Talk:Classy 101

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 16:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid by surprise there? Source: Antena3
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I'm not sure if this is an interesting fact, but at least I'm trying.

Santi (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, and I do my QPQs oldest first so I wouldn't get to this any time soon; you should consider integrating where Miko and Feid are from into the hook for interest purposes. Los Angeles is pretty big, it's not unusual for two people to meet there.--Launchballer 21:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for at least suggesting something, I'm a little nervous. I have already incorporated the suggested information; If another source is required, I will put it in, but at the moment I won't because DYKs usually only have one. I don't know if it's appropriate, but I hope you can move forward and get the help you need to find the healing you so desperately seek. I wish you success in everything you do, because I see that you are very good. Santi (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I forgot one more thing. I put this hook because in the interview given as a source Miko reveals that she was a big fan of Feid, so with this I concluded that it could be interesting. Santi (talk) 21:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I would suggest something like ALT1: ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko featured the Colombian singer Feid on her single "Classy 101" after a chance meeting in Los Angeles?--Launchballer 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New hooks are proposed with new ALTs, previously existing hooks should not be altered.--Launchballer 18:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I have no more suggestions. So, I'll wait for another review (the template you used points that out) to improve. Anyway, thanks for reviewing and clarifying the process. Santi (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, Earwig's nice and quiet. I should note for posterity that WP:UPSD whinges about refs #2 and #15 and that WP:RSP says WP:ROLLINGSTONE is generally reliable for culture matters. I proposed ALT1, so new reviewer needed to check it.--Launchballer 19:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Thanks for review. Don't worry so much about what the bot tells you. Sometimes it makes mistakes, as does the Copyvios plagiarism detector (look what happened in the GA review of You're Losing Me). The context matters more than certain literal rules. Santi (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Is this approved? If not, what needs to happen to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 13:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My ALT1 needs approving.--Launchballer 13:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Pollosito: Congratulations on the GA - impressive for an editor with only 784 edits. I have a few issues we need to sort out but first, please use edit summaries (see H:FIES). It looks like you use them occasionally but even when you do many are not descriptive. A review of this nomination, Earwig does not alert to copyright issues. The article is not overly promotional and the prose is readable and neutral. I added "image has rationale=yes" to your album cover upload.
  Is this correct? Because I do not find this in the translated source, the process "came out supernatural". Note that supernatural has a different meaning than the intended when used as a compound word. Also "it was very easy to flow with him" - are these in the foreign language video which I see in citation 5 because I do not find them in the translated text of that citation. For @Launchballer:'s ALT we need to establish that this was a chance meeting because in our article we only state that she had no contact with him prior to the collaboration. But this hook also relates the the above concern: the hook is not supported by the end of sentence hook citation in our article as citation 5 does not state these things. Bruxton (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: Do I really need to describe every edit I make? I find that very tiring in itself, but it's okay. All information in ref 5 is based solely on the video, never from the translated text. So I put sic? Regarding what you said to Launchballer, I think common sense should be used more, because, if we put it as the article says, surely the hook will exceed the number of characters allowed. Santi (talk) 16:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pollosito: If you are questioning the edit summary note, it is not my requirement but I referred you to the guide H:FIES. I pulled out the relevant passage in case you did not know how to access it:

According to the consensus policy, all edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page.

but that is unrelated to this nomination.

I examined and tried to verify the hook: according to our article I think you may have made assumptions about a "chance meeting". We cannot assume especially for a main page appearance. Additionally at present struggling with why you put this in your comments above: I don't know if it's appropriate, but I hope you can move forward and get the help you need to find the healing you so desperately seek. I wish you success in everything you do, because I see that you are very good. What is that about? Launchballer made no reference to struggling of seeking help. Bruxton (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: I'm sorry if I committed any serious offense with that comment. I simply looked at the user's talk page and felt it was appropriate to try to give him comfort. Regarding the hook, let me examine it one more time because then I have no more ideas, I'm sorry for how raw I am with DYK. Santi (talk) 15:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pollosito: Change supernatural to "super-natural" and either modify the hook so that it matches our article and the source or present a new one. WP:DYKHOOK

...citations in the article that are used to support the hook fact must verify the hook and be reliable. The wording of the article, hook, and source should all agree with each other with respect to who is providing the information – if the source is not willing to the say the fact in its own voice, the hook should attribute back to the original source as well.

Bruxton (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: After examining the article a bit, I propose another alt:
ALT2: that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid there, having not composed for him nor having had there been any contact with him before?
I hope that's correct. If not, I have information about the entry to the Billboard Hot 100, but I guess it is much less relevant. Santi (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's 210 characters.--Launchballer 16:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid there, without having had any contact with him before?
And this one? This is the most harmonious hook with the prose and source for my consideration. Santi (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I suspect that ALT3 will need to be reworded, I will tweak it Bruxton (talk) 22:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• ALT3a: ... that Puerto Rican singer Young Miko composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and had never met Colombian singer Feid before he recorded the song with her?