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Heisman Winner [78229]
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Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 6:30 PM
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are, which is "Opening NIL Bid Opportunities".
The Dukes of the world are now looking at Clemson recruits as prime poaching candidates. I totally get why Dabo wants to use NIL to keep his guys that have proven they are good players. BUT, more and more, it seems that policy is meaning we are not going to continue to GET those good players going forward. I may just be seeing the sky falling when it ain't, but guys flipping from us to DUKE is a new dynamic, one that don't give me a warm fuzzy noneatalltoo.
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Top TigerNet [29515]
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TBH, he's from the Greensboro area
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Aug 25, 2024, 6:48 PM
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It's not like a recruit from Georgia or Alabama flipping to Duke. Greensboro and Durham are about 50 miles apart. I'm sure their coaches used that and NIL offers$$ to sway him.
The true spirit and intent of the NIL is long gone or never really was around to begin with.
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Valley Legend [12582]
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It's almost always and entirely been Pay-For-Play.***
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Aug 25, 2024, 6:53 PM
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Rival Killer [2967]
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That is not true
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Aug 25, 2024, 9:01 PM
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You just tell yourself that to justify losing recruits
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Rival Killer [2776]
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"True spirit of NIL"?
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Aug 25, 2024, 7:16 PM
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That is subjective and undefinable.
It is what it is. It's here to stay.
It follows the time-honored American principle of "Let the market decide".
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Top TigerNet [29515]
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Re: "True spirit of NIL"?
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Aug 25, 2024, 7:55 PM
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NIL was meant to reward players for making a name for themselves and getting some money since the school is making money. Feel like you know this.
Wasn't originally meant to be a recruiting tool for HS players that have never played a down of college ball or part of a bidding war for transfers that may or may not have been tampered with.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Bogus. NIL resulted from the NCAA...
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:27 PM
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preventing college athletes from profiting from their own NIL while the schools and the NCAA gut rich from it.
There were no stipulations in how it could be used and what's going on right now is calmed "entrepreneurship".
It's 100% legal under federal law and at least 31 states that have laws protecting it.
And...the NCAA and everyone if it's members will have to pay big bucks to defeat the costs of the House case settlement. That is karmic.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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There is no such thing as tampering now.
Aug 26, 2024, 4:06 AM
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Any NCAA rule against it violates multiple federal laws, some state laws, and the injunctions in the Tennessee vs NCAA and Ohio vs NCAA cases.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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State laws about NIL
Aug 26, 2024, 4:09 AM
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Generally don't regulate anything regarding the deals. They primarily regulate the NCAA from interfering with those deals.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99216]
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You're wasting your time trying to have a discussion with Bluffton OrangeMan...
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Aug 26, 2024, 8:46 AM
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he's obsessed with college amateur athletes being legally paid and gets triggered easily if anyone suggests there should be any guardrails in place to prevent college football from becoming the Wild Wild West.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Wrong. I'm tired of uniformed Clemson fans...
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Aug 28, 2024, 9:37 AM
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that don't keep up with the legal situation making us look ignorant in a very public way.
Our competition tours stereotypes of Clemson fans being ignorant hillbillies.
They don't need the help.
The education I provide here is free.
I'm not getting fair market value, either. 😁😁
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99216]
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Replying twice to the same post is a clear sign
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Aug 28, 2024, 10:26 AM
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you are not triggered.
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All-American [554]
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Re: Wrong, Part 2
Aug 28, 2024, 10:44 AM
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It's no myth that college was never nil until some groups got involved and said they should be paid. Rosters were stacked with poor folks for years wanting to get college education. Then, some group said that ain't enough.
Here we are.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Re: Wrong, Part 2
Aug 28, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Actually, the courts overturning decades of athlete exploitation is what happened.
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Asst Coach [872]
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Re: Bogus. NIL resulted from the NCAA...
Aug 26, 2024, 6:18 PM
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This will be impossible to continue going forward. Even the NFL realized you need contracts and salary caps. I have no problem in paying them but they have to be contracted. No more portal BS. Salary caps for the roster so no one school can buy all the talent. Then, they truly have to make a REAL commitment just like adults. Highest bidder goes out the window.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Dude, look around.
Aug 28, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Those things are blatant violations of federal law and federal court injunctions.
The only way you get those things is to make all college athletes employees.
That means unionization, union contracts, the right to strike, workers compensation,
and most importantly a Congressional antitrust exemption. Congress can't get any traction on the latter. The NCAA is fighting the former and nail.
If what you want occurs, get ready for a 131 team draft, no recruiting, and no athletes getting to choose where they go.
Very unlikely to impossible scenario there, dude.
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Hall of Famer [8965]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Rentals
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This is a much more accurate word.***
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Aug 25, 2024, 6:55 PM
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 6:52 PM
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They definitely need to come up with some new recruiting verbiage for the modern, professional era of college football.
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Legend [6899]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 7:17 PM
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How about first date?
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CU Medallion [19650]
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Just call them: verbals and then once signed: commitments***
Aug 25, 2024, 7:18 PM
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Game Changer [1781]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 7:59 PM
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NIL…… No Intention of Loyalty.
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 8:05 PM
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He’s one guy. There are lots of reasons why one guy might’ve made this decision. Let’s wait before we declare this a new trend.
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Clemson Conqueror [11989]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:08 PM
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I committed to begin training for a marathon this morning….at 1:00pm.
I have now committed to begin training for a marathon tomorrow morning.
I’m very committed to committing a commitment on committing. I’m so committed, I feel like maybe I should be committed.
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Orange Blooded [2575]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:29 PM
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He’s not too bright if he chose Duke over Clemson.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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How do you know that?
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:42 PM
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If his post college football future doesn't include pro football, especially.
A degree from Duke is nothing to sneeze at.
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Legend [7025]
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Re: How do you know that?
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:52 PM
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Right? I get that some people here are proud of their Clemson degree, and rightfully so, But Duke is on a completely different level academically. And let's be honest, most employers don't care where you went to school anyway....
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Rival Killer [2776]
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I'm proud of my Clemson degree
Aug 28, 2024, 9:41 AM
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It helped me a great deal with my career.
The majority of it was in South Carolina.
If I had chosen to work in another state, I'm not sure the Clemson degree would have given the same benefit as a Duke degree.
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All-Time Great [97405]
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It's always been that way with Dabo.
Aug 26, 2024, 8:57 AM
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All Dabo's offers are conditions. The conditions are that they behave and have not hidden things in their past which indicate they might be a bad egg.
We've seen recruits turn away from commitments to Clemson before. Some have always been enticed by money or guaranteed playing time. Some might go elsewhere due to their offer being pulled. Even if the rules don't allow a coach to reveal such information Dabo is the type of man who would not give a negative report on a recruit.
Your protest is noted but note that above is listed enough information to let you know that your speculation, blaming a lost recruit on the NIL system is short on evidence. It's just your opinion.
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Orange Blooded [2189]
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Re: Let's just quit calling these things "Commitments". Call them what they really
Aug 28, 2024, 10:43 AM
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It's more like...."We're going steady but I'm not off the market". 
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Gridiron Giant [15957]
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So what did I miss??? Who flipped????***
Aug 28, 2024, 11:09 AM
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