User talk:IIIraute

This is IIIraute's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed

Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 31 days

Hello, IIIraute. You have new messages at Corvoe's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Just to let you know that the nationalist vandal has returned to Template:List of Great powers by date after a few months' absence. Argovian (talk) 14:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message. I'll keep an eye on it. --IIIraute (talk) 22:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

no source on this page is reliable, it is all advertising as indicated by the wikipedia box at the top of the page, and the fact that each citation just links to quotes from the owners and other financially interested parties. critical information about the website exists in many forms - one of my sources was the independent, a british newspaper - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/asmallworld-nestl-heir-patrick-liotardvogt-a-jetrosexual-website-and-a-3m-dispute-9084223.html - what makes this less reliable than any other source cited?

Faceplant2020, I can and will help you to write a "controversies" section - but not with the current sources you have provided, as they are not suitable per WP:RS, and I think we can do better (the "The Independent" source is ok) - also, please stop your edit warring. No hard feelings! --IIIraute (talk) 04:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IIIraute Sure, help me write it. No hard feeling, but I don't understand why you keep adding the fluff about the celebrities - which is linked to citation from a blog, and that doesn't mention any of the type of members listed on the wikipedia. I will keep deleting it because that is just advertising and has no cited basis from any source. Also the member card is linked to an advertising video, and the card is not claimed in that video to grant access to anything specific so it will be deleted. Please let me know what source you need to show that they promised all members a vacation (that was linked to a CNBC source which is actually cited elsewhere in the site, but that you left up. The fact that the hotel will not be full open until 2015 is cited across the internet, I don't know why the government website of the nation of St. Kitts is not acceptable, or travelocity, how else can you prove a hotel is not open? I will restore my change and you should feel free to edit them NOT DELETE them, to a manner you feel is consistent with wikipedia citing, please look at the the actual citations throughout that page. I think that in general they are not linking to any non-neutral independent sources, just to asmallworld company officials PR teams. I am curious to see what changes you will make. No hard feelings. Thanks! --Faceplant2020 (talk) 31 March 2014 (UTC)

IIIraute - I think most of the changes you just made are fine, I will let you know for a fact that there is no complimentary car service and the world's finest clubs membership now costs and additional $200. I have emails from asmallworld confirming these facts, how does one cite to emails from the company? Also, if you state that asmallworld complaints need citations, but complaint websites aren't good sources, what are? Just looking to do this in a professional way, thanks! (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Mostlyoksorta, you can not use emails from the company as a source. Please hava a look at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Keep in touch! --IIIraute (talk) 00:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whaddya think of the IP address spamming this page for asmallworld? As the nice neutral one maybe you can help clean it up? I think I'm worn out of battling about a stupid webpage :) (Mostlyoksorta (talk) 22:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited ASmallWorld, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Vogue (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 08:55, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, if you want to discuss my wiki skills. Maybe take it to mine or your talk page, not one that doesn't relate to the film. I made two edits to the country listing because I thought the reason why I edited them was misunderstood. It wasn't, I took it to a talk page. Cheers. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I don't seem to be explaining the point - references are not needed - the issue was that

• a. the lead section now says TWICE that the company is owned by DB
• b. the status of Freighliner is not directly relevant (to an article about EWS), and should not be in the lead section of this article.

Prof.Haddock, thank you for your message: The first sentence in the lead section should describe what DB Schenker Rail (UK) is, i.e. "the largest UK rail freight operator" that is "a wholly owned subsidiary of the German Deutsche Bahn AG", followed by headquaters, location, etc; because that's exactly what "DB Schenker UK" is.

I have provided the second reference, because there DB Schenker UK (as a legal entity) describe themselves to the House of Commons as to who they are, with the words "DB Schenker is the largest UK rail freight operator ... DB Schenker is wholly owned by Deutsche Bahn AG ..."

The next two paragraphs of the lead give a short introduction, i.e. the history of the company.

That's the reason why DB is mentioned twice: once for being the parent - and later on to describe how it happened. It is even less necessary to mention twice that the company once was called "EWS". Ergo, according to your argument we would also have to delete the EWS sentence from the first paragraph.

The Freightliner content was already there - I only gave it a rewrite. Personally, I think that info is useful, but I don't mind if you want to have it removed. --IIIraute (talk) 02:12, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prof.Haddock, I have changed the first paragraph:

DB Schenker Rail (UK) is the British rail branch of DB Schenker - it is the largest UK rail freight operator, and a wholly owned subsidiary of the German Deutsche Bahn AG.^[1][2] Headquartered in Doncaster, England, before 2009 the company was known as English, Welsh and Scottish Railway (EWS).

--IIIraute (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ok, thank you and sorry for the trouble - I don't think the Freightliner info is relavent to the lead, but instead of deleting I've made it a note. Moved the "wholly owned" reference to the infobox (note I think this was already referenced in the history section.) Prof.Haddock (talk) 14:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if I was rude to you yesterday. --Kutsuit (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No hard feelings! --IIIraute (talk) 07:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]