User talk:Daask

Hi. I need for you to familiarise yourself with this page and understand the differences of wikilinks to Wikisource for editions, and wikilinks to Wikipedia for concepts of the works. Thanks. Would like to have a conversation after that to see what has been done, and some fixing that will need to be undertaken.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:58, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@billinghurst: I have read the page. Can you elaborate on your concern? Daask (talk) 11:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Where we have an item for an edition, it would not normally be interwiki linked to Wikipedia article, and vice versa. Generally we would only have that dual linking where the wikipedia article is about a particular edition, eg. first edition article; or at Wikisource it a a disambiguation type page, typically a s:template:versions page; or where there is only one true version of a work that it wouldn't have editions. Also noting that WD items should not be to redirects.

So, something like tenets of Solon (Q88371211) would either be an edition—and have a link to the conceptual item of the work through the opposite properties of has edition or translation (P747) <-> edition or translation of (P629); or be the conceptual work. Here I have made it into the conceptual work, and created a versions page at enWS, especially as it is not a discreet page for the tenets where they are appear within a chapter of a work.

Yes, it is more problematic for WSians as the wikidata system is more designed for WPs easy work processes, and the WSians have compromises through how we do things to that model. I hope all of that makes sense.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Pls. see Talk:Q1899. Undo of all incorrect spelling added (Kiev) should be done to correct int spelling — Kyiv.--213.179.250.180 06:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hola usuario Daask:

Solicitaste un hablante nativo de español, y aquí estoy.

Relacionado con social education (Q17629812), entiendo que en español se debería poner lo que sigue:

Concepto similar a trabajo social, inclusión social, socialización y animación sociocultural.

Inexplicablemente, no puedo al menos hoy editar y publicar esto en Wikidata, pues tal vez yo mismo tuve una dificultad, intente resetear mi password pues no lo recuerdo, y ahora, mi laptop me impide modificar Q17629812. Favor usuario Daask, publica tu lo que puse arriba.

Mañana sábado, si el problema que ahora tengo se soluciona, tratare de hacer algo similar con social work (Q205398), School social work (Q777376), social inclusion (Q3149923), y sociocultural animation (Q696169).

Atentos saludos.

-- 167.61.123.187 19:52, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, me doy cuenta al firmar, que mi firma sale de otra forma, y por lo tanto, paso mis datos de otra forma, por si quieres consultarme algo.

-- Mi página de usuario en Meta:

• https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AnselmiJuan

-- Mi página de usuario en Wikipedia:

• https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:AnselmiJuan

-- Mi mail:

• anselmijuan2010@gmail.com

Quedo a tus deseos y necesidades, por si necesitas alguna otra cosa.

167.61.123.187 20:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AnselmiJuan: aka. 167.61.123.187 Gracias por responder a mi solicitud. No estoy buscando una traducción de la descripción actual en inglés. Más bien, busco una aclaración de este concepto, que se describe principalmente en fuentes en español. ¿Cuál es su relación con otros conceptos como social work (Q205398), school social work (Q777376), social inclusion (Q3149923), y sociocultural animation (Q696169)? Daask (talk) 22:48, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Regarding my removal of ancestors from Mariquita Platov (Q92593253), which you reverted: I believe these statements are redundant and unwarranted for direct lineal ancestors like grandparent or great grandparent. As the Ancestors tool shows, there are at least 4 ancestors that would qualify, and more if the family tree was completely replicated on Wikidata (in addition to cousins, second cousins, and other values of relative (P1038)). The property kinship to subject (P1039) has warnings suggesting it not be used for grandchild (Q3603531), etc., and I applied the same reasoning in reverse. So, that's my reasoning for removing sourced content. Cheers, -Animalparty (talk) 20:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Animalparty: If all the relationships were already adequately cited, I would agree that these more remote relations are redundant. However, many of the intermediate relationships are uncited, so I think it's valuable to have some citations rather than no citations to support the relationship. Daask (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean that a finding can be sometimes an inference, or a court judgement, or observation. Is there any property that is effectively 'in some cases' as a qualifier? Otherwise do you have any opinions on whether the item should be split? T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 02:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Daask,

I hope you are doing good,

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Kholoudsaa (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am waiting for your response here. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 09:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Daask,

I hope all is going well with you.

As per the last email I sent to you, I am still waiting for your response, and in case you have any comment or question, don't hesitate to ask me.

Thank you (talk) Kholoudsaa (talk) 15:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Daask, thank you for your interest. I have been careful in establishing the Nomenclature d'activités françaises in Wikidata, and I don't think there are duplicates around. The item Q112165919 is not, it describes a sous-classe, which is itself part of a classe. You may find more about the NAF here https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/fichier/2406147/guide_naf_cpf_rev_2.pdf but I'm afraid no English version is provided. Please don't make changes if you are not familiar with the subject. These items are used by many others. Maybe I could help you, what are you trying to achieve? Arpyia (talk) 20:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daask, for this edit, can you help me understand why you think the property was misused? I'd like to set its value to preferred normal rank again. Cheers, Jneubert (talk) 08:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jneubert: I haven't worked on 20th Century Press Archives (Q36948990) modeling on Wikidata, so I suspect you know better than I how it should be modeled. It's been a couple years, so I'm not entirely confident what I was thinking.

My first guess is that I thought this claim about PM20 folder ID (P4293) belonged on German Youth Movement (Q449819) (which it is also currently found on) and/or was bothered by a property constraint violation of some kind which made me think it belonged exclusively on that item. However, I copied the similar property PM20 subject code (P8484) from Youth movement (Q104699260) to youth movement (Q2967401).

I would greatly appreciate your help in cleaning up these items, and I don't believe I have edited these properties for any other items. Daask (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Daask, for the reconstruction of your thought process after such a long time! It helped me understand that and how the current data modeling may lead to confusion.

There is a project page about the data structure, but I will try to explain here in a nutshell: The Wikidata:WikiProject_20th_Century_Press_Archives aimed at linking all folders of the press archives to Wikidata. That was (structurally ...) quite straightforward for person and company/organization folders, because for each folder an according "real-world" item in Wikidata existed or could be created. The country-subject archive ("Sacharchiv" in German) however was organized by countries, and within these, by a sometimes artificial hierarchy of topics/classes as subdivisions for filing the paper clippings. So while "youth movement" is "real-world" (and has two according items in Wikidata - in general and in Germany), a lot of other topics, such as "Postal services, telegraphy and telephony", "Historical events 1900-1914" or "State borders with individual countries", only make sense in combination with a geographical scope and as a basket for collecting information.

That was the reason for creating items (of class PM20 country/subject folder (Q91257459)) for all of the about 9000 folders of the country-subject archive, using PM20 folder ID (P4293) in the same way as it was used for persons and companies. (The PM20 subject category (Q92707903) hierarchy using PM20 subject code (P8484) were only intended as a structural backbone for these folders.) The complete folder representation as items however lead to the property constraint violation you probably have experienced, in the all (currently 40) cases where according real-world items exist and are linked to press archives folders.

The constraint violation is indeed irritating. It could have been avoided by creating another property for the slightly different purpose, but in my feeling that would not have been appropriate due to the relatively small number of likely conflicts (and most probably would have created much more confusion). So I think about adding the known cases as exception to constraint (P2303) to the property definition. (Would require a periodical review, but I don't think that there will come much more.) -- Cheers, and thanks again, Jneubert (talk) 18:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Thomas Jones (Q113028110) has got many properties from Eric Todd Jones (Q107581220). This could be fixed.-- Jackie Bensberg (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Daask (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, an item that you have edited (and you are the only non-bot editor) is considered empty and will be deleted in 72 hours if it doesn't improve. Your automated cleaner, Dexbot (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got confused with ResearcherID (P1053) which was wrong — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks! Daask (talk) 12:39, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I removed the described at URL (P973) links you re-added from Mike Sharman (Q117842463) (railway modeller, died 2019) as they are actually about a different Mike Sharman, namely Mike Sharman (Q120805519) (engineer, died 2013). Confusingly they were both railway enthusiasts. LittleDwangs (talk) 17:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Daask,

I hope you are doing well,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I am working on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender model that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our model based on your previous edits.

Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published in a research venue.

The experiment should take no more than 15 minutes, and it will be held next week.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfA1wfdBfCRlcG3WhDyc-V8lzgPNx3fDFCNXkyn4CSwahXZ_A/viewform?usp=sf_link Then, I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about my project, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa

In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards Kholoudsaa (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daask, could you explain the basis for your addition of the statements for spouse, residence, and two social media accounts for Andrei Korikov (Q47471206). Specifically, was it based solely on the rower's name and the country of citizenship or birth? Thanks. -- DCflyer* (talk) 13:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]