Talk:B.o.B

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The result of the move request was: Moved to B.o.B. There is no consensus for a move here, which defaults to the last stable state. As BarrelProof pointed out, the last RM failed to gain a consensus for the current title, so reverting to the prior status quo with no prejudice against immediate renomination. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

B.o.B → B.O.B – Technically the "o" in B.o.B should not be lowercase, as all three letters are said in his name and they do not stand for anything. All respective pages with "B.o.B" are also included in this request if approved. JE98 (talk) 03:31, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Move back to B.o.B (rapper) fails WP:TITLE criteria, see BOB dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:10, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Do not move - This is two questions, rolled into one.

First up is "B.o.B" vs. "B.O.B" or any other combination of capitalizations and punctuation. His official website, AllMusic and the majority of the sources use "B.o.B" (the current title). Whether or not the letters stand for anything or not has nothing to do with the capitalization or punctuation used (cf. everything from IBM to t.A.T.u., not I.B.M. and Tatu).

Next up is the parenthetical, "(rapper)". Maybe I'm missing something at WP:TITLE, but my reading seems to indicate that if something is unlikely to be used in the search box to intend a different article, there is no reason for disamb. Yes, there are plenty of articles that someone might be looking for if they search for "Bob" or "bob" and this is one of them. The disamb page handles that. The only possible problem I see is B.O.B (song), a fairly low-charting song. Per WP:SMALLDETAILS, I think the hatnotes and disamb page cover it. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. Since this isn't an initialism/acronym, I defer to MOS:TMRULES, which has no issue with this type of capitalization. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:17, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Would be outright silly to move from a page name that we both know is the correct title, and widely and commonly acknowledged as so, to one we are certain is not.--Yaksar (let's chat) 01:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Revert back to B.o.B. (with a dot after each letter): There was an RM in 2010 that found no consensus to remove the dot after the second 'B' (see Talk:B.o.B/Archive 1#I think this page should be moved), but the article got unilaterally copy-paste moved and histmerged less three weeks later to the name that had just been rejected in the RM. It took me until late 2018 to notice that it happened, but by any proper form of due process, the removal of the dot was not appropriate. The lack of a dot at the end is very contrary to ordinary English formatting, and moreso than the lowercase 'o'. MOS:TM generally prefers styling names as in ordinary English writing conventions. I see from the citations in the article that sources sometimes do include the final dot. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:33, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

B.o.B. → B.o.B – B.o.B (without the final dot) is used by the artist and the vast majority of sources. A scroll through the article's references can confirm this. MTV, The Guardian and CNN all omit the dot, while the (very few) references that don't are relatively informal hip-hop blogs which are more likely to have misspelled (misformatted?) by accident. As WP:TITLETM states: Article titles follow standard English text formatting in the case of trademarks, unless the trademarked spelling is demonstrably the most common usage in sources independent of the owner of the trademark. I believe this article falls neatly into WP:TITLETM's exception. Let me know what you think! Bernat (talk) 15:54, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per our titling guidelines, which direct us to use title formats used by clear majorities of reliable sources.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:26, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. -- Calidum 16:45, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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