Talk:Cambodian name
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Origin?
[edit]The origin part for the names seems suspect. If Cambodians only started using family names during the colonial era and many family names were the first name of the grandfather, and Khmer first names back then were mostly monosyllabic, the likelihood they would coincide with Chinese is higher? For example, ខៀវ just means blue/green in Khmer. What is the rationale of connecting it to Chinese/Vietnamese? Should this section even be included without sourcing?
While there are undoubtedly Cambodians with Chinese origin surnames, the coincidence of monosyllabic patronymics in Khmer with Chinese words makes most of the etymology suspect. See for example "Tat"/តាត: this name is attested in Khmer epigraphy in the 17th century as the second syllable of Pang Tat/ប៉ាង តាត, the author of the poem ល្បើកអង្គរ. While it might also be a Chinese surname common among Chinese Cambodians, the similarity is likely coincidental. See also "Duong"/ដួង with Vietnamese Duong, which coincides in spelling only because of transliteration into Latin and are pronounced differently in Khmer and Vietnamese. I have removed this section for now. Please source the etymology before adding not just by linking the name to similar sounding forms in other languages but by tracing the spelling/form of the Khmer name historically when possible. Places to start is to look at epigraphic attestations of names in Old Khmer inscriptions, loanwords from Thai (e.g. កែវ), known historical ties to other naming customs (e.g. the use of Vietnamese naming conventions among the Khmer Krom or Arabic names among the Cham) Kunkanjrong (talk) 00:46, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Hmong?
[edit]This mention seems unneccesary as Hmongs are not one of the tribal groups that resided in Cambodia. Bublumbubu (talk) 04:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Source
[edit]http://books.google.com/books?id=QQn0GNFehA8C&pg=PA51#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 19:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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Biased Policing of Name Etymologies
[edit]Hi All,
I have made the mistake of making a claim about a certain surname (Ros) without a reliable source. I am aware of what I did was wrong. However, I think that this sort of policing should be carried out with all the surnames listed here as this page may give off the wrong idea to all viewers that Cambodian surnames are either from Sanskrit or Chinese. None of these surnames, if any of you noticed, are not sourced. So I ask all editors to please not make any biased editing just because it doesn't fit your narrative. Thank you. --NewEditor, 05/10/2018 9:04 pm (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.126.107 (talk)
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