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Hi, Do not create speedy deletions when there is a regular DR: [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:500px photo (48131844).jpeg]]. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
Hi, Do not create speedy deletions when there is a regular DR: [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:500px photo (48131844).jpeg]]. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:You were already asked several times, so this is the last warning. Next will be a block. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
:You were already asked several times, so this is the last warning. Next will be a block. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Yann]] What do you mean by I "was already asked several times"? Asked what? The regular deletion request I made on that image had already closed, however it should be deleted based on an SD category. [[User:Mztourist|Mztourist]] ([[User talk:Mztourist#top|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
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High Contrast (talk) 01:12, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- You must specify the source you have stated. "US Navy" as source is not sufficient. Thank you in advance. --High Contrast (talk) 01:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- It was one of a number of images that I downloaded from a US Navy website (and have uploaded into Commons for use on various Vietnam War wikis that I have updated), but when I tried to locate source details on the US Navy website they only show images dating back to the mid-1990s. Any suggestions?
- Where did you download these images? The URLs of these "US Navy website"s are of prime importance. --High Contrast (talk) 16:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- The photos were taken from www.history.navy.mil. I have spent about 6 hours trying to locate the urls but the Navy like other branches of the US military has revamped its websites over the last few years and removed the images and apparently consolidated them in the National Archives (see http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/numeric/numbers.htm under heading II), where they are no longer searchable online and you have to pay to get the results (eg. http://gallery.pictopia.com/natf/photo/?photo_name=532443%20%28127-N-A187266%29). This means that these images which were in the public domain have in effect been made private.
So for example File:Vietnamese refugees disembarking helicopter, Operation Frequent Wind.jpg (not a photo I loaded) if you click on the source link it no longer works - so should it be deleted now?
As a lawyer I appreciate the need to protect copyright, but I would think that the youtube approach is the most sensible approach to adopt, if someone comes and claims copyright has been breached then the images can be deleted (but that won't be the case as they are US Government images), but if we just go and delete these historic images now we help in removing them from the public domain
Do you have a better version of File:PAVN PT-76 at Lang Vei.jpg?
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Again, thank you very much for your contribution, it is appreciated.High Contrast (talk) 20:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Better source request for Image:Hurlburt Field UH-1P Tail No 64-15493.jpg
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If you look at the URL: http://www.hurlburt.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/011806-F-0000S-042.jpg you will see that it comes from www.hurlbert.af.mil i.e. a USAF base photo MZTourist
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And also:
Yours sincerely, . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:39, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Overcategorization of Vietnam photos
Hi, general commons guidelines recommend not to add a file to several levels of a categorization tree. Any particular reason that files in the Category:Vietnam War in XXXX should be exempt from this rule? TommyG (talk) 07:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Because categorizing by month isn't as useful as categorizing by year. I'm not overcategorizing anything, in fact I'm often removing overcategorization, see for example File:AirForceSecurityPoliceTanSoNnhut.jpg. There also seems to be far too much granularization of categories eg: File:64th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron Bien Hoa RVN 1966.jpg and File:C-123B landing at Bien Hoa.jpg regards Mztourist (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Please don't leave categories as orphans
Hello Mztourist,
When you create new categories please don't leave them orphans. All categories should be sub-categories of one or more other categories. You can include them in Category:Vietnam War or a more specific subcategory if you can find one. You can see how this is done by checking the changes I did to your categories. MKFI (talk) 06:47, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
While looking through photographs of the Vietnam War I noticed that you had contributed a large amount of them, thanks for all your contributions in documenting the history of that period of world history. I'm glad to sss your uploads. Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks User:Donald Trung! While the Vietnam War was one of the most most photographed in history, the number of free use images is relatively small, so I'm always looking to add more here. Best regards Mztourist (talk) 11:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Import suggestions
Not sure if you're interested in this or not, but as I don't have much time I am often forced to leave a lot of valuable educational content unimported to Wikimedia Commons. I am not sure if you know about these or not, but there is a forum known as "Enemymilitaria" where scans of documents related to North Vietnam and North Korea are often shared, furthermore there is the Naval History and Heritage Command which also houses a large amount of public domain files related to the conflicts between the United States and Socialist States in the Far East (Korean War and Vietnam War). --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check out Enemymilitaria. I'm working my way through NHHC. Mztourist (talk) 11:57, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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I appreciate your edits to photos I uploaded. Have a nice week. — 사도바울 (talk) 08:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks user:사도바울!
@Mztourist: wondering if a rename of the file would be appropriate (#2) Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 12:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think its fine, it comes from the USMC archives. Mztourist (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Copyright status: File:South Vietnamese civilians flee down Highway 1 from Quang Tri.jpg
Copyright status: File:South Vietnamese civilians flee down Highway 1 from Quang Tri.jpg
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Thanks for uploading File:South Vietnamese civilians flee down Highway 1 from Quang Tri.jpg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.
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And also:
- File:Phoenix Program identity card of dead Vietcong.jpg
- File:Remnants of victims of the Massacre at Hue.jpg
Yours sincerely, Yann (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- User:Yann I have provided all relevant available information. The photos came from the Australian War memorial website who state that their copyright status is unclear. Mztourist (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, You need to add a license which matches their copyright to each file, or they will be deleted. If you need help, please ask on COM:VPC. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Deletion requests
Hi, I have seen you making some DRs because of meaningless name. However, this is not a proper reason for deletion. If you find some files with inappropriate filenames, you may request rename by snapping {{Rename}} on the files. Happy editing. A1Cafel (talk) 10:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- A1Cafel the meaningless names is not the only basis, they also have no or minimal descriptions and no categories meaning that the photos are not educational and so are Out of scope. Mztourist (talk) 10:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- So please explain more on the DRs, and put the rationale of out of project scope at the beginning. Otherwise, they may be considered as invalid. --A1Cafel (talk) 10:56, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Noted, thanks. Mztourist (talk) 11:04, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- So please explain more on the DRs, and put the rationale of out of project scope at the beginning. Otherwise, they may be considered as invalid. --A1Cafel (talk) 10:56, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Deletion templates
Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion F10: low-to-medium quality selfies and other personal images of or by users who have no constructive global contributions {{SD|F10}} directly onto the file page
Out of scope as no useful description, location or valid categories, low quality and so not educationally useful
COM:ADVERT {{SD|G10}}
Out of scope as self-created artwork without obvious educational use
Batch deletion
Following on from your comment at Commons:Deletion requests/File:IMG20190315181526hg.jpg about only deleting a single image from a set, I can recommend using Help:VisualFileChange.js as a tool to nominate batches of files for deletion all at once (eg. all uploads from a user, all uploads in a category), or to prepend speedy deletion templates. I use it a lot myself when flagging spam and selfies. Lord Belbury (talk) 17:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Mztourist (talk) 17:04, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Excessive bad deletion requests
Please reconsider your approach to deletion requests; you have recently made a number that have no support, are badly thought out, and do not reflect Commons policy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- My deletion requests have made it very clear that there are a number of Users who have forgotten the Commons:Project scope and think that this some kind of "good photography" site. My deletion requests are generally of portraits/self-portraits or terrain and they lack meaningful names, useful descriptions and/or location or valid non-generic categories and so are not searchable and so not educationally useful as required by the Project scope. Some Users seem to think that merely providing a generic description of an image and a few general categories justifies their retention, while others claim that an image that is "nice" is sufficient reason to keep it; it seems that they are reluctant to accept deleting images at all despite the lack of any educational usefulness. Mztourist (talk) 03:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- In situations where unlabelled uploads are from long-term users who are still active here on Commons, it would save time and be more collegiate if you simply reminded them to describe and categorise their images, rather than opening multiple deletion requests.
- You say in Commons:Deletion requests/File:500px photo (30081581).jpeg (which was quickly described and categorised in response to the nomination) that my point with these nominations is to make mass uploaders like you stop and think about whether each image is really worth uploading in the first place. This is not an appropriate use of the deletion request system. If you want a user to stop and think about something, post to their talk page. If the two of you disagree about scope or educational use, you can take it to a more general discussion at Commons talk:Project scope or COM:ANU or somewhere. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- If they're a long-term user they should know better. Mztourist (talk) 10:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Account age doesn't make any difference. If you encounter a long-term user who appears to have misunderstood something fundamental about Commons, that's a big deal: talk to them about it, and escalate it elsewhere if necessary. Making a few deletion requests to make them "stop and think" is much less likely to resolve the problem, and it takes up unnecessary time and space in the deletion process. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- That particular User has been active since 2009 and appears to have just got lazy focussing on mass rather than usability and purpose, however I appreciate your point and will keep it in mind for next time. Mztourist (talk) 11:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Account age doesn't make any difference. If you encounter a long-term user who appears to have misunderstood something fundamental about Commons, that's a big deal: talk to them about it, and escalate it elsewhere if necessary. Making a few deletion requests to make them "stop and think" is much less likely to resolve the problem, and it takes up unnecessary time and space in the deletion process. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- If they're a long-term user they should know better. Mztourist (talk) 10:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
From the thirty "F10: low-to-medium quality selfies" entries you've added to Commons:Deletion_requests/2022/09/28 today, I think you've misunderstood speedy deletion.
Speedy deletion is for cases where the problem is so obvious that it doesn't even need a discussion. You just put a {{SD}} template (eg. {{SD|F10}} directly onto the file page and wait (sometimes only a few minutes) for a Commons admin to either agree with you and delete the image, or question it and remove the template. In the latter case they'll often start a deletion request themselves to discuss the issue. Lord Belbury (talk) 10:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Obviously that's the deletion criteria that I believe they belong under, but I expect that you or Ikan may contest them or perhaps suggest that I'm trying to push through deletions. Mztourist (talk) 10:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- If an image is genuinely F10, flagging it for immediate speedy deletion is the right thing to do. I'm not going to monitor or contest your speedy deletion tags, they'll all be checked by an admin before deletion happens. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Hi, Do not create speedy deletions when there is a regular DR: Commons:Deletion requests/File:500px photo (48131844).jpeg. Thanks, Yann (talk) 10:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- You were already asked several times, so this is the last warning. Next will be a block. Yann (talk) 10:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- User:Yann What do you mean by I "was already asked several times"? Asked what? The regular deletion request I made on that image had already closed, however it should be deleted based on an SD category. Mztourist (talk) 10:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)