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It's not even part of the main article - but in the text referring readers to the article on Acharya S. I have edited the real name of "Acharya S." to read "D. Murdock" because she has made it clear she doesn't want her name publicly known. I realise it's a bit late for that as it's already in the public domain - but in the public domain she's largely known as D. Murdock.

Her christian name (if you'll excuse the pun) appears on google only because of this wikipedia page, which isn't even about her. The page actually devoted to her refers to her as D. Murdock. Furthermore - it's not 100% what her christian name really IS - as far as I'm aware, only the intial D. has been released and her name has been pieced together from various clues.

So - in summary: I've made the edit because A) It's consistent with the Acharya S. article and B) It is not clear exactly what the initial "D" actually stands for. --82.32.27.204 18:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am a practitioner of Shambhala Buddhism and note that in this tradition we use the tytle of Acharya to refer to our senior teachers, while I don't know how consistant this use is in other Buddhist traditions, it is definately well placed within our tradition. If anyone can provide further information on what religions besides Hinduism that use the term Acarya I would greatly apreciate that, and work towards the greater connection with the other religions.

Jessica Rasku 21:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where can we add a section for surname "Acharya" ? I would like to add an article for V.S.Acharya, one of the current new MLAs sworn in Karnataka government.

rraghav 12:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any sources to back up the inclusion of Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja as a Hindu acharya? Exactly what sampradaya is he the acharya of? Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 02:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In our village(mostly all over south india) Acharya/Achari is referred with vishwakarma caste so requesting to merge with same article.

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Re: the inclusion of Bhadreshdas Swami in the list of Acharya's, we can refer to the following source:

http://www.newsindiatimes.com/world-sanskrit-conference-recognizes-bhagwan-swaminarayans-akshar-purushottam-darshan-as-distinct-vedanta-tradition/36672

To quote: The significance of Bhadreshdas Swami’s achievement was highlighted by Professor Deven Patel of the University of Pennsylvania. He said, “The World Sanskrit Conference is proud to honor this new and truly historic achievement in the world of Sanskrit philosophical culture. It is the first Sanskrit commentary on the Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras, and the Bhagavad Gita in nearly 200 years and the first commentary on the complete set by a single acharya in over 1200 years. This five-volume commentary, known as the Swaminarayan Bhashyam, interprets the Prasthantrayi through the lens of Bhagwan Swaminarayan’s Akshar-Purushottam Darshan. We are fortunate to have present before us today, in Bhadreshdas Swami, the acharya who, in the tradition of Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, Vallabha, and others, has composed these commentaries.”

Actionjackson09 (talk) 01:59, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is an important addition to the page as there have only been six distinct Hindu philosophy until the 21st century. Bhadreshdas' contribution is notable as the developer of an additional distinct Hindu philosophy in more than 1200 years and certified by the leading philosophical bodies such as the World Sanskrit Conference and Kashi Vidvat Parishad. His credentials as found on his wikipedia page certainly denotes the Acharya status. This in line with WP:Notability and warrants inclusion.

I would however recommend removing the honorific in his name. Tardispower (talk) 01:22, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reason why Bhadresh shouldn't be in the list, cause people are honoring him who doesn't know anything about swaminarayan dharma at all. ActionJackson mentioned Deven Patel from Unviersity of Pennsylvania honored the work of Bhadreshdas, well I happened to reach him out last year about same topic and he mentioned he is no expert on swaminarayan dharma. It is like BAPS got puppets to speak for his work. Below is the link to snapshot of his email. https://ibb.co/cUQ7UJ Sasgmail (talk) 14:33, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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In Section of "In Hinduism"; from the list of Prominent acharyas "Bhadreshdas Swami" name needs to be deleted. It is self-proclaimed acharya in recent year. No body or No organization gave the title of Acharya to "Bhadreshdas Swami". And there is no reference of someone giving Bhadresdash Swami the title of Acharya.

It is misleading to show everyone as Acharya without proper reference or cause. Sanatandharmaway (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sanatandharmaway Sanskrit and religion scholars around the world have accepted the commentary written by Bhadreshdas Swami as the foundation of the philosophy and doctrine of Akshar Purushottam. In reviewing secondary sources, you will find that 'acharya' has not been a self-appointed title. In fact, other scholars have referred to him with that title as his work is in line with acharyas in the past. First, you can review his article on Wikipedia which cites secondary sources regarding his accomplishments WP:Bhadreshdas Swami. Second, if you review the sources, you will see that the scholars have given the title of 'acharya' to Bhadreshdas Swami. For example, in this article: [1], Professor Deven Patel of University of Pennsylvania is quoted saying "“The World Sanskrit Conference is proud to honor this new and truly historic achievement in the world of Sanskrit philosophical culture. It is the first Sanskrit commentary on the Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras, and the Bhagavad Gita in nearly 200 years and the first commentary on the complete set by a single acharya in over 1200 years. This five-volume commentary, known as the Swaminarayan Bhashyam, interprets the Prasthantrayi through the lens of Bhagwan Swaminarayan’s Akshar-Purushottam Darshan. We are fortunate to have present before us today, in Bhadreshdas Swami, the acharya who, in the tradition of Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, Vallabha, and others, has composed these commentaries.” Additionally, in this article ([2]), Bhadreshdas Swami is “Acclaimed by all scholars, respected Mahamahopadyaya Sadhu Bhadreshdas is an acharya and a contemporary commentator in the lineage of commentators on the Prasthanatrayi.” I hope this clears up any confusion.Apollo1203 (talk) 17:25, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sanatandharmaway, thank you for identifying this missing information. I added a reference which verifies this information. Moksha88 (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The WP:RS\reliable source linked in the article substantiates the inclusion. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Want to add a citation for paragraph Hinduism as https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/ethical-issues-in-education-676348 Bhardwazvinod (talk) 10:38, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not doneUnfortunately, the source you point to is not a reliable source. --regentspark (comment) 12

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Hello sir' Myself shubham i want you to remove the name of bhadresh das from the list of acharya because he is an litrature acharya and the respected acharya mentioned before him are sect acharya i.e they have established diffrent sect in vaishnav sampraday where as this bhadresh acharya is simple a learned scholar and there are many like him at present. Those aacharyas are eneumerously great the are considered incarnations and exhibitted great spiritual potency whereas this bhadreshdas is simple person like other scholars. The only reason for telling this is because it hurts the followers of these great acharyas to see a scholar acharya sitting in there place. As acharya standa for scholar and a an incarnated interpritation also.

Please! Please! Improve this article and let the true knowledge flow through all.

Shubham A school teacher Shubham1333 (talk) 07:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please ! Take in consideration Shubham1333 (talk) 07:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You would need to show that the currently cited source is not reliable enough. Wikipedia isn't censored so something being hurtful the certain followers is not a reason for not including things. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:45, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bhadreshdas swami is not a adi acharya Kaushik rajput 442 (talk) 12:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This source from the article verifies Bhadreshdas Swami as an acharya,

"Bhadreshdas is the seventh Acharya in the darshanic tradition of Hinduism joining the ranks of Adi Sankaracharya, Ramanujacharya, Madhvacharya, Vallabhacharya after having written the Akshar-Purushottam Darshan, the spokesperson added."

Moksha88 (talk) 23:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There must a need of one edit in this {acharya.wiki} template. Above mentioned acharyas in hinduism are believed great scholars of divine Hinduism by Hindus except last one the Bhadreshdas swami. So it must needful to remove his name in this list. It is misleading people and world. Even not any single hindu believes bhadreshdas swami as acharya. I request wikipedia to do this change as early as possible. Rahulpatel.10 (talk) 12:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This source from the article verifies Bhadreshdas Swami as an acharya,

"Bhadreshdas is the seventh Acharya in the darshanic tradition of Hinduism joining the ranks of Adi Sankaracharya, Ramanujacharya, Madhvacharya, Vallabhacharya after having written the Akshar-Purushottam Darshan, the spokesperson added."

And here's why,

Bhadreshdas Swami has written a commentary on the Prasthantrayi according to principles of Bhagwan Swaminarayan, the Akshar-Purushottam Darshan, the press release said. This is not only the first novel bhashya written after 150 years following Baldev Vidyabhushan, but, after Shankaracharya’s bhashya, this is the first time in 1,200 years that a bhashya has been written by one author on all three texts of the Prasthantrayi, the press release said.

Moksha88 (talk) 23:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are various Acharya comunity in India, Bangladesh, Nepal. Non brahmin Acharya of Uttar Pradesh, Nepali brahmin Acharya, Bengali Acharya of west Bengal, Tripura and Bangladesh. Even in south India there are many acharya comunity people. You should add this in 'Acharya' page. Anotherwikiwizard7 (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sayanacharya of south India, a famous mathematician. Sridharacharya of west Bengal, a famous mathematician who derived the Quadratic formula. Anotherwikiwizard7 (talk) 20:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at NPOV page and the sockpuppet investigation. This page has been manipulated by a group of users to represent the beliefs of one branch in a faith the consists of several. It looks like the change I am undoing has been called out by atleast 4 other users on this talk page. My reasoning for undoing sock changes here is different then ones raised in the past by those users. All the other listed names are 400 years or older. They are fundamental to all Hinduism. This is a clear POV push to represent a Baps person with the likes of a list of people who are all over centuries past life and hold more prominence in traditional Hinduism. The intent of this list is to list "prominent" Acharyas/leaders in Hinduism as the title states. Not to list all of them but some examples. Swaminarayan has several branches and across them have several dozen claimers of "acharya" so to put one such person from one branch seems like its overemphasizing. Feel free to tag me if I am missing something and more discussion needs to be had. Kbhatt22 (talk) 02:36, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adi requested for page of acharya — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.34.82.96 (talk) 12:20, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which individuals should be on the list of notable Acharyas? Are there any specific criteria? The list currently includes the names of acharyas, who are Indian philosophers from either the Shankara or Vaishnav traditions. These acharyas have made significant contributions to the development of new philosophies, or darshans.

If "Sandipani" is considered an acharya, then acharyas like Garg, Vishvamitra, and Vashistha should also fall under this category.

The name Bhaskaracharya appears in the lead section. In this case, it is necessary to take into account the contributions of Shushrut, Charaka, Arayabhatt, Kanad, Panini, Varahamihira, Patanjali, Kautilya, and numerous others during that time period. Buddingboffin (talk) 23:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence "An acharya is a highly learned person with a title affixed to the names of learned subject" in the intro makes no sense. The citation points to a dictionary entry that says "Guide or instructor in religious matters, especially one who invests the student with the sacrificial thread and instructs him in the Vedas, in the law of sacrifice and the mysteries of religion; priest; founder, or leader of a sect; a learned paṇḍit; a title affixed to the names of learned men."

So āćārya can refer to the person, or it can also be a title for that person.

The correction I suggest is to replace the sentence with "An acharya is a highly learned person, and acharya is also a title affixed to the name of such a person" or similar Mgrinnell (talk) 12:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"An acharya is a highly learned person with a title affixed to the names of learned subject."

I completely agree that the sentence does not make any sense.

However, I respectfully disagree with the suggestion made: "An acharya is a highly learned person, and acharya is also a title affixed to the name of such a person," as there is no mention of a teacher, guide, or instructor.

The Hindu religion has historically reserved the word "acharya" for instructors or teachers, a practice that continues to this day.

I prefer to use the following sentence: "An acharya is a title given, or a term used for, an exceptionally knowledgeable person who imparts instruction or education to students." It includes aspects such as title, knowledge, and the teacher's role as described in the dictionary meaning.

The dictionary definition states, "A guide or instructor of Vedas or religion, or an individual who performs a student's upanaya sanskaram (sacrificial thread)."

For instance, the names cited in the article's list of acharyas are highly learned, a point I wholeheartedly agree with, but they were all instructors or teachers. Buddingboffin (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that, your version is an improvement, I would make just one small correction. You start with "An acharya is a title given...", which sounds like 'acharya' is a synonym for title. Better would be "Acharya is a title given to, or a term used for, an exceptionally knowledgeable person who imparts instruction or education to students." Mgrinnell (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):

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An acharya is a highly learned person with a title affixed to the names of learned subject

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Acharya is a title given to, or a term used for, an exceptionally knowledgeable person who imparts instruction or education to students

• Why it should be changed:

The original sentence makes no sense.

For the discussion, see Talk:Acharya#Correct_a_sentence,_according_to_its_citation

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Mgrinnell (talk) 00:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• You're right that the text was nonsensical. I've modified the text per the sources. RegentsPark (comment) 18:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done M.Bitton (talk) 17:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]