Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2018/Electoral Commission

Ritchie333 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

I was on the electoral commission last year, and as I said then "it's a dull job, but somebody has to do it". Last year, my main responsibility was producing an accurate list of voters for the election, sending it over to the WMF and nagging them about getting the SecurePoll set up. I was not favourable about the mass messaging, so I procrastinated over it which caused problems elsewhere; if this time around somebody else wants to take the lead on that, I'll work with them with the list of names. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Not really a comment, but if you were elected, would you support filing a phabricator ticket to send the mass message out server side? I'm already supporting you, but asking this question so we can avoid some of the issues we had last year. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi @TonyBallioni: I actually sent the message last year and don't recall there being any actual problem with the "sending" of the mass message? The problem I recall was generating the list of message targets (a subset of the eligible voters that met certain criteria). The sending used the MassMessage extension, so it was already occurring server side — xaosflux ^Talk 23:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi, xaosflux, I had a discussion with Legoktm earlier about this and I think he was saying that if it was put in phab there would be an easier way to deal with it. As usual with these sort of things, I’m sure I’m expressing it imperfectly, so apologies for that. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  @TonyBallioni: no worries, I think the "message list creation" was the big mess, and being able to have that made by a developer with database access certainly could be a way to improve it, and phab would be the way to track such a request. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  FYI for anyone wondering what this is all about, see Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2017/Coordination#Mass_message. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:23, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Server side massmessage ignores 'opt-out' category. That wouldn't be desirable imo. — regards, Revi 04:43, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• My unwillingness to support Ritchie333's candidacy should not be misconstrued as a negative assessment of his work as an administrator. I trust his judgment completely and have no problems with him serving again. It's just that I'd prefer to give other editors a chance to be on the electoral commission. Kurtis ^(talk) 15:27, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. Tazerdadog (talk) 17:43, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
2. (edit conflict) wumbolo ^^^ 18:59, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
3. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
4. - SchroCat (talk) 19:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
5. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
6. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
7. Experienced admin whose judgement can be trusted upon. DBigXrayᗙ 21:49, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
8. stwalkerster (talk) 22:08, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
9. scope_creep (talk) 23:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
10. We had pleasant and efficient interactions for a brief while we both were in the electoral commission last year.--Ymblanter (talk) 00:46, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
11. -^Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 02:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
12. - Kpgjhpjm 02:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
13. Anarchyte (talk | work) 03:32, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
14. Vanamonde (talk) 04:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
15. Stormy clouds (talk) 04:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
16. 1.02 editor (C651 set 217/218) 06:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
17. Flooded with them hundreds 06:34, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
18. /wiae /tlk 11:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
19. –Davey2010^Talk 12:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
20. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
21. Lourdes 17:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
22. Neovu79 (talk) 19:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
23. --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
24. eminently sensible Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
25. Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:14, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
26. An easy decision for me to support this candidate. Strikerforce^Talk 03:45, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
27. Mz7 (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
28. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
29. Johnbod (talk) 14:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
30. Fish+Karate 14:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
31. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
32. Experienced Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:49, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
33. FASTILY 05:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
34. Reyk _YO! 16:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
35. Csgir
36. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 02:04, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
37. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 14:29, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
38. Fred (talk) 21:59, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
39.  Nova Crystallis (Talk) 00:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
40. – Joe (talk) 09:45, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
41. Clueful, respectful and not a ful. Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
42. ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 00:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberpower678 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

Hi everyone. Those of you who know me, know that I contribute to the technical process and side of Wikipedia. Most of my growth on Wikipedia was by being hands on in the areas I've worked in. As such, in continuing my growth on Wikipedia, I'm throwing my hat in the ring to serve as an Electoral Commissioner. I already satisfy the conditions for access to non-public data.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:41, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. SQL^{Query me!} 19:53, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
2. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
3. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:51, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
4. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
5. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
6. Tazerdadog (talk) 00:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
7. power~enwiki (π, ν) 00:46, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
8. --Ymblanter (talk) 00:46, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
9. Vanamonde (talk) 04:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
10. Flooded with them hundreds 06:34, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
11. More than happy with him to do the technical stuff Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
12. — Maile (talk) 11:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
13. –Davey2010^Talk 12:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
14. ^Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 15:46, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
15. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
16. Lourdes 17:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
17. --Joshualouie711^talk 21:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
18. Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:14, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
19. Mz7 (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
20. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
21. Could be helpful if any more cases or reviews with bot-related editing arise Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
22. Fish+Karate 14:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
23. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:06, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
24. - Kpgjhpjm 04:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
25. FASTILY 05:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
26. Technical proficiency and a willingness to tackle mundane tasks. I've long been impressed with Cyberpower678's growth as an editor, and if this is what he wants to do next, then he has my full support. Kurtis ^(talk) 15:06, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
27. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
28. -- FitIndia ^Talk 08:45, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
29. Widr (talk) 09:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
30. Yintan  10:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
31. Natureium (talk) 00:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
32.  Nova Crystallis (Talk) 00:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
33. – Joe (talk) 09:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
34. feminist (talk) 05:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
35. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 00:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
36. ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 00:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KTC (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

I'm happy to put myself forward to assist with the running of this year ArbCom election. While I have not served on the commission previously, I have obvious transferable experience as Chair of the Foundation's standing elections committee, and before that the 2008, 2013, and 2015 Foundation's elections committee. I already satisfy the requirements of the access to nonpublic information policy. KTC (talk) 21:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Just as a comment: I do the only vote 3 method, because I think voting for more somewhat defeats the point of getting the three people I think best qualified on the commission (yes, techinically this is consensus, but it's almost always closed by "numeric consensus").
  I haven't interacted much with KTC, but they have of all the candidates the absolute most experience with election on Wikimedia sites. That is an asset that we could use on the commission and I don't think we should turn it away. SQL I think is by far the most qualified as a technical member here, but the advantage of KTC is that they bring a wide range of experience with how our movement conducts elections. That is a positive that none of the other candidates, all of whom I like, have. Having them on the commission would be invaluable, and I encourage more en.wiki users who are less familiar with them to endorse this candidacy. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:40, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:22, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
2. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
3. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
4. stwalkerster (talk) 22:08, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
5. Tazerdadog (talk) 00:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
6. --Ymblanter (talk) 00:47, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
7. ^Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 02:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
8. Vanamonde (talk) 14:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
9. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
10. Lourdes 17:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
11. Brings a lot of valuable experience. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 06:01, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
12. She has volunteered for this position before but not been chosen. And I think that's too bad, because she has a lot of experience with elections, even if it is more global than local. --Rschen7754 06:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
13. Mz7 (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
14. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
15. scope_creep (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
16. Fish+Karate 14:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
17. Johnbod (talk) 14:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
18. wumbolo ^^^ 22:03, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
19. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
20. Had been considering supporting for same reasons as TonyBallioni stated above; his comment pushed me over. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:49, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
21. - Per Tony . Kpgjhpjm 04:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
22. FASTILY 05:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
23. I'm surprised that KTC is receiving less support than other candidates. She has the experience necessary to do the job well. Kurtis ^(talk) 14:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
24. SQL^{Query me!} 17:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
25. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:32, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
26. -- FitIndia ^Talk 08:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
27. Widr (talk) 09:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
28. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 14:31, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
29. - TNT ^💖 23:38, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
30. Natureium (talk) 00:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
31. I'm going to add my support to KTC alone, not because I think any of the others endorsed are unqualified, indeed they are each excellent candidates in their own way, I'm just aware of how much experience in Wikimedia elections KTC brings to the table, and believe she is best suited to this role. Worm^TT(talk) 07:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
32. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
33. I've been thinking again, and I'm adding support here in line with WTT's comments. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
34. – Joe (talk) 09:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
35. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 13:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
36. Daask (talk) 19:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
37. Like how SQL is a technical expert, having an "election expert" like KTC is beneficial I feel. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:42, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
38. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 00:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
39. Aswith the others supporting, I think it is important to have someone with this experience, which will add another aspect of background. DGG ( talk ) 01:13, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
40. ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 00:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SQL (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

I'd like to volunteer to serve on the Electoral Commission. I've got a lot of experience manipulating data, such as making lists of voters, and experience with phabricator. SQL^{Query me!} 21:38, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. SQL would honestly be one of the best choices for this (full disclosure, I encouraged him to run), because he gets the technical aspects of database queries and the API, and would be very useful working with the WMF to get the list right this year. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
2. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
3. stwalkerster (talk) 22:08, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
4. --Ymblanter (talk) 00:47, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
5. Tazerdadog (talk) 00:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
6. ^Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 02:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
7. Particularly likely to get the mass message sent out. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 03:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
8. Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:40, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
9. Flooded with them hundreds 06:34, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
10. –Davey2010^Talk 12:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
11. I'll try to marginally boost the candidacy of SQL by only supporting him. I think he is best suited to deal with the mass messaging, which has been a bit of a mess the last couple of years. Everyone else with a chance of being chosen is competent and non-crazy, so it doesn't matter too much to me who serves with him, I'd be happy with any/all of them. But I'd definitely like to see SQL on the commission. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
12. Per Floq. Carrite (talk) 14:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
13. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:34, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
14. Vanamonde (talk) 14:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
15. - TNT ^💖 16:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
16. Lourdes 17:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
17. --Joshualouie711^talk 21:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
18. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:14, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
19. Mz7 (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
20. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
21. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:35, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
22. - How could we not want someone with a name like SQL? Seriously, same as Floquenbeam, above, and happy with any two from the other three. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:58, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Just adding I've now supported one other too, but I'd still be happy with whoever is selected. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

23. - Stormy clouds (talk) 09:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
24. Fish+Karate 14:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
25. Johnbod (talk) 14:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
26. Natureium (talk) 14:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
27. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 15:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
28. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 18:26, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
29. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
30. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
31. Per technical skills. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:49, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
32. - Kpgjhpjm 04:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
33. FASTILY 05:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
34. One of the most technically savvy editors I know of, with over a decade of experience behind him. Kurtis ^(talk) 14:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
35. MBlaze Lightning 15:12, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
36. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:32, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
37. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 02:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
38. -- FitIndia ^Talk 08:47, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
39. Widr (talk) 09:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
40. Yintan  10:16, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
41. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 14:30, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
42.  Nova Crystallis (Talk) 00:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
43. – Joe (talk) 09:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
44. feminist (talk) 05:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
45. - Clearly technically adept enough to help with the concerns some have raised with the notification process Nosebagbear (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
46. ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 00:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sachinthonakkara (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

<Elections are good for a non profit organisation like wikimedia foundation and being a moderator for such a process, is a great opportunity for volunteers to understand the functioning of wikimedia sites.> Sachinthonakkara 00:29, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

216 edits, frankly, is not a big enough body of work to demonstrate the trust this position requires. Tazerdadog (talk) 00:47, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the candidate is serious about this. 50 odd mainspace edits only, even rollback needs more edits than that why even try for this? 1.02 editor (C651 set 217/218) 06:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for your offer to serve. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• I think Sachinthonakkara was following in good faith and boldness the invitation to nominate himself which was posted on the Watchlist. I respect people who act boldly and with good intentions, so I echo TonyBallioni's thanks for stepping forward. @Sachinthonakkara - as others have pointed out, we need users with considerable experience for this role; however, your willingness to help out has been noted. Thanks. SilkTork (talk) 09:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I echo SilkTork's comments--we need new user who will be interested in processes like this; I encourage him to persist in gaining experience here. DGG ( talk ) 01:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]