User talk:Vogone

Hi Vogone, thank you for rolling back the edits on Rajiv Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi. Is it possible for me to request Rollback rights similar to Wikipedia? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at the moment only global rollbackers and sysops have the rollback permission here. There's no "rollbacker" user group. But we could make a proposal to add this right to e. g. the autopatrolled user group or to create a new user group. Greetings, Vogone (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay. Where do I suggest that? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Project_chat would be good for that. (I would support such a proposal, btw ;-) ) --Vogone (talk) 17:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okies. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I was wondering if you could let me know how I am doing out here. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your contribs look good. BTW, there's a gadget (slurpInterwiki) which is very useful to collect all interwiki links from a page. Then you have more time and less edits, so that you can create more items ;-) Kind regards, Vogone (talk) 19:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know about the gadget, I even have it installed, but it fails to work properly on IE7 which I use on my University PCs. So I end up doing everything manually. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:15, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, I have sent you a mail. Please let me know if you get it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already  granted ;-) --Vogone (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘How long does an RfC usually last? A week like RfP? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to delete the talk page as well. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 18:57, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already seen and  Done. Thanks anyway :-) --Vogone (talk) 18:59, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Bye, --Syrio posso aiutare? 22:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Could I ask you to check a thing? While creating an element from itwiki I think I had some problems, and I ended up with this two elements: Q819804 and Q819771. I tried to erase label, description and the link to itwiki from the second one, but it doesn't let me do so (because - trying using the english language - "Edit not allowed: Another item (819804) already has label "Malfurion Grantempesta" and description "Personaggio della serie Warcraft" associated with language code it"). Hows can I fix that? --Syrio posso aiutare? 23:53, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

We are fixing such problems with the deletion of one of the items by an administrator. I've  Done that. Thanks for your work, Vogone (talk) 05:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a french user, so excuse my english.
Hello, just for information it was really me. It was tentatives to edit a page from the API but I've some problemes with loggin (see here). I'll probably redo it later, so if you have a doubt, don't worry, ask me first ;). See you soon. --Reptilien.19831209BE1 (talk) 07:54, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay ... thanks for your nice explanation :-) Greetings, Vogone (talk) 14:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, I realised that the Hindi main page is outdated and needs to be updated. I thought I'd volunteer to take it up for now. Since I need to shift some news to the archive, I created a page. However, instead of creating WD:News/hi, I created Wikidata:समाचार instead. Is that okay? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, seems good. For example the German subpage is also translated. Thanks, Vogone (talk) 16:33, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thank you. :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm obviously not a coder but I like what you are doing with the template. I wanted to see what it would look like:

(delete | history | links | log)

The log link could easily be removed (Its just an idea) but I think the history and links button would be helpful. Which would probably need a discussion because there is probably even better ideas out there but what do you think? -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 10:28, 29 December 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Let's try it. I've implemented it and it works for me. Thanks for the idea, Vogone (talk) 18:06, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regards --Iste Praetor (talk) 21:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Danke für die Rechte als "Automatischer Kontrollierer", wobei ich mich frage, warum das nicht "Automatischer Sichter" heißt, wie auf dewiki. Den Link auf deiner Seite zu SWMT könntest du anpassen auf http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_Wiki_Monitoring_Team/de , da die Seite inzwischen geändert und/oder übersetzt wurde. Gruß --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 13:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kein Problem und danke für den Tipp. Die Benutzergruppe heißt hier „Automatischer Kontrollierer“, da es aus technischer Sicht etwas anderes ist als ein „Automatischer Sichter“. In dewiki wird die Extension:FlaggedRevs genutzt, hier nicht. Es gibt hier keine klassischen „Sichterknöpfe“, sondern nur den kleinen Link [als kontrolliert markieren]. Zudem sind Seiten beim Kontrolliersystem sofort für die Öffentlichkeit sichtbar, egal ob kontrolliert oder nicht. Beim Sichtersystem wird ja bekanntlich immer die letzte „gesichtete Version“ angezeigt. Die Benennung der Gruppe ist trotzdem ein wenig merkwürdig, da du auch die „aktiven“ Rechte damit hast. ;-) Grüße, Vogone (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I quite follow your objection - who's ever heard of a lack of dashed confusing people? I mean, I can put a link right before my signature

Q1. — Francophonie&Androphilie(^{Je vous invite à me parler})

without confusing anything, neither on a wikicode level nor a human-readable one. And that would even be the case if my signature didn't start with a dash

Q42. Francophonie&Androphilie (talk)

The only potentially confusing situation would be if someone forgot to use a period (full stop), and didn't have a dash in their sig

Q2012 Francophonie&Androphilie (talk)

but I don't see how any concerns on that front outweigh the ugly

Q2013 -- — Francophonie&Androphilie(^{Je vous invite à me parler})

— Francophonie&Androphilie(^{Je vous invite à me parler}) 14:36, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per this, I've reverted you, on the presumption that you're going to be inactive for a while. My apologies if this conclusion is in error. Good luck with your private matter, and all the best. — Francophonie&Androphilie(^{Je vous invite à me parler}) 10:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: Subject moved to Template:Request for deletion.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  03:10, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ar nori patikrinti (ir tobulinti) mano vertimą? πr² (t • c) 04:58, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Bot have userpage with contact info and creates several pages per minute with pauses. If I run script from my account and give no summary - whats difference when I create same pages manually? I'll ask for flag, but no until bot can not only create but also import interwiki. JAn Dudík (talk) 21:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I answered on your talk page. Regards, Vogone talk 21:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Answered? you informed me about block, but no answers about differences. JAn Dudík (talk) 21:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I informed you about the process here. Bot accounts without flag or community approval are not acceptable. If you are changing items in the same way like you would do manually why aren't you using your normal account then? Regards, Vogone talk 21:49, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not same way, but same speed of edits and less clicks for me.JAn Dudík (talk) 21:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Then do it with your non-bot account, please. A bot account for such half-automated processes is just confusing and unnecessary, in my opinion. But I'll unblock the account. Regards, Vogone talk 21:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WD:N/EC, not WT:N/EC, n'est-ce pas ? — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 19:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LOL; Lukas has already mentioned on IRC. But IMO it does not matter as the consensus for these deletions is stated there. Regards, Vogone talk 20:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. :-) — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 20:38, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted this Item per WT:N/EC (fi:Luokka:Ohjaukset Wikisanakirjaan) but this edit suggests that it contained 15 links at least at some point of which only the Finisch one falls under the exclusion policy. The item normally only should have been deleted if it only contained that Finish link (which it maybe did when you deleted it). I can't trace where something went wrong but we should think of something to prevent something like that from happening in the future. I created Q6112524 before I noticed that Issue so no undeletion of Q670288 is needed.--Saehrimnir (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q12345 -> Ich hab dich auch gaaanz gern :-P --Bene* ^t_a^l_k 22:13, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In this change are missing two commas in the "'success':" phrase. --Vivaelcelta (talk) 16:10, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your attention. I hope it is fixed now. Regards, Vogone talk 16:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks a lot for the recent upgrade of my status! Powerek38 (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the nomination! Already trying out deletions, will hopefully learn the tools of the trade quite quickly. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thx! It was strange to me, becouse this item was very old. I was checked all history items, but, my checking was not deep. In future I will be more carefull and will be check all. Karol007 talk 00:57, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know it takes a lot of courage and motivation to check the edits and the history of a user and vote as the first one. Thank you very much. -- Meisam (talk) 13:06, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The known bug of diff pages is now solved, you can remove "User:Ricordisamoa/DiffFixer.js" from User:Vogone/common.js.

Thanks! --Ricordisamoa 05:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, diffs aren't working again :\ --Ricordisamoa 17:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone,
You deleted Q7770981. Notice that it's used in several other data sets Special:WhatLinksHere/Q7770981 with the instance of property. If you deletion is correct, what should the Latin alphabet letters be instances of? Should there be instead a property "is a letter of" Latin script?--Moyogo (talk) 07:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and made a proposal Wikidata:Property proposal#is grapheme of / est un graphème de. --Moyogo (talk) 08:30, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone,

Please see my request about the a/m item on RfD. --  Docu  at 10:55, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jitrixis!

Could you have a look on this section, please? Thanks in advance, Vogone talk 14:21, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what is the problem but it's work perfectly with me. I don't know where is the problem. I don't think it's from the script, because he ask to the api the last log of the file. If it's a deletion log the file is deleted (because a file which has been deleted can't have anymore log except if the page has been recreated) and he see the name of the person who have made this log. I've some question. What is the OS of your computer (Windows/Linux/Mac/...) the name of the navigator and his version (for exemple Firefox 19.0.2) ---- Jitrixis (talk) 14:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I had the problem with too different OSes. Mac OS (10.6) and Ubuntu Linux (12.04). Furthermore, I used Safari 6.0.2 and Firefox 19.0.2. Kind regards, Vogone talk 14:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. (You've deleted Q7593080 which Tntchn‎ RfDed as a duplicate after merging.) An add-on for a Mozilla program can be a plug-in or a background theme too, and those are not extensions or XPI files. That is, "add-on" and "extension" should be separate if Wikidata is for facts and not just convenient interwikis for Wikipedia. --AVRS (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2013 (UTC) I've reopened Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts#Q2467894.2FQ7593080 which led to the merge. --AVRS (talk) 21:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I also can't understand why you have deleted this page. These are different things with different names. Please restore it. --TarzanASG (talk) 21:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  If you e. g. compare the English and the French article you can see that both are about Add-ons and extensions. I don't see why one shouldn't connect them to each other just because of a different label. Regards, Vogone talk 22:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  Label means a concept. Some of the articles are only about extensions. At least merging extensions into add-ons would be closer to reality. Mangling fact entries for the sake of interwikis won't solve all interwiki conflicts, see Wikidata_talk:Interwiki_conflicts#Sibling_conflicts. --AVRS (talk) 11:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  Please restore. Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts#Q2467894/Q10396669 (Mozilla extension vs add-on). --AVRS (talk) 10:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

   Done Vogone talk 10:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks! --AVRS (talk) 06:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping out at the deletion page. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thank you for notifying. ;-) Vogone talk 18:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please see above. --  Docu  at 15:00, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

, bist jetzt 'crat und kannst dich direkt um die Kandidatur von Bene* kümmern ;) -- Milad A380 (talk) 15:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vielen Dank für deine Bemühungen. Bene* ist nun auch Bürokrat. :-) Grüße, Vogone talk 23:12, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on becoming a bureaucrat and thank you for all the work you have done for the community, it is very much appreciated! -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 17:42, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. :-) Cheers, Vogone talk 23:12, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, have fun with the new tools :) IW 17:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; I wish the same for you on dewiki. :-) Cheers, Vogone talk 18:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you are there please come back on to IRC NOW! :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the Serbian Wikipedia, I blocked under various charges without evidence. Now please give me a rollback flag. Here contributing constantly adds interwiki, create new items and other. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Finally, I have one question : When I delete a item, I can choose 4 reasons in the group "Items". Do the reason "Duplicted items" and "Merged with" are strictly redundant ? Or does "Merged with" is for say "I'm delete this item in wikidata, because the item was merged on the wikipedias" ? Or does "Duplicted items" is for say "I'm just delete a dummy creation without any transfer of interlanguage link" ? And I have the same question for the two reasons "Notability policy"/"Exclusion criteria". --Nouill (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It makes no difference whether you chose "Duplicated item" or "Merged with". They are indeed redundant. In the case "Notability policy"/"Exclusion criteria" "Notability policy" fits always. "Exclusion criteria" is just a special case of the "Notabilty policy". So you can use "Notability policy" all the time but "Exclusion criteria" only, if the linked page was in one of the on Wikidata:Notability/Exclusion criteria mentioned categories. Regards, Vogone talk 22:50, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank. :) --Nouill (talk) 10:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, i find one problem. Look here - MediaWiki:Aboutsite/bn. here Wikidata need to translate in bn. But how? (i can't find any link in translatewiki.net also, if u can plz give me the link where i can trns. it) Thanks -- Aftab1995 (talk) 18:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean translation of "Wikidata", the output of {{SITENAME}}? You can't translate that AFAIK, but you could either manually translate it or there might have been a template someone created to use instead. Just popped up here :P  Hazard-SJ  ✈  01:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok.Plz add here Template:Sitename this bn=উইকিউপাত্ত thanks.--Aftab1995 (talk) 12:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done :-) Vogone talk 15:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for ur help. but, still it's showing in english.plz change it MediaWiki:Aboutsite/bn manually (remove this {{SITENAME}} বৃত্তান্ত and add this উইকিউপাত্ত বৃত্তান্ত) --Aftab1995 (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked someone on IRC who told me that's impossible to make SITENAME multilingual. I'll try to manually modify the local system message. Regards, Vogone talk 21:31, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done :-) Regards, Vogone talk 21:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ich wollte wissen warum Sie das Datenobjekt gelöscht haben: Q11617732. (Da es für meine Benutzerseite auf Wikipedia benützt wird.)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

--Suriyaa Kudo (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Laut Wikidata:Notability Punkt 1 sind Datenobjekte für Benutzerseiten nicht erlaubt. Falls die Interwiki-Verlinkung jedoch weiterhin erwünscht sein sollte, ist die alte Methode zu nutzen. Viele Grüße, Vogone talk 16:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Can u make this (Wikidata:প্রধান_পাতা main page of bn wikidata) page as "semi-protected" to avoid Vandalism from unresisted user. thanks --Aftab1995 (talk) 21:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Vogone talk 21:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

UTC)

Hello. In two of your votes on RfOS I have had to delete a stray UTC) that your edits inserted. Just letting you be aware.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite difficult to vote with a mobile device. I'm sorry for the mistakes and thank you for the correction. Regards, Vogone talk 05:54, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. --Rschen7754 06:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo! Mir ist es unverständlich, wie hier Bots zugelassen werden. Mal einen Tag nicht reingeguckt, schon steht die Erlaubnis (auch bei offenen Fragen, siehe bitte die History vom FischBot mit zwischenzeitlichem Approval). Und so überträgt der FischBot jetzt auch Labels, wie sie von Help:Description/de explizit nicht erwünscht sind (zu detailliert, zu wenig Abstraktion, siehe bitte User_talk:Pyfisch#Help:Description.2Fde). Sowas kann doch in Ruhe geklärt werden und mit Rücksicht auf Leute, die hier schon vergleichsweise aktiv sind, aber eben nicht jeden Tag. Grüße, --Polarlys (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ich traf diese Entscheidung nicht ohne Rücksprache mit den Kollegen. Dass die Beschreibungen zum Teil nicht ganz Help:Description/de entsprechen ist zwar unglücklich, aber immer noch besser als gar keine Beschreibung. Zum Unterscheiden von Datenobjekten ist auch eine längere und detailliertere Beschreibung einigermaßen brauchbar. Help:Description/de stellt sozusagen den Idealfall dar, nicht aber zwingend den Ist-Zustand. Selbstverständlich sollte man beim Hinzufügen von neuen Beschreibungen versuchen, sich daran zu halten und wenn man nicht perfekte Beschreibungen vorfindet, diese zu verbessern. Zudem habe ich bei der Freigabe dieser Bottätigkeit die Möglichkeit zur weiteren Diskussion offengelassen, falls jemand trotzdem absolut unglücklich mit dieser Entscheidung sein sollte und/oder bessere Alternativen aufzeigen kann. Liebe Grüße, Vogone talk 14:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danke für deine Antwort. --Polarlys (talk) 17:13, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of nom doesn't support the candidate? ;) FrigidNinja 21:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sort who is a bureaucrat and wants to close the request after 1 week. :-P Greets, Vogone talk 21:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know if you intend to use the same kind of system as meta, but there is some problems related to Translation_Notification_Bot you should be aware of! In this example, the bot has added notes in the user_talk of inactive users, and has therefor been blocked. -- Lavallen (block) 09:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit silly, because this is actually a MediaWiki extension, not a bot. --Rschen7754 09:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know, but it is still a problem. -- Lavallen (block) 09:47, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you actually read the mw:Extension:TranslationNotifications page, you would find that people sign up for these notifications through the Special:TranslatorSignup page. If they then go inactive and don't take their names off the list, that's not our problem. --Rschen7754 10:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know they do, but adding notes, nobody is interested to read, is regarded as spam, nomatter who does it or on who's request. Also the Babel-extension-bot was blocked. I think you should report this as a bugg in the Extension. Inactive users should not be notified! Even messages sent by EdwardsBot from WMF is sometimes reverted, all users have to follow local rules.

-- Lavallen (block) 10:25, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Following your reasoning, all user talk pages of inactive users could be full-protected as editing there would be "spam". Furthermore, I do not know about such a "local rule" here on Wikidata and I do not even know whether blocking an extension bot here would have any effect. Kind regards, Vogone talk 12:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you follow the link: Special:TranslatorSignup, there is an option to be "contacted on another wiki", so it does not only affect Wikidata. And there is, as far as I know, no problems to block Extension-bots. There where no problems with blocking the Babel-extension-bot, who flooded RC on almost every project. If an inactive user returns, (s)he can activate his/her subscription again, but he/she cannot remove any protection.

Me, personally, consider all these welcome-bots as spam as well, but that's me. With 8 user-accounts and 725 projects, there is a risk that I will have a welcome-message in 3700 pages. Some days, it feels like I have... -- Lavallen (block) 19:58, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I cannot follow your reasoning. The Translation Notification Bot here on Wikidata is the same as on Meta-Wiki. Same extension, even the same account. If a local wiki decides to ban this service it will automatically both, Meta-Wiki and Wikidata notifications. Furthermore, notifying interested translators is not welcoming users. I'm opposed to welcome bots as well, by the way. But that's a completely different topic. Regards, Vogone talk 20:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and if there is problems with the Meta-bot, then it is already a problem here. People who think they subscribe to such notifications will discover that they will have no notifications. -- Lavallen (block) 04:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Solution is very easy: don't block the account when it does what it's requested. --Nemo 12:04, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Users who do not behave according to the etiquette are blocked, what is so strange about that? Does the puppets of the developers have some kind of immunity? -- Lavallen (block) 12:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a user, it's a service. It's not the puppet of devs, it's the "puppet" of the users requesting the service. Are you saying that the inactive user who requested the notifications does not behave according to the etiquette? --Nemo 16:45, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, being inactive is not wrong, neither is it to forget to unsubscribe. But software-users (sometimes called bots) have to follow an etiquette. There is no exception for MediaWiki-bots in the bot-policy, at least not on svwp. It does not need to apply for permission since it's not editing in content-pages and only on user_talks requested by users. But it still has to behave in a civilised manner and not behave like a viagra-spamer. Follow the advise of Hannibal and fix the bugs in the extension! -- Lavallen (block) 18:43, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, this would not be a good idea. I am always receiving translation notifications on a wiki where I am de facto inactive. That would mean, I wouldn't be able to receive translation notifications where I, the subscriber, want to have them. Regards, Vogone talk 19:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another suggestion from Hannibal was to only send notifications to users who respond to the them. I think we, by now, have analized the issue here. We will not get any further in this thread. It wasn't me who blocked the user and I cannot unblock it, and I have no ability to modify the extension. And I do not think it helps to convince svwp to allow this behavior since there are > 700 other projects who can respond in the same manner. Several of these are more bureacratic against software-users than svwp. One reason I belive svwp responded in this manner is that there are other spambots who add messages to every villagepump on every project, nomatter if one single user on the project is concerned or not. Spambots can be a good tool, but they have to be used with care, otherwise they will be treated as a 'persona non grata'. -- Lavallen (block) 20:06, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, because some bots send unrequested notifications, you blocked a service that sends requested notifications. Brilliant! If you have suggestions, please do as Hannibal said and file them. In the meanwhile, don't disrupt the platform overriding software preferences of users just because you think they didn't know what they were doing. Thanks, Nemo 09:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Just a small note to Vogone) "To be honest, this would not be a good idea. I am always receiving translation notifications on a wiki where I am de facto inactive. That would mean, I wouldn't be able to receive translation notifications where I, the subscriber, want to have them." This was not my suggestion. My suggestion was that you would be totally inactive for, say, a year, on all Wikimedia wikis, before you get to re-subscribe if you want the service again. Also, these were not 3 alternative solutions, but steps to be taken one after another. "don't disrupt the platform overriding software preferences of users just because you think they didn't know what they were doing." is not what Lavallen et al are doing here. They are noting that inactive users are probably not remembering to un-subscribe to this service when life outside the Wikimedia projects take over, and that when the user later comes back to the project will find hundreds of old, out-of-date messages of low priority mixed with a few high-priority messages from persons. Please keep in mind that we all want to find a good solution to this situation. Best wishes//Hannibal (talk) 09:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True, your three proposals are not alternative. I'm sure people want to find a good solution, but blocks are only (at best) a workaround. We should also not ignore the active users... --Nemo 22:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean? I still trust You, and feel that the community does, too. --Ricordisamoa 22:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. Legoktm (talk) 23:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far, as I understand, I see that with edits [1] and [2] the record "Q6813432" ("Staff (military)") was merged into "Q495430" ("General staff") by Yamaha5 and deleted by you (Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2013/04/28#Q6813432). The problem is that the discussion Talk:Q495430 ([3]) clearly has a request to split the record (into "Staff" and "General staff")... Do you think that that split shouldn't have happened (in such case some explanation on that talk page would be appreciated) or could you, please, undo the merge..? I have already asked the opinion of the merger himself ([4]), but without a result (he probably missed the question, since his talk page is redirected - [5])...

And, on a related note (though, perhaps, the discussion should be held elsewhere), couldn't the deletions get better "documentation"? It took some effort (digging through contributions of the merger) to find out what record was merged and where the deletion "discussion" happened... Even then, "Moved to Q495430." and "✓ Deleted by Vogone" do not really tell me what happened (it's good that I still remember what record did I create) and why... --Martynas Patasius (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you undid the merge. Thank you. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 17:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vogone! :) Think you broke something in your update to RFP. The second block is all funny, and I can't figure out how to fix it. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 02:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does it look better for you now? Regards, Vogone talk 20:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat. RfRemoval still isn't centered for me, and RfOS is twice as wide as RfB. The whole second block is also a little bit wider than the first block. My computer has a fairly small screen, so if you're not seeing any problems that might have something to do with it. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 01:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having the same problems myself. Just an FYI. FrigidNinja 02:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should read the introduction of a page before administrating it. "Requests will be closed after 7 days, but may be extended if consensus is not reached." —★PοωερZ_talk 08:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, it's nice to meet you. You seem like a very knowledgeable editor, so I'll raise these two points here instead of creating another project chat thread.

First, the answer to question number 25 at Help:FAQ seems to be outdated.

Second, what is the Main type (GND) for something like this?

Regards, AutomaticStrikeout 21:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the flag. --Wylve (talk) 08:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I saw you revert my action, But I have a question, I know stward gets already autopatrol flags, but no need to get local flag? Regards.--DangSunM (talk) 18:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All stewards and global sysops have both permissions (autopatrolled and confirmed) automatically here. So there's no need to add them to these groups. Regards, Vogone talk 19:21, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What 'some actions outside of Wikidata' did you mean?--Ahonc (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mainly the long pointless discussion on the Base RFB for ukwikinews. But local work is more relevant for me. If you continue your good local work and become more active in the property creation process, I would grant you the permission. Regards, Vogone talk 15:19, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you do not give me status, can you create properties which I suggest?--Ahonc (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why? This is a wikidata policy and should be translated in many languages. --β₁₆ - (talk) 07:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't. It's just a draft which is not accepted by the community, yet (see Wikidata talk:Bots). Thus, a translation would be senseless. There will be many changes to the page in the future until it finally gets a policy. If you think translations of this outdated draft are still needed, you can still edit the subpages manually, without the extension. Regards, Vogone talk 12:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you're right, I haven't read here (no {{Tb}}). But, many policy proposals currently use this extension. In particular, this is not a controversial policy, infact in talk page in May there is only one edit, without any response, so accepted by those who follow this page. Before me three TA, including you, have already marked this page for translation, and one after. So I think the trend is to manage this page through the extension from now. --β₁₆ - (talk) 15:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. :-) I just don't feel managing a page which is going to be changed frequently through the extension is the best idea. If 1 point changes in the future, the whole translations for the related section have to be marked as invalid (= FuzzyBot will change the whole section back to English). So in my opinion, translating such proposals manually would cause less frustration for the translators. If it becomes a policy someday, the page will probably not be changed that often anymore, and using the extension would be more comfortable. Regards, Vogone talk 16:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thanks for the attention. You are right in the sense that I was not aware of the implications when I applied for translation adminship, but since I am the head translator for Macedonian (mk, македонски), I thought I ought to have it. On the other hand, I am still not sure what you mean, thouse help pages you mentioned aren't very helpful to me, for some reason. I have done a huge number of translations in Macedonian here, as you can see. If this adminshop means checking and proofreading, I am managing the states of the translations on regular basis too (in the upper left drop-down menu). Did you mean that an admin is supposed to dobe ticking something while proofreading? The thing is, I am the only translator for the language here, so maybe the system automatically approves my translations and I don't get the chance to use some functions (whatever they may be, for I can't really see them). Or perhaps I have misunderstood the whole concept? I am an admin on translatewiki.net and I've never had any issue akin to this one. As I said, perhaps I am in the dark about something. --B. Jankuloski (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Trust is no issue here. Your translation work is quite appreciated. Although, translationadminship is neither needed for checking translations, nor for proofreading. It is only for managing them. A translationadmin can tag a page for translation or remove it from the translation system. Furthermore, they have access to pages like Special:AggregateGroups. Especially with marking and removing pages from the translation system one can cause a big mess if one doesn't know how to do it properly. If you understand how these things work and you want to do them I would have no objections to keep the tools assigned to your account, as I still think you can be trusted. The only barrier is the understanding of the documentation. So it is up to you :-) Vogone talk 14:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Vogone! Du hast eben Q13217583 gelöscht. Ich verwende dieses Item um bei niederländischen stratigraphischen Einheiten die Datenbank der niederländischen geologischen Bundesanstalt zu zitieren (http://www.dinoloket.nl/). Mache ich da etwas falsch? --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sieht nach einem Fehler meinerseits aus. Ich habe es wiederhergestellt. Grüße, Vogone talk 21:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danke. Ich sollte vielleicht etwas mehr eintragen, damit es nicht so nackt ausschaut :). --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I just restored 2 items because it has linked [6], [7]. Regards--DangSunM (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your attention. Vogone talk 21:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Vogone. Can you check my request please? Thank you.--Calak (talk) 14:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done thanks for reminding me of this request. Vogone talk 17:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spas bra! (Danke bruder)--Calak (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

--Ricordisamoa 16:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! --DaniDF1995 22:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just saw this item deletion in my watchlist, but I have no clue of what it could be ... probably an item I created, but what ? TomT0m (talk) 00:33, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah Ok, it's used by this page. This is not a notability problem, it's a "Bonnie and clyde" problem. This character is a famous french literature character, but it ishis whole family who has got an article on Wikipedias. I did a short article on fr: who was deleted because of the Bonny and Clyde problem and because people are not used to Wikidata and wikipedia yet. But the item is still needed, so I say it meets the structural requirement criteria. TomT0m (talk) 00:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to intrude, but this deletion also strikes me as problematic. The item fulfills in fact both the structural requirement criteria and the references criteria. Thénardier is a very well-known character as such (and not only as a couple with Mrs Thenardier). I can easily find dozens of accurate sources establishing his main features. Alexander Doria (talk) 10:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see the problem and restored the item. Sorry for interrupting your work. Regards, Vogone talk 12:18, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks, maybe there should be a warning or some more precaution before deleting an item, like a check of what links here, but maybe the software is not totally ready yet for that. TomT0m (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Everything should be working now. Let me know if there's still a problem.Cyberpower678 (talk) 07:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of if you think my reaction was proper, consider this: if you don't want Wikidata to become like the English Wikipedia, then the people here need to stop dragging issues from the English Wikipedia over to Wikidata. Also, how would you react if someone brutally misrepresented something you had done and used it as a reason to oppose your RfA? I was hurt by PinkAmpersand's oppose because I couldn't really respond to it without raising old disputes that aren't even related to this site. However, I was even more upset by the final oppose because it completely misrepresented something I had done. Taking all of that into account, perhaps you can better understand why I've lost my enthusiasm for Wikidata. AutomaticStrikeout 21:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can fully understand you, and I'm also absolutely not a fan of issue dragging and drama lessons. Anyway, I also don't like if you leave a community just because 2-3 other community members don't agree with you or your actions. I think it is normal to have some people on any wiki who criticise you and your work, even me and my work, thus I hope you will calm a bit down and hopefully regain your enthusiasm for Wikidata after a short break. I know how such comments can hurt, but I think I've learned not to take them too personal. Vogone talk 21:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree with Vogone. ASO, I have two failed RfAs on the English Wikipedia, I've been called a hat collector by a global sysop, and I was once a topic banned user. And look at me. I have overcame all these issues and I have proved them, and most importantly, myself, that nothing anybody can say will ever hurt me again. I have grown stronger, and I am completely sure that you can do the same. Like I said on your RfA, I hate when users bring issues from other wikis to vote here, and I yell at them everytime they do so. However, as Vogone, I expect you to leave this in the past and keep up the good work :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 21:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix to (‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) ‎[move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite))). I am asked on IRC. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I added Proposal 10. That is abusefilter-log-private (not Abusefilter-view-private) for rollbackers.--GZWDer (talk) 04:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HI! Auf meiner Benutzersite https://www.wikidata.org/?curid=16717382# verwende ich

{{userboxtop
|align=right
{{User SUL Box|2=wikt|1=yi}}
|}
}}

Leider hat der link [8] heiute erstmals Ergebnisse angezeigt. Ich würde gerne auch http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Gangleri, http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/GangleriBot und http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/I18n anzeiden. Bei dewiki und dewikibooks wird der account von jemandem anders(t) benutzt.
Fragen:

1. Die Vorlage ist nicht korrekt eingebunden, da die Dokumentation fehlt. Kannst Du bitte die Seite korigieren.
2. Kann man die aliases einbinden?
3. Gibt es eine Zusammenführung von Gangleri und לערי ריינהארט? Wo bittet man darum?

Danke für die Hilfe! Gruß לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:23, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Entschuldige bitte die späte Antwort, aber ich bin leider nicht früher dazu gekommen, mir dein Problem anzuschauen.

1. Die Dokumentation zu der Volage habe ich importiert und den kleinen Klammerfehler bei der Einbindung dieser Vorlage auf deiner Benutzerseite behoben.
2. Hier weiß ich nicht genau was du meinst. Wenn du eine Anzeige von dem Präfix "wikt:yi:" vor deinem Benutzernamen meinst, geht das wohl nicht ohne Veränderungen an der Vorlage selbst.
3. Hierfür solltest du dich an m:SRSUL bzw. an m:SRUC wenden.

Grüße, Vogone talk 19:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History of this page should be merged to Wikidata:News/yue.--GZWDer (talk) 13:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Vogone talk 16:56, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cf. [[Main page]] There are incoming links to [[Main Page]] that need to be restored. Please do this. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix these incoming links then. Vogone talk 11:54, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What? They're incoming links from other projects which are generated from templates and assumptions about MediaWiki projects having a title named "Main Page". I can't fix all of them on every site. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:12, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We administrators have no possibility to create those redirects except if we use potentially damaging hacks. Vogone talk 17:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone. I like the colour of your signature. The light green and blue colour looks nice. Can you tell me what colour code for the two colours did you put for your signature? Thanks. JianhuiMobile (talk) (mobile account of Jianhui67) 17:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The colour codes are #0E0 and #1E90FF. Greetings, Vogone talk 17:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Look at my new signature now. Lol I wonder if people would think I am plagiarising your signature or not. My signature for my main account is way different from yours. Just have another question here, why can't I use restore, undo or rollback to revert some edits of new editors removing off sitelinks? When I use restore and undo, I get a whole paragraph of red error message. When I use rollback, it says rollback failed. Do you have any idea on this? JianhuiMobile ^talk 10:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could you show me an example where that happened, please? Vogone talk 14:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This diff is an example. Try reverting using restore, undo and rollback. JianhuiMobile ^talk 15:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Of course this is not possible since the editor has moved the link to another item (Q23602). A page cannot be connected to more than 1 item at the same time. Vogone talk 15:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh so that's the reason. I even thought that using rollback there will work. So this is how Wikidata works. 1 link per item. JianhuiMobile ^talk 15:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rather one item per link (page). --Base (talk) 22:02, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, just asking over here. This account have not even made 50 edits. Why did you remove my confirmed right saying it is redundant? JianhuiMobile ^talk 02:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Rollback is almost same with confirmed. DIfference is whether it has rollback button or not. both has "Autoconfirmed" and "Editsemiprotected", so having rollback only won't matter. --by Revi_TalkCMG at 03:30, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just have a look at Special:UserGroupRights and you'll see the redundancy. Vogone talk 17:06, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vogone, if you hate notifications for pings you can disable them in your preferences! Same with thanks ;-D Ajraddatz (Talk) 15:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Ajraddatz: Thank you very much for this important notice!!! ;-D Vogone talk 15:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hi Vogone, thanks fo changing mu user name here but in old name I'm a Auto-patrolled you can see this Requests for permissions, but in the new name I'm just Auto-confirmed if you can changing tell me--A.Latreche (talk) 06:36, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, this user group no longer exists on Wikidata. Vogone talk 15:05, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please mark it for translation.--GZWDer (talk) 10:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did already.--DangSunM (talk) 13:53, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource is coming in 1 week, on Tuesday, January 14! Preparations continue for the deployment at Wikidata:Wikisource.

We need your input in determining how Wikidata items will be created and used for each Wikisource page. Please join the discussion at Wikidata talk:Wikisource, and notify anyone who is interested in the discussion. --Rschen7754 08:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC) (using MassMessage)[reply]

Hi! Please see Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/לערי ריינהארט#renewing_this_request. Where the page should be located now? Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 11:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the request to Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/לערי ריינהארט 2.--GZWDer (talk) 12:05, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone,

I am planning to work on the project titled "Tools for mass migration of legacy translated wiki content" this summer under Google Summer of Code. I have drafted a proposal for the same over the past few weeks. This project is going to help the translation adminstrators like you in a great way, as it would completely automate the tedious manual task of preparing a page for translation and then importing the translations into the Translate extension. You can check the proposal page for detailed information on how I plan to accomplish this.

As you would be an end user of this tool, it would be great if you could go through the proposal and provide feedback/suggestions. Your feedback would definitely help me improve the proposal as well help in creating an even better tool. You can do the same on the discussion page of the proposal or reply here, whichever is convenient for you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thank you!

P.S: I need to submit the proposal to Google by March 19, 2014.

BPositive (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification about the inflation rate property. I have updated the G.E.M. taskforce property page. Feel free to make edits to the property page as you see fit. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Global_Economic_Map_task_force/Properties Mcnabber091 (talk) 20:03, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dear. Globally locking of the bot is related to this matter. My account was been hacked. Amir in his talk page in fa.wiki said maybe it happened because of security bugs on labs.--Abbas 10:36, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, if you believe there is a security bug, in a first place, you should report it on a bugzilla so that we know about it. Please include a steps to reproduce it or at least try to explain to us what the bug is and how do you think that it should be fixed. Thank you Petrb (talk) 11:13, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Petrb: Surely Amir can explain it better than me. As Amir said here users who has Shall access can read files of other users on Labs then maybe your password that been saved in a file maybe seen by others. I test this bug by myself. All files on Labs (With the exception of a very small number) are available & visible and editable for me.--Abbas 07:04, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IT IS NOT A BUG! YOU SHOULDN'T STORE YOUR PASSWORD IN A PYTHON FILE WITHOUT USING chmod TO MAKE IT UNREADABLE BY OTHERS Amir (talk) 07:48, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogne.

With this right I would like to help Wikidata mark pages for translation. I understand what this right does and have read this documentation. If you have any questions, please contact me. Akifumii (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for volunteering! Though, as there is no consensus on the request page to grant you this permission for now, I'd suggest you to reappy later. Kind regards, Vogone (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone. Thanks for the reply. I read somewhere that if you are "Autoconfirmed" here then you are also autopatrolled? Is that correct? Thanks. Akifumii (talk) 04:45, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is true. Vogone (talk) 18:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone.

I have requested Rollback rights through the Request for permissions page. Do you mind checking it when you have a chance? Thanks. Akifumii (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I now have become more active on Wikidata and almost have 200 edits in the mainspace. Do you think it would be a good time to request rollback now? I am strongly against vandalism and maybe have reverted 1 or 2 instances of vandalism here (I don't know for sure there isn't much vandalism here on Wikidata) I would like to use these rights to revert vandalism more quickly. Thanks. --Akifumii^Talk 23:57, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow.... has anyone ever mentioned how much of a Vogone you are???? Sloppel, Ajraddatz (talk) 19:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did I miss anything? Vogone (talk) 19:23, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow... :D Ajraddatz (talk) 17:25, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone!

I recently made a request for the translation admin permission here at Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Translation_administrator/Akifumii_(request_2) I believe I have transcluded this request wrong. Can you fix it for me, add it to your Watchlist, and review the request? Thanks so much! Akifumii^Talk 01:19, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hercule is still a global sysop. However, Stryn is no longer Ombudsmen.--GZWDer (talk) 09:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@GZWDer: Yes, and? Vogone (talk) 11:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please update it.--GZWDer (talk) 04:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done for Stryn, Hercule will be removed as a GS today thus I also won't readd him. Kind regards, Vogone (talk) 05:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vielen Dank für dein Vertrauen und die Verleihung der Rechte als Übersetzungsadministrator. --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 07:05, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikidatan,

Even though Wikidata phase 1 (replacing interlanguage by Wikidata) is officially finished, there are still a lot a duplicate items that should be merged. Projects to list possible duplicates (and therefore possibles mergers) have been started by users such as Pasleim with User:Pasleim/projectmerge and Ivan A. Krestinin with User:Ivan A. Krestinin/To merge. Those bot-generated lists do however contain quite some false positives and therefore still need a human eye to decide whether to merge or not.

Since you are an administrator on Wikidata with knowledge of the Lithuanian language, User:Ivan A. Krestinin/To merge/ltwiki might benefit from your help. As said, it lists couples of WD items that might possibly be merged. If you are already involved in these projects or not interested, I am sincerely sorry for bothering you.

With kind regards, FakirNL (talk) 23:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vogone, why do you constantly revert my changes on the merge gadget? It is so obvious that redirects should be created instead of reporting every merge at WD:RFD and we have to encourage our users to do so because there are still some of them who do not even know that redirects exist. Do you really want us to create another RFC if we should use redirects instead of deleting items? I bet not. ;-) So please lets encourage our users doing the right thing and perhaps even remove the RFD feature from the gadget completely in a few weeks. -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 17:09, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's in no way obvious before the feature is fully ready and of course there will always be cases in which we delete items, also after the transition is completed. And if you really want to "encourage" users to use the redirect feature instead, you should probably fix the description of the "Request deletion for extra item on RfD" part, though as already stated I wouldn't do that before the most obvious bugs are fixed. Changing the order of checkboxes alone won't help. Vogone (talk) 17:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So what are the most obvious bugs in your opinion which have to be solved? Are there any? -- Bene* ^t_a^l_k 18:54, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Salam. Vikidata idarəçiliyinə namizəd olduğum səsvermədə məni dəstəklədiyiniz üçün Sizə təşəkkür edirəm. Hörmətlə, --►Cekli829 06:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Vogone, I guess that this request can be closed? Lymantria (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. But for some reason I don't understand a steward (Snowolf) wants it to be closed by an "uninvolved bureaucrat", in case you find any, feel free to ask them. Regards, Vogone (talk) 12:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, as the result of the vote does not matter since TBloemink's admin rights have been taken away, I don't see why you couldn't close it. Lymantria (talk) 13:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC) P.S. As this statement suggests closing the discussions, to me closure seems non-controversial.[reply]

One could argue it does matter for future reference, as the WMF undertook the action independently from the RFP/R. So I'd prefer someone else to close it before I'm accused on IRC again about having a COI or even prejudices. Vogone (talk) 15:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Lymantria (talk) 18:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I didn't know that there is an inactivity policy concerning the flag (though it's rather good if it exist). You could have poked me first :) How can I return the flag - shall I run a RfP or you could just grant it back. I'm promising to show some activity ^_^. --Base (talk) 18:33, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, reassigned. I just regularly remove inactive TAs in order to make sure Special:UserList/translationadmin only contains active TAs so that someone looking there for a translation administrator will also find an active one. Vogone (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please add move rights to staff group. 2 staffs are not autoconfirmed, they are even not able to move pages once their admin bit revoked.--GZWDer (talk) 10:26, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, yes. Work is in progress. Regards, Vogone (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard --The Herald 12:21, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Even though the snowball clause may not be officially recognized on Wikidata, it is actually in use. Three different administrators closed RFAs under this clause in the past: [1], [2], [3], once even with less than two days of discussion. I know you're proud to be a crat and want to close as many RFAs as possible ;-) --Ricordisamoa 04:45, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any official response from "the worst vandal of all"? ;-) --Ricordisamoa 10:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course and sorry, I missed this. I oppose the snowball clause because it deprieves the RFA applicant in concern of the chance to recognise when an RFA is very unlikely to pass and when it may be appropriate to withdraw. This is an essential part of developing good judgment which should, in my opinion, not just be taken away by some enwiki snowball clause. Vogone (talk) 11:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think of that. It may be worth mentioning at Wikidata:Administrators and/or Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Header to prevent such mistakes in the future. Thank you, --Ricordisamoa 02:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know after a comment made by User:Ajraddatz on Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Reforming_administrator_inactivity_criteria I have added another option (50 mainspace / project edits & 5 admin/crat actions over 6 months). As you voted for 50 mainspace edits & 5 admin/crat actions over 6 months I thought you might like to know incase you are not watching the page and want to alter your comments / adjust which you prefer! ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 00:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm curious! Why did you remove the section! ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 11:45, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did not, just renamed and moved it. It's still there! Vogone (talk) 14:59, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mhhm, well, when you renamed it you did infact change it.. ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 11:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to change it back, but AFAIK project + mainspace is like everything, thus little diifference to just "edits" if at all, in my opinion. But as said, feel free to change the name back. Vogone (talk) 12:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Known spammer doing is xwiki spam H^akan·IST 07:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Q21855554

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.

In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 21:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page. Thank you so much for your participation. I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, 22:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Warning, Stop your Vandalism at proposal for deletion [11]. 178.222.74.146 22:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How is this vandalism? The page contains valid edits. --Vogone (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Either discussion on the META on subject (Igor Janev) was not relevant, or all these statements by editors protecting Igor Janev constituted false statements and nonsenses. You can have one or the other truth, not both in the same time. 178.222.74.146 22:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we suppress statements merely because they may be untrue. Furthermore, there were some neutral comments not involving an opinion on that page, too. I don't see any justification to delete this. Vogone (talk) --23:26, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone,

Thank you so much for your edits on Template:Outdated, I had never make a template translatable so I had many doubts. I'm interested in keeping updated the translations to Spanish and make translatable what it isn't translatable yet. So my question is, if I want to make translatable something (like a template), what should I do?

Should I do the changes that you did on the main template page and then create the Template:TEMPLATENAME/text with the <translate> tags and mark it? Can I mark a template to translate or is it only able to administrators?

Thanks in advance! I await your answer.

Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 10:00, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! In case you want to make a transcludable page like a template translatable, it is indeed better to move the content to a /text subpage and make that one translatable. For pages which are not to be transcluded (policy pages etc.) a /text subpage is usually not necessary. It might be helpful for you to read the MediaWiki documentation on this topic (as you already seem to have done a bit) and play around a bit with this tool on Test-Wikidata. You will need to ask for the "translation administrator" right over there, though. After you familiarised yourself with this tool I could grant you this permission also on the real Wikidata. Regards, --Vogone (talk) 18:18, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer! I will try to practice on Test-Wikidata and improve. I think there is so many important documentation that need translations yet, so it's a field with a lot of work ahead.

Agains, thank you for your help Vogone. Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 23:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanhercaz: Shall I ask someone to assign you the required user rights on Test-Wikidata? --Vogone (talk) 00:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All right! If someone assign me that user rights I will begin to practice tomorrow. Ivanhercaz | Discusión 00:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done. You can start your work. Thank you very much for volunteering! --Vogone (talk) 00:27, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you to you for your help and guidance! Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 11:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vogone, one thing more. When I consider that I'm familiarised, should I tell to you or what have I do? Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 15:32, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel ready, we can discuss about it at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Translation administrator. Just add your name there. Thanks for your help, --Vogone (talk) 15:34, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone!

I come to you because you already have helped me with the translations and the task of marking it to translate templates. I have been making templates and marking it to translate in test.wikidata. There is two main examples where I have worked: Template:Extracted from and Template:Translatable ―templates invented by me only to practise and not for apply in any wiki―. But I am having a problem with the template parameters, because when I use the template in a page, like in this case, and I set the parameters, it part appears in blank.

I already know how works the marking tool and how I should mark the template ―and another kind of pages―, but I don't want to request the translation administrator right before I solve it and I know why it isn't working fine.

Thanks in advance! I await your answer ―please, {{Ping}} me if you answer here to receive a notification―.

Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 12:08, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanhercaz: There were two minor errors[12]. The parameters need to be defined as well on the page which is actually being transcluded. Kind regards, --Vogone (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Thank you Vogone. I forget to change the template name to call from where I copy the structure, and the I didn't know that I have to call the parameters. I'm going to test something more and then I will request the rights. Regards, Ivanhercaz | Discusión 22:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Regarding the conversation on the bot's page, that conversation was just .. a little sad... admittadly, the person had a meltdown because he's a bit sensitive, but was it necessary to flat it say unreliable? I want to help this dispute but not get in the middle of this tough choices. Sheesh. egos are hard to fix. MechQuester (talk) 05:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think I did apologise there, but unfortunately Edoderoo is not willing to accept my apologies for the wording. I don't think there is much left which can be done. Kind regards, --Vogone (talk) 05:07, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, No worries. You had to do what you do to ensure compliance. I guess some people take things too personally. MechQuester (talk) 19:21, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Operator is unreliable is *not* what had to be done, and it ain't weird that *that* is taken personally. It will for *ever* be there for others to see in the block-log, so that shitty issue will now follow me for the rest of my life. Edoderoo (talk) 17:53, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I excused myself for that. I offered to change this blocking summary. You denied both. The wording may have been a mistake, but I cannot do anything about it as long as you are unwilling to forgive. Or if I can, please tell me what. --Vogone (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised that you still believe that I made a mistake, have to give you excuses, and you think you didn't do anything wrong. I'm am *not* going ever on my knees for you, what do you think? Edoderoo (talk) 21:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How does excusing for a mistake correlate with "think[ing] [I] didn't do anything wrong"? Where did I say "you have to give [me] excuses"? Please do not interpret things into my words which are not there. --Vogone (talk) 23:08, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, let's formulate it differently then: you expect all kind of actions from my side, but the only action I've seen from your side is expecting excuses, and excuses from your side that you didn't do anything wrong, and you do not see any reason to withdraw your harsh words any other then "maybe it's not so bad, but wtf". I only see a lonely sysop/crat that in the middle of the night makes weird decisions without any prior discussion, without any discussion, without any idea what's going on, referring back to a long time closed discussion that was not related. All week you've been asking me "to understand your position" but maybe you should also understand someone else's position. I am very very very disappointed in the burocrats on this wikidata-side, that seem to be lone wolves "fighting against evil" that is actually doing good edits. Edoderoo (talk) 08:50, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Again, where do I expect excuses? Is this a language barrier issue? --Vogone (talk) 09:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is the freakout show and personal agony over? so that we can continue adding to the project. MechQuester (talk) 07:44, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, I have a question. Regarding the request, would you have either way granted it or still closed it? Just a thought. Also, can I still use the account to make repetitive changes without a flag? thanks.

MechQuester (talk) 01:43, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard#Unauthorized_bot_at_Special:Contributions.2FMechQuesterBot.
--- Jura 17:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am personally coming to you for a bot request. Can you go to take a look? MechQuester (talk) 03:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been here for a while, but I recall Structured Wikiquote being discussed on IRC back when I was active. The test site on Wikilabs seems to be down/moved, so I was wondering if the project has been abandoned, or if it has been moved elsewhere. If it has been abandoned, then that'd be a damn shame, the project had/has a lot of potential. Cheers, --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) 10:16, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Caliburn: Hi Caliburn. There is indeed nobody working on this right now, but that doesn't mean the project has been abandoned. Currently, the focus seems to be on "Structured Commons". The technical infrastructure for this project might as well be suitable for Wikiquote to some significant extent, but of course it would need (volunteer) developers to work on this. --Vogone (talk) 00:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am pleased to see some lovely empty item deletions. Well done sir. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 05:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Vogone,

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Hallo Vogone,

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Vielen Dank, die Übersetzungskoordinatoren von Wikidata‎, 10:57, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Hallo Vogone,

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Vielen Dank, die Übersetzungskoordinatoren von Wikidata‎, 02:46, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

… at Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#Batch deletion tool? I think your batch deletion related to that discussion was a mistake that should be corrected quickly. Thanks, MisterSynergy (talk) 21:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Ratification vote of Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelinein currently taking place until March 21. If you didn't vote yet, please take a few minutes to participate the ratification vote! Your voice is important.

Best, —YKo (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sveiki, ar galėtumėte peržiūrėti mano užklausą Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Other rights? Norėčiau pildyti duomenis lietuvių kalba, bet kiti administratoriai net neatsakė. Ačiū. --Adamvs (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sveiki, dabar jau tapote „patvirtintu naudotoju“ ir galite pradėti pildyt duomenis apie Liudviką XV. ;-) --Vogone (talk) 21:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ačiū. Džiugu, kad galite atsakyti lietuviškai. Adamvs (talk) 21:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sveiki. Paminėjau Jus Vikipedijoje – Vikiduomenyse yra 31 491 atvejis, kur kažkam sumaišius latvių ir lietuvių kalbą, nurodytas aprašymas „vācu politiķis“. Ar galėtumėte tai pataisyti botu? Beveik visus būtų galima pakeisti į „vokiečių politikas“, bet kai kuriems toks aprašymas netiktų, todėl galimai reikia tiesiog ištrinti. Adamvs (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Atsakiau tenai. --Vogone (talk) 14:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Vogone,

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Vielen Dank, die Übersetzungskoordinatoren von Wikidata‎, 03:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Vogone, This message is just to warn you that as of April 1st your logged admin action count will be 4 in the 6 preceding months, unless you'll do some admin action before. Our inactivity policy requests at least 5 admin actions (incl. property creations) in 6 months. Kind redgards, Lymantria (talk) 11:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lymantria. I indeed struggled to maintain activity lately, maybe that means it was indeed time to let go. :-) --Vogone (talk) 11:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vogone, Sad, but thanks for the many good things you have done for the community. Let's hope you can maintain activity as an editor. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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