it had other helpful citations for this. The editors can feel free to edit §Usage in the meantime as well. —I'llbeyourbeach (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is https://bamsoftware.com/papers/thesis/index.html#fig:meek However, that drawing is specific to the Meek bridge of Tor, I think it's fine. The paper is in public domain: https://archive.org/details/fifield-thesis Confirmation: https://forum.torproject.org/t/a-draft-research-paper-about-snowflake-comments-welcome/9585/16?u=wofwca

Let me know if you agree to replace the current one, or put it in "Technical details" WofWca (talk) 08:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]