Talk:Obama
Obama
[edit]It's pretty absurd that the first meaning is "1. An African surname.", and president Obama is only the second. If there was no president Obama, there wouldn't be this dictionary entry either. --84.248.1.100 15:01, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Kept. See archived discussion of November 2008. 21:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Guarani
[edit]From User Talk:Oolong talk page. Thanks for your contributuions. As to Obama#Guarani, what is the source for this? Also, it belongs at obama, if it is real. DCDuring TALK 12:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- It's from a Paraguayan friend - unfortunately I can't find a really good dictionary for the language online, but it's readily verified that 'ba' (or 'va') means 'transform', and she seems to be correct in telling me that the -ma ending is a suffix for simple future conjugation. As I understand it the O attached to the beginning is the Guarani way of dealing with the pronoun here. But fair enough if all this doesn't live up to Wiktionary's marvellously rigorous standards of verification - and you are right, of course, that it shouldn't be capitalised. --Oolong 21:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I'm going to copy this conversation to the talk page at Obama. DCDuring TALK 22:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense: cool, etc. Could be. Might be lower case. Needs to be shown as or gradable or comparative/superlative. DCDuring TALK 23:13, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
"Clocked out DCDuring TALK 21:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- RFV failed, section removed. —RuakhTALK 16:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hypernym: "Marxist"
[edit]User Vahagn Petrosyan put "Marxist" in as a hypernym for Obama. Isn't that somewhat politically subjective? It clearly aims at painting Barack Obama as a far-left ideologue which I, having read Marx in school, do not think he is. Please review. --80.153.237.72 11:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- Haha I love Vahag... I'll get rid of this. :) — [Ric Laurent] — 11:15, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- That's because you hate America and you want terrorists to win. Also, you are a gay Mexican trying to steal my job. --Vahag 18:41, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense: sole sense, with expected definition. But I'd be surprised if there were, say, graded, comparative, or predicate uses as an adjective. DCDuring (talk) 15:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- I looked for "very Obama" in Google books and found these three sentences: "I think the film is very Obama," “Very now. Local, organic, outdoors, simple, back to basics, very Obama.” “It's a very Obama thing that citizenship isn't just about rights," ... That said, any noun can be used this way, and it is just systematic polysemy, so don't know if a separate sense is needed. If we do keep the def should be something along the lines of "characteristic of the political/social perspective of Obama" - Sonofcawdrey (talk) 02:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- From that, I would call this cited. If we are going to argue polysemy, that really should take place in RFD. When something fails RFV, the wording says don't reenter without valid citations, which are apparently something someone could add relatively easily. Kiwima (talk) 06:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 20:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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Obāma. --07:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- is it always masculine ,even when referring to a woman? —Soap— 21:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not too excited about looking for contemporary examples, but the basic way that names work in Latin is that they're masculine if the person is male and feminine if the person is female, regardless of form. The declension "Obāma, Obāmī" is also implausible and more likely would be "Obāma, Obāmae" (if not alternatively converted to "Obāmus, Obāmī"): second-declension names that end in -a in the nominative singular don't exist, unless perhaps some recent authors have, for reasons unknown to me, created such chimeras.--Urszag (talk) 10:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Soap: It's probably Obama in the sense "1.1. Barack Obama, 44th president of the United States of America.", where masculine gender (only) makes sense.
- @Urszag: Indeed, which was also a reason for RFV.
- --09:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not too excited about looking for contemporary examples, but the basic way that names work in Latin is that they're masculine if the person is male and feminine if the person is female, regardless of form. The declension "Obāma, Obāmī" is also implausible and more likely would be "Obāma, Obāmae" (if not alternatively converted to "Obāmus, Obāmī"): second-declension names that end in -a in the nominative singular don't exist, unless perhaps some recent authors have, for reasons unknown to me, created such chimeras.--Urszag (talk) 10:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- IP user, please sign your comments using four tildes, not five. When you don't use four tildes to sign your IP address and name, it is an inconvenience to other users, as the "Reply" button does not appear. This, that and the other (talk) 02:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Uncited for more than a month, thus RFV-failed.--Urszag (talk) 03:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)