Talk:Chris Kreider

Chris Kreider is currently a Other sports good article nominee. Nominated by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) at 03:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article. This review will be closed by the first reviewer. To add comments to this review, click discuss review and edit the page. Short description: American ice hockey player (born 1991)

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Is it Kr-I-der or Kr-EE-der?AEJ (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The former. Rlendog (talk)

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 15:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Kreider with the New York Rangers in 2014

• ... that Chris Kreider (pictured) scored his first five NHL goals before ever playing a regular season game? Source: Chris Kreider's playoff run now record setting as Rangers rookie scores again "Those five goals are the most ever scored by a player before playing in their first regular season game."
  • ALT1: ... that Chris Kreider (pictured) is the first NHL player to score his first five NHL goals before ever playing a regular season game? Source: Chris Kreider's playoff run now record setting as Rangers rookie scores again "Those five goals are the most ever scored by a player before playing in their first regular season game."
  • ALT2: ... that Chris Kreider (pictured) is the New York Rangers' all-time leading playoff goal scorer and powerplay goal scorer? Source: Shesterkin, Kreider help Rangers rip Devils 5-1 in Game 1 "Kreider became the Rangers all-time leader in playoff goals. He now has 36 to Rod Gilbert’s 34. His power-play goals gave him 14, surpassing Adam Graves (13) for top in Rangers' playoff history."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Late Report

5x expanded by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chris Kreider; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

• This is not 5x expanded. The prose portion was 7,881 characters as of this edit, and 17,240 as of now. That's a little over 2x. —holly {chat} 02:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should be good now. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: You're just shy of the 5x. I redid the count using Prosesize, and it was 7611 before you started, and 35K now (you need 38K). —holly {chat} 20:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Howcheng, Should be good now.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: - pending
Overall: There are some minor style issues, like hyphens being in place of en-dashes, but otherwise it's fine. We just need the QPQ for this to be approved. —holly {chat} 20:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I donated a QPQ and am verifying now. Bruxton (talk) 15:11, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng and HickoryOughtShirt?4: For accuracy, the person did play in regular season games, so I changed ALT0 and One to say "before" instead of "without". Bruxton (talk) 15:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If his first full season was the 2012–13 season, then why was he still considered a rookie in the following season? I know the source says Rangers' rookie Chris Kreider... but how can that be, when the definition of "rookie" is an athlete in their first season? Or is it the case that anyone with an entry-level contract is considered a rookie? —holly {chat} 20:53, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Howcheng a player is a rookie unless they play 25 games. See Rookie#Ice_hockey. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:47, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chris Kreider/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · contribs) 03:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 15:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments:

• For how big the article is, I think the lead should be expanded some.
• Stats section doesn't have a source.

  WikiOriginal-9, at the very bottom of this article it says Biographical information and career statistics from.... HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I wonder if this article couldn't benefit from some season subheadings. I know you've probably been intentionally not too doing that but it might make navigation a little easier. It looks like Sydney Crosby doesn't have season subheadings because each season just has its own paragraph but for Chris Kreider some of the seasons have multiple paragraphs so subheadings might be helpful.
• No source for height and weight in the infobox or him shooting left.

  WikiOriginal-9, at the very bottom of this article it says Biographical information and career statistics from.... HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  NHL.com and Hockey Ref say he is 230 lbs. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)  Done[reply]

• Add commons to external links section.  Done
• "Although he transferred to Phillips Andover for his junior year, Kreider repeated his sophomore year at the private school" What private school? The previous sentence said he went to public school.
  • WikiOriginal-9 He repeated his sophomore year at Phillips Andover despite technically being a junior. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  So was he in high school for four years or five? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  WikiOriginal-9 Obvi I will try and find a better source, but according to this "He agreed to enter Andover as a repeat sophomore but was able to graduate in 2 years by taking an accelerated summer program at the end of his final year." HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That will work. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Done! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Was he at Phillips Andover for three years? Article only mentions two years: "In his first year" and "He improved the following year"

  I think I answered this above but it was two years at Masconomet Regional High School and two years at Phillips Andover. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft" Lowercase entry draft. It's lowercased now (for right or wrong)  Done
• "Kreider recorded four shots on net in his NCAA debut on October 18 against Vermont" Link shots on net (I just created the redirect), NCAA, and Vermont (there's probably a team link).  Done
• "to lift Boston College over Notre Dame" link Notre Dame team.  Done
• "Prior to joining Team USA" Probably a hockey specific link for that?  Done
• "2009-10 Hockey East All-Rookie Team" I think the - should be a –. Also link Hockey East  Done
• "In their championship game against Maine" link Maine  Done
• "Kreider scored a goal in the 2010 NCAA Division I men's ice hockey tournament" That's already linked earlier as Hockey East semifinals so maybe remove the "Hockey East semifinals" hidden link.  Done
• "short-handed goal" link to short-handed goal  Done
• "2012 Beanpot Tournament" Beanpot Tournament was linked earlier.  Done
• "win over Minnesota in the Semifinals" link Minnesota. Also, is Semifinals supposed to be capitalized here? It wasn't earlier for the Hockey East semifinals.  Done
• "against Ferris State" link  Done
• "entry-level contract with the Rangers" This is the first time it's mentioned in the body so link New York Rangers.

  It was mentioned earlier when he was drafted. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "and one hit" link hit to something
• "played on the second line" link to Line (ice hockey)  Done
• "Quarterfinals", "Semifinals", "Finals", and "Final" are linked a bunch in this article but those terms are lowercase at their own article (for right or wrong).  Done
• "Prior to the start of training camp" link training camp  Done
• "power-play" link  Done
• "while playing top six minutes" What's that mean?
• "hat trick" link  Done
• "hat trick" and "hat-trick" are both used in this article. Just use one for consistency.  Done
• "plus-9 rating" What's that? link?  Done

  Linked to Plus–minus (sports) HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "penalty minutes" link to penalty minutes  Done
• "Kreider injured goaltender Carey Price when he crashed his net in the second period" Is that supposed to say "Kreider injured goaltender Carey Price when he crashed into his net in the second period"?  Done
• "they met with the Los Angeles Kings in the 2014 Stanley Cup Finals" I assume they lost?  Done
• "game misconduct" link  Done
• "boarded" link
• "Jonas Brodin" link  Done
• "He would score again in Games 2 and 3 to set a new" change to "He scored again in Games 2 and 3 to set a new"  Done
• "The Rangers would go on to win the series" change to "The Rangers won the series" Done
• "Kreider would set new career highs" remove would  Done
• "Brian Leetch in 1992-93." I think the - is supposed to be a –  Done

  Changed to since Brian Leetch in the 1992-93 season HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Same for 1990-91  Done
• "neck spasms" link  Done
• "all at even strength" I think I know what that means.  Done
• "start of the 2014-15 season" update the dash like above  Done
• "supplemental discipline" is there a link for that?
• "Ahead of the 2017 NHL Expansion Draft" lowercase expansion draft  Done
• "as their top line centre" link
• "primary assists, and three secondary assists" What's primary and secondary mean?

• That was needlessly complicated, I changed it to just assists. Primary = passed to the goal scorer. Secondary = passed to the person who passed to the goal scorer. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "Leading up to the NHL Trade Deadline" link to NHL trade deadline and lowercase  Done
• "Stanley Cup Qualifiers" lowercase Qualifiers?  Done
• "ACL tear" link to ACL tear  Done
• "while tying for third most power-play points" change to "while tying for the third most power-play points"  Done
• "He subsequently became the first Rangers forward to play in consecutive All-Star Games since Wayne Gretzky" This is the first time I saw All-Star mentioned in the article? When was he an all-star before this?  Done
• "Jaromír Jágr in 2005-06" update dash like above  Done
• "met with the Pittsburgh Penguins in the First Round" not sure first round should be capitilized if the other stuff isn't  Done
• "Kreider tied Mark Messier" unlink Mark Messier, it was linked not hat far back in the article.  Done
• "pass Mark Messier" remove Mark, he was mentioned a sentence or two ago.  Done
• "in memory of Rod Gilbert" link Rod Gilbert  Done
• "Madison Square Garden" link  Done
• "On May 16, 2024 Krieder" comma after 2024  Done
• "come from behind" change to "come-from-behind"?  Done
• "On May 16, 2024 Krieder scored a natural hat trick with three consecutive 3rd period goals to lead the Rangers to a come from behind victory in the 2nd round of the 2024 Stanley Cup playoffs and reach the Conference Finals" Can you redo this sentence? I don't think you wrote this since it's after your GA nom date, but the sentence is kind of long and it doesn't follow your earlier style of mentioning what teams they played and stuff.
• "He first represented United States men's national junior ice hockey team" change to "He first represented the United States men's national junior ice hockey team"  Done
• "to help Team USA shutout of Switzerland 3–0" remove of  Done
• "win over Team Latvia" is there a link for the Latvian national team? If so, go ahead and link Switzerland too.  Done
• Link Team Canada  Done
• Link Sweden's team  Done
• "He scored three goals and one assist for four games over eight games" not sure what this is trying to say  Done

  LOL, meant four points not four games. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• "included The Old Man and the Sea" italicize that book  Done
• Reference formatting looks fine. Some of the stuff like The New York Times could probably be linked though.  Done

Spot checks:

• Grenier, Mike (August 3, 2007). "Standout hockey player Chris Kreider leaves Masco for Phillips Andover". The Salem News
  • Looks good.

• "Rangers Recall Forward Chris Kreider from Whale". Our Sports Central. April 17, 2013
  • That source doesn't say "His efforts were recognized by the Rangers coaching staff"
  • Everything else for that ref looks good.

• Rosen, Dan (May 24, 2013). "Kreider earns Tortorella's trust, then seizes chance". National Hockey League
  • Looks good.

• Kreda, Allan (November 11, 2013). "Revitalized Line Boosts Rangers' Offense". The New York Times
  • Looks good.

• Yerdon, Joe (November 11, 2013). "Video: Kreider suspension coming for hit on Upshall? (Update: No)". NBC Sports
  • Looks good.

• Tasch, Justin (September 16, 2017). "Rangers hope Chris Kreider can finally unlock his full potential". New York Daily News
  • Looks good.

• "Blueshirt Breakdown: NYR 1 vs. PHI 0 - 11.01.22". National Hockey League. November 1, 2022
  • Looks good.

• "Pregame Notes: Rangers at Wild". National Hockey League. November 4, 2023
  • Looks good.

• "Kreider healed, expects to return for Rangers after pause". National Hockey League. April 20, 2020
  • Looks good.

• "Summer reading picks from a NY Ranger". CNBC. July 10, 2015
  • Looks good.

• Carpiniello, Rick (March 20, 2018). "Q&A with Chris Kreider: 'Don't Google what 'coughing up blood' means'". The Athletic
  • Looks good.

Amazing research! Great article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]