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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Persian mythology, would you maybe be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't have time to participate in that. — Diannaa (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries Kowal2701 (talk) 16:01, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thought you might want to be made aware of this personal attack. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I of course saw that, and am giving it all the attention it deserves — Diannaa (talk) 20:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just saw the copyright deletion, and it was probably necessary. Just a few of questions and notes:

  • Would it make the content OK to write if I extensively paraphrase it (as much as I can)?
  • Can I view the old writing again to fix and paraphrase it?
  • I believe you also deleted some content cited from Anadolu Agency and the Brussels Times. I'm quite sure they weren't violating copyright, considering that content from those news agencies has already been used on Wikipedia multiple times. (I just thought something might have already proven a permission for usage from them, because they were used on several pages.)
  • In case the content from Anadolu Agency and Brussels Times is actually copyrighted and we have no permission to use them, some content from some other pages might also have to be removed, probably more in relation to Turkey and Belgium.
  • What portion of the source https://jabara.istopthearmstrade.eu/ would be small enough to copy? Maybe an estimate?

Viral weirdo (talk) 23:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • All content you add to Wikipedia needs to be written in your own words.
  • I removed the whole paragraph because almost all of it was copied from https://jabara.istopthearmstrade.eu/. The only parts not from that source were the two sentences "Belgium was arguably the main exporter" and "Investigations proved this to be false." I had to remove that content, because those two sentences when put together convey the opposite meaning of what you were trying to convey. I did not check to see if they were copied from your sources.
  • You shouldn't copy any portion of your source documents into Wikipedia. Everything you add here needs to be written in your own words please. Summarize, don't paraphrase. — Diannaa (talk) 11:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cost And Management Accountant (India)

Hello Dianaa,

I was interested in adding the latest data and curriculum pattern of CMA. Yes, it's a course so mostly the data was similar/same to college prospectus.

If you think its copied, then I can write in my own word because the whole content seems incomplete. Avik Ian (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of it was copied from this prospectus. Regardless, Wikipedia is not the place to give people such overly-detailed information about the eligibility requirements and curriculum. — Diannaa (talk) 03:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
okay, got it. Thank you, will take care of such overly detailed content in future. Avik Ian (talk) 10:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you check page Bioregion?

HI Diannaa,

Would you be able to check and review the revision history of the Bioregion wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioregion

There is a user Karl BB who has made a lot of very specific changes and edits, including removing large chunks of what had been added. He's deleted a lot of cited material and is not maintaining a neutral view: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view

In addition, he seems to be gatekeeping the article, and monitoring for any new additions or changes.

He's the director for one planet, https://www.oneearth.org/contributor/karl-burkart/ Karl Burkart https://www.oneearth.org/what-is-a-bioregion/ which is promoting a very specific definition of bioregion, which excludes a lot of other definitions.

Otherwise - I can go back and just try to review and add back in what I think could also still be included, and which was cited and sourced.

Your opinion about best way to move forward is appreciated.

User:KarlBB CascadiaWikimedian (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I don't have time to help with this. I am busy working on copyright cleanup as well as real-life things. Perhaps there's interested people at one of the wikiprojects listed on the article talk page that might be able to help you?. — Diannaa (talk) 22:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You should also have a look at the material already on the talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 22:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Will do. CascadiaWikimedian (talk) 03:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Between the article Alice White and the Hollywood Walk of Fame Alice White blurb.
I ran Earwig's copyvio tool and got a 68% chance of violations between the two.
Now, the problem is that I can't figure out when the Walk of Fame's content was written. I thought the Alice White Wikipedia article content dated back to at least April of 2010 but it's actually older, September of 2004. I didn't want to slap a copyvio template on the Wikipedia article when it appears that the Walk of Fame is the one that actually copied - as, of course they can - but what about some attribution to WP... Anyway, am asking you to please take a look and see if you can suss out which text was written when. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shearonink. That's a very good question. Steps you can take include checking how far back the Wayback Machine has an archived copy. In this case the oldest archived version is dated Feb 18, 2014. At which point we already had this content. Your suspicion that they copied from us is supported by the fact they are using the photo we had in the info box at that time, and the remainder is pretty much identical as well. Digging back in the history, I see that the article was created by Rossrs, who was a good guy and a FA-level contributor. The odds that he copied that material from elsewhere are vanishingly small, so I would say we are in the clear from a copyright point of view. Something you can do: add a Template:Backwards copy to the article talk page to alert others about it. Thanks — Diannaa (talk) 15:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Just placed that Template on the article talk. Shearonink (talk) 18:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! There are snippets of copied content throughout the flagged section. Please remove or re-write. It's okay to leave in the quotations.

I've gone to some trouble to eliminate in the CPI article the exact wording used in the NYer article. Is there anyway you can narrow down what needs to be eliminated as a copyright violation? --Louis P. Boog (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can view the overlap using Earwig's tool. — Diannaa (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
please check copyvios.toolforge and rewrite --Louis P. Boog (talk) 02:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will look tomorrow. Thanks for quickly taking care of this. — Diannaa (talk) 02:42, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi You removed my edit from the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority page referring to board and committees, for copyright infringement, the descriptions of the functions of the LCRCA committees and boards are public information https://liverpoolcityregion-ca.moderngov.co.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=67945 from this PDF, under pursuant to the British Government's OGL 3.0 and information stated by the combined authority in the Privacy Policy the information can be copied for non commercial informative use, while i acknowledge that is should have stated something along the lines of "according to the combined authority:" I simply forgot to add this due to the time I made this edit. I do not believe it would infringe on the Open Government Licence v3 copyright standards if I would add the source as a reference., all the best Knowledgework69 (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also just a quick note, the description's are taken directly from the an amendment to the Liverpool City Region constitution (a public document) therefore I would argue it would be improper to paraphrase verses from the constitution. Knowledgework69 (talk) 17:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Knowledgework69. I don't see any evidence that the documents are released under the Open Government License. If they were, it would say so somewhere on the document, or failing that, somewhere on their website. I did check the Liverpool City Region website and it is marked as copyright. Publicly available documents are not always in the public domain. It's not the same thing. — Diannaa (talk) 17:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi no worries if I can direct you to this page https://www.liverpoolcityregion-ca.gov.uk/privacy-policy in which under copyright policy it states "All content is available under the Open Government Licence, except where otherwise stated" also due to its nature of being a public record pertaining to governance it does not fall under the exemptions of OGL outlined in https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/re-using-public-sector-information/uk-government-licensing-framework/open-government-licence/exceptions-to-ogl/. therefore it is able to be copied and redistributed as long as it is stated that is the work of the combined authority. yet again i apologies i should've placed a note on the section detailing that it is from the LCRCA Constitution amendment of 2024. Knowledgework69 (talk) 19:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You also should have cited your source. I am repairing the page now. Please stay off — Diannaa (talk) 19:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finished. Note I included this message as part of the citations: " Text was copied from this source, which is available under an Open Government Licence v3.0. © Crown copyright." You have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of the license.
There's also a template {{OGL-attribution}} but I have never found it to be very useful for inline use. — Diannaa (talk) 19:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright will do in future, many thanks Knowledgework69 (talk) 20:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Deans

Hi, I have just trimmed the article, as it seemed to be a close paraphrase of the Biographical Dictionary of Scottish Women article. See Earwig report Does the earlier version need to be revision deleted? I did not warn the author as they have not edited since a discussion of copyright violation in 2022. TSventon (talk) 20:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have gone ahead with revision deletion. Also, I cleared the same content from User:OdaraM/Sandbox6. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all your hard work

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I just noticed you crossed 120,000 mark for closed cases on Copypatrol. That's incredible! Thank you for your incessant hard work. You are a hero! NKohli (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar Niharika! — Diannaa (talk) 18:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

I just wanted to thank you for the citation that you added to the Mende article; since I was using my own book to create the reference, it didn't even cross my mind to cite myself, ha ha. But it makes sense of course! I've edited 20 African language articles so far, adding oral literature citations, and when I actually use a paragraph from my African Folktale bibliography book, like I did for this Mende article, I need to remember to cite myself. Thanks again! Laurakgibbs (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Di, could you take a look at this edit, [1] which appears to be copied in part at least from [2]. It may need a rev/del. I have left a message for the user. Many thanks, Knitsey (talk) 18:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revision deletion complete. Some content was apparently copied from Murderpedia as well. Thanks for reporting. — Diannaa (talk) 19:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I only got as far as checking the first part and felt it was enough to report. I was lazy and didn't check the rest 😳
Thanks for checking. Knitsey (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it alright to ad longer quotes from sources in the refs like here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golan_Heights&diff=1240532808&oldid=1240532455

Ill remove it if its not. Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 03:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes inside citations are allowed. It's not a copyright violation, but unneeded or excessive quotation can be a violation of the non-free content guideline. Whether I remove quotations, especially lengthy ones or what strikes me as excessive, depends on the topic and on the accessibility of the source and on whether or not the material is likely to be challenged. A judgement call. WP:FOOTQUOTE — Diannaa (talk) 13:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please see the Delhi School of Social Work article. The same user has copy pasted parts of the website to the article. Regards. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 19:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revde complete. Thank you for your interest in copyright cleanup. — Diannaa (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I noticed your removal of a copyrighted poem from 1999 Aggie Bonfire collapse. The same editor appears to have added the poem to Muster (Texas A&M University) as well. Redraiderengineer (talk) 17:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thank you for the report, — Diannaa (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List entries

Hi Diannaa. I (mostly) took care of an edit request at Talk:Brian Greenspan for changes to Brian_Greenspan#Notable_clients, but wasn't sure about one of them. I saw you'd recently edited there, so I thought I'd ask your opinion. One the requests was for an individual called Niam Jain.. while the case appears to have attracted a fair amount of media coverage, I'm wondering if this is still a WP:BLP1E person. Also, the coverage of the connection to Greenspan is pretty thin. Is he really worthy of inclusion in this list?

That also begs the question, is any notable client of Greenspan's worthy of mention, just for the fact that he represented them? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of a reflected glory, isn't it? It's like when people mention in an article about an actor that the film also starred Liam Neeson and was directed by Billy Wilder. I think the whole list could come out. — Diannaa (talk) 18:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mountain Province State Polytechnic College

Hello! I am currently in the process of fixing the article in preparation for a renaming per a few updates. However, the history section appears to be a full copyvio although Earwig is down for a moment. Inviting you to take the necessary steps to fix possible problems. Borgenland (talk) 15:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Modern history of the Negev

Hi! :)
You recently tagged my draft (now further drafted as History of the Negev during the Mamluk and Ottoman periods) with the Overquotation tag. First of all, thank you for that. You were absolutely right, and I have removed many unnecessary quotes from the footnotes. However, I am unsure about three of them. Could I ask for your opinion on these? It concerns footnotes 56, 57, and 81. In all cases, the wording could be omitted without significant loss. My reasoning was that these sources are written in Early New High German and Gothic script; nearly no reader will be able to check these sources. The translations of these sources were only intended as an "extra service." Would you still recommend removing them? Thanks and best regards, DaWalda (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DaWalda. That's a good question. For translations I would suggest we are better off keeping them, as it adds to verifiability. — Diannaa (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your edit Homosexuality

Dear user,

thanks for your professional edit - the Tausch study. By the way, this Austrian political scientist was thrown out from Wikipedia (see the documentation available via wikipedia category „austrian political scientists“) about the time when Springer published the book „ development, globalization, global values, and security . Essays in honor of Arno Tausch.” edited by Glen Segell, Cambridge University and Univ of Haifa. What miserable comedy. please look at the reviews of the book available from the springer website and compare this please with the utterly unacceptable tone of the debate on the deletion of the Tausch article. there are by the way, quite interesting articles on this political scientist in other languages, including Spanish, Italian, and FrenchFrete unicolore (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The content in question was added by someone else. My only reason for visiting the page was to add the attribution template, as part of copyright cleanup. It's up to the regular editors of the article to decide whether or not the addition belongs in the article. — Diannaa (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of journalists killed in the Israel–Hamas war

  • FYI: Entry #12 (October 14, 2023) -- you deleted the journalist's name but nothing else. 50.75.202.186 (talk) 21:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I did not delete any names. Some of the names were missing when I arrived at the article on May 25, 2024. — Diannaa (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      My apologies. I assumed you had based on this edit, which deleted all the other previous edits due to copyright violations. If I was wrong, apologies. In any event, there is only one unnamed fatality now (entry #12 for the date of October 14, 2023). It appears to refer to a female but only one journalist was killed on that date and the profile matches the description: "Yousef Maher Dawas, a contributing writer for the Palestine Chronicle and a writer for We Are Not Numbers (WANN), a youth-led Palestinian nonprofit project. He was killed in an Israeli missile strike on his family’s home in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Lahia, according to WANN and Palestine Chronicle." (Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war - Committee to Protect Journalists (archive.org))
      The page is locked so can you update? Thanks, 50.75.202.186 (talk) 17:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Please request an edit on the article's talk page. Cite your source. Thanks — Diannaa (talk) 20:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

McKinsey & Company - WSJ Citation

Thank you for the heads up on a plagiarism for the WSJ citation on the McKinsey page. However, the WSJ article was cited and I believe it had a sentence quoted with quotation marks (the post has been removed and I can't go back and verify that). I guess I'm not understanding how it was plagiarism if it was cited and quoted? Thank you in advance for your help.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/diversity-was-supposed-to-make-us-rich-not-so-much-39da6a23 PerseusMeredith (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were no quotation marks. — Diannaa (talk) 12:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My bad. Will the post comply if I properly include the quotation marks? Thank you for catching this. PerseusMeredith (talk) 23:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's an opinion of James Mackintosh from the Wall Street Journal. Someone added a "citation needed" tag, commenting "citation needed for studies showing no causality: later citation is about methodology, but that does not necessarily imply that causation is not proved in a rigorous study- burden is on claim to show that specific methodology *and therefore specific* results are not reliable. Currently only says there is *some* debate in methodology, but about what point specifically?" So no, I don't think it's a good addition, even if you change it to an attributed quote. If you want to get further input on this potential addition, please consider posting on the article's talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Diannaa, just a heads up that PerseusMeredith did something similar in the Diversity, equity, and inclusion article [3] where they copied exactly from the source (archival link in case you need it [4]). Again no quotation marks although it's not the sort of thing we should be quoting anyway. The copyvio has IMO been satisfactorily resolved with this edit [5] by another editor. So if you feel revdeleting in justified then I think deleting all edits between them [6] should be sufficient to fix it. To be clear, these happened at about the same time so it isn't a reoccurring problem per se, although I do wonder if it means they've done similar things elsewhere. Anyway I also mentioned this and you at this ANI thread Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#PerseusMeredith as I felt the copyvio problems were more significant than anything else mentioned in that thread. Nil Einne (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just in case you've already looked at the ANI, I've added some more examples I found elsewhere which causes me some concern. Nil Einne (talk) 10:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed at CopyPatrol

I had to do several RL things today and now we have 102 items in the queue to be assessed. I am gonna need some helpers please. Paging some recent participants: DanCherek, GreenLipstickLesbian, Ymblanter, Randomstaplers, Compassionate727, The4lines, and Win8x. Any interested talk page watchers could do a few cases as well! Please stop by and help, even if you only have time to clear a few cases. Thank you very much! — Diannaa (talk) 22:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done like a dozen of them. Might as well ask you a question once you have the time and you're experienced; what do you do with errors 404? What's the action to take? win8x (talking | spying) 23:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi win8x and thanks for helping!
That's a good question. I will typically check for an archived copy using https://web.archive.org/. If I find nothing there, I will look at the iThenticate report to see what I can find out. Sometimes pasting part of the suspect text into a Google search locates the source document. If you are able to determine the title of the article you're looking for, you can sometimes locate it by googling that. I only rarely have to give up completely. If you can't solve a case, it's ok to leave it for others to give it a try. Thanks again! — Diannaa (talk) 23:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Paraphrasing

When you have a minute, I'd like a second opinion on whether edits like this are paraphrasing too closely. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that one is okay. Scientific or medical information is not easily reworked into our own words. It would have to be more egregious than this for me to remove it. — Diannaa (talk) 20:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

I dont understant what you want me to fix, please email me via jgodl @ protonmail . com

John Godl (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@John Godl: Prose you find online, in books, in magazines, and in newspapers is almost always copyright, and cannot be copied here; it's against the copyright policy of this website to do so. All prose must be written in your own words. — Diannaa (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry

I want to create a page for this man https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%82_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AF%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%86 this is his arabic page and when i was talking to my friend and asked her about him she replied to me with that she doesn't know him and then i asked her to look him up here on wikipedia but she told me that she couldn't find the page for him, and now I'm thinking about creating an English page for him since he's an economist who had developed the banking sector in saudi arabia. unfortunately i cannot do it since im not an admin, can you help me with it? 176.224.41.144 (talk) 11:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can get started in draft space. It's possible to do that even if you are not logged in. See Wikipedia:Drafts#Creating and editing drafts. — Diannaa (talk) 12:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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