Talk:Ainulindalë

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The lead says that Tolkien started writing it in 1919, down in the article it says 1918. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 17:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiswick Chap: The work may have ended up as a chapter in The Silmarillion as published by Christopher Tolkein, but as written by JRR Tolkein it was a separate manuscript. In a letter to Katherine Farrer concerning manuscripts he sent her for review he wrote "I have ventured to include besides the 'Silmarillion' or main chronicle, one or two other connected 'myths': 'The Music of the Ainur', ...". But whatever, I was merely making the title conform to the lead sentence which italicises it. SpinningSpark 10:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, yes, but Tolkien wrote many hundreds of manuscripts; the nearest comparison would be books of short stories, where each one is a separate manuscript and could indeed be a published work, say in a newspaper or magazine, but we treat the stories as un-italicised parts of a book all the same. However, the italics do make sense for Quenya, as I already said in the edit comment, so I pointedly didn't revert you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Ainulindalë/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 14:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:10, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No images to review. The Grey Book citation seems less than ideal, but per this page it's peer-reviewed, even if some of the material is submitted by undergraduates. The author appears to be a physics undergrad in this case. The material quoted is straightforward interpretation; I'm not sure this would survive at FAC, though. Sources are otherwise reliable and Earwig finds nothing but a few backward copied sentences.

• Noted.

• 'Marjorie Burns, who worked on the different versions of the "Ainulindalë"': what does "worked on" mean? I think "studied" would be better if that's the intended meaning.

• Fixed.

• Suggest combining the last two paras to avoid having one-sentence paragraphs.

-- That's everything. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes look good; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]