Talk:Irritable bowel syndrome

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	Irritable bowel syndrome was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 January 2024 and 14 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Charlottebaker1 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: SidaChu, Portiapliam, Cab1234567.

— Assignment last updated by Nicoleschully (talk) 19:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in adding more details to the page about the relationship between IBS and sleep irregularity. The current body of research establishes a correlative but not causal relationship between the two, specifically linking a higher frequency of sleep disorders, as well as higher rates of sleep disruption, to an IBS diagnosis. Moreover, much of the research hypothesizes the role of stress in this relationship, specifically emphasizing the role of the autonomic nervous system. I found a meta-analysis that found an significantly decreased ANS dysregulation and decreased GI symptoms following psychotherapeutic intervention (which raised some questions for me about the current section on psychotherapeutic interventions) https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/16/3447

I would appreciate input on where would be the best place to add this information onto the current page. I also think it is important to stress the psychological factors underlying sleep irregularity and its relationship to IBS. I was thinking of adding a few sentences to the signs and symptoms section, or maybe to the section on stress? Charlottebaker1 (talk) 19:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a completely outdated view on IBS. In the last 2 decades research in the field of gastroenterology has found that psychological factors are far less relevant than previously thought. You may want to familiarize yourself with the current scientific non-psychological literature that actually looks into the organic causes of this condition before making any further changes to the article. 84.148.214.29 (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned that some of the recent rephrasing to the article actually changes meaning, particularly in regard to making more nuanced statements overly categorical. I've addressed some of these but this edit makes more substantial alterations that I haven't addressed. Mutt Lunker (talk) 09:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I posted on your talk page before seeings this. Please note that removing constant mentioning of study types is according to WikiProject Medicine guidelines. It does not add any extra information (we should use secondary sources anyway and the paper's title in the reference will tell the reader what kind of study it is). More importantly it makes Wikipedia articles less accessible and written more like an academic paper. The average reader does not know and does not have to know what a meta analysis means and Wikipedia is written with a general audience in mind. I believe most of my edits served the purpose of making the article more easy to read for a wider audience without sacrificing any information about the condition.

Best wishes, Adam Harangozó (talk) 09:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments about mentioning of study types have nothing to do with what I comment on above. Again, I believe your rephrasings did represent a change in meaning and made some statements more emphatic than is warranted. Readers will not appreciate what is being said if you sacrifice accuracy for easier, but less correct, phrasing. You can always link potentially unfamiliar terminology. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irritable bowel syndrome is one of the most viewed pages on the medical side of wikipedia. It's a common disorder with tons of research. All of this leads me to believe that it should be at GA status. But just at first glance there is a lot of issues with the article. A lot of the referances are out of date, some sections are too long while others are unreferanced. Anyways if anyone is interested in helping me fix up this article please reply to this. You don't need to know anything about the GA process. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 12:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does GA status mean? 84.148.214.29 (talk) 03:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GA or Wikipedia:Good articles. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. This will be a lot of work considering all the issues with the article and maybe not without conflict because of the personal biases some editors might have. 84.148.214.29 (talk) 03:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was honestly planning on just getting rid of most of the current information and mostly using up to date guidlines for sources. I started to remove the low qaulity sources/ out of date sources on this page User:IntentionallyDense/Irritable bowel syndrome (feel free to edit that page however as it is a userpage and doesn't get displayed on google search) but gave up when I realized just how much work there was to be done. On the plus side there is quite a bit of newer high qaulity research on the topic. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look. 84.148.214.29 (talk) 05:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As both IBS and IBD are things, is this actually a mistake or is IBD the intention here? Mutt Lunker (talk) 09:42, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a doctor but I think it was indeed a mistake. Now it is corrected. Here is the source [1] which talks about post-infectious irritable bowel syndrome and not Inflammatory bowel disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moribundum (talk • contribs) 10:24, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't help that these abbreviations are only 1 letter apart, and the letters D and S are located next to each other on the keyboard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moribundum (talk • contribs) 16:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]