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In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fang_Xi, the name of the character is read as Fang La, not Fang Xi. The characters were written as 方臘 in the old days, not 方腊. Please refer to the screenshot I took from an electronic edition of Siku Quanshu at http://dic.timluo.net/fanla.jpg. The whole article should revert to the old heading of Fan_La instead.

Timluo (talk) 05:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We'll look into that. Thanks for pointing out. Lonelydarksky (talk) 01:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've cross-checked with some Chinese websites on the history of the Song Dynasty. The name is indeed pronounced as "Fang La", not "Fang Xi". Sorry I took such a long time because I haven't visited this page until recently. Lonelydarksky (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We cann't believe today's electronic edition. Please provide an photo of book (shuihu zhuan or songshi) published befor the born of sim. chinese.--刻意(Kèyì) 18:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's your job to do that, since you're the one who moved the page. I'm afraid that you'll have to move it back unless you can find a supporting source to prove that the name is "Fang Xi" and not "Fang La". _LDS (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just returned to this entry earlier and found the title has finally changed to the right one. Great job done! Just as a side note to 刻意, the electronic version of Siku Quanshu tries to retain the text of the original copy. This means all the characters are shown as exactly they were written in the original text. All the numbers of lines and characters in each line are shown as is. Besides as I am from Taiwan, I know quite well if a certain character is simplified or not through the help of various references. Timluo (talk) 07:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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今天去图书馆查了查，发现读方xi应该是错的，正确的写法确实是方臘而不是方腊，这样毫无疑问应该念方la。

1.某版本《中国历史》中收录的《折可存墓志铭》照片上面写的是方臘。我照相技术差，反光变白了，网上暂时没有搜到相片。 2.中华书局1975年版《宋史·佞幸》卷四百七十“睦寇方臘起，黼方文太平。”有人可能说现代书籍不足为凭，浙江古籍出版社白衲本影印本宋史同样也是作方臘。--刻意(Kèyì) 08:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

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Ikip 02:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This project doesn't cover any articles on biographies of living people at the moment. Almost all the articles are about fictional characters or people who were alive centuries ago. _LDS (talk) 04:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems there are too many short articles on the heroes. I suggest merging the ones that are very closely related together like this:

• Lü Fang and Guo Sheng
• Cai Fu and Cai Qing
• Zhang Qing and Sun Erniang
• Chen Da and Yang Chun

etc. However, Wang Ying and Hu Sanniang may not be a good idea as the two have very different backgrounds. Mu Hong and Mu Chun may also not work too well because of the rank difference between the two. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See here. Chensiyuan (another member of this project) and I have made our stands clear in that discussion. Please don't start another protracted debate on this issue. I'm sick and tired of engaging in such melodramatic quarrels. LDS _{contact me} 14:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I wasn't aware that it existed. I'll take a look at that. Kayau (talk · contribs) 14:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Characters who die have a section called "Campaigns and Death" which is linked right AT THE TOP of the article. If someone's just trying to refresh their memory about a character's background they instantly have the story spoiled for them when they click the article. There's no reason for the "and Death" in the title. That section should just be "Campaigns" like it is for all the surviving characters. If a person reads too far into the article, well, then it's their own fault for spoiling it. But as it is, these articles unfairly spoil the story without warning.

I'll go through and delete "and Death" from those titles unless someone can give a good reason why it should be there. Their deaths will still be described in that section, just not in the title for the section. Gatero (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the introduction of characters in the Water Margin can be more specific. There are some well-known and important plots that can be edited out for more people to understand effectively. ELizaluu (talk) 00:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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