Wikidata:Property proposal/agent of action & agent class of action & agents of action have role
agent of action & agent class of action & agents of action have role
[edit]agent of action (aliases: agent | actor)
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | particular item that initiates this action or class of actions |
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Represents | agent (Q392648), actor (Q23894381) |
Data type | Item |
Example 1 | German December 16 suprise attack in the Battle of the Bulge (Q116504918)agent of actionArmy Group B (Q157572) Source |
Example 2 | Opening of Tokyo 2020 games (Q116504974)agent of actionNaruhito (Q217096) Source |
Example 3 | Johann Philipp Reis demonstration of the Reis telephone to the Physical Society of Frankfurt (Q116504999)agent of actionJohann Philipp Reis (Q77124) Source |
Example 4 | (as qualifier) Lilienthal Memorial (Q116608846)significant event (P793)reconstruction (Q2478058) |
See also | of (P642), object of occurrence (P12912), object class of occurrence (P12913), objects of action have role (proposed), has cause (P828) |
agent class of action (aliases: agent class | actor class | agent selectional preference | agent selectional restriction )
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | class of items that may initiate this action or class of actions |
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Represents | agent (Q392648), actor (Q23894381) |
Data type | Item |
Example 1 | crime (Q83267)agent class of actionhuman (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) |
Example 2 | competition (Q841654)agent class of actionhuman (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) |
Example 3 | telephone call (Q2296401)agent class of actionhuman (Q5), auto dialer (Q2872595) |
agents of action have role (aliases: role of agents of action | agents have role | actors have role )
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | role that agents of this action take on in the context of this action |
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Represents | semantic role (Q117747915) of agent (Q392648) |
Data type | Item |
Example 1 | crime (Q83267)agent of action have rolecriminal (Q2159907) |
Example 2 | competition (Q841654)agent of action have rolecontestant (Q5165152) |
Example 3 | telephone call (Q2296401)agent of action have rolecaller (Q113293705) |
Motivation
[edit]Needed to express information about agents of actions. Resolves concerns raised on previous proposal here. The three properties proposed here are exactly analogous to object of occurrence (P12912), object class of occurrence (P12913), and objects of action have role (proposed), respectively:
- "agent of action" identifies the particular entity responsible for the subject action or class of actions
- "agent class of action" identifies the fixed class(es) of entities that may act as agents of the subject action or class of actions (i.e., selectional preference (Q124051768))
- "agents of action have role" identifies non-fixed role(s) that agents take on in the context of the subject action or class of actions
All three properties are to be usable as both main statement properties and as qualifiers. A major initial use of these properties will be migration of statements using the set-to-be-deprecated qualifier of (P642).
All three properties are effectively sub-properties of has cause (P828) (which does not differentiate between particular causes, classes of causes, and context-specific roles of causes). – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Swpb (talk • contribs) at 19:55, August 27, 2024 (UTC).
Discussion
[edit]- Support The examples for class vs role are helpful in understanding why we need to separate them. All humans on Wikidata are only instances of human (Q5). Aliases like "done by", "done by class", and "done by role" should be used too. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 00:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Swpb, Wd-Ryan: Done as agents of action have role (P12993), agent class of action (P12994), and agent of action (P12995). Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 19:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Swpb (talk) 20:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lectrician1: Your ideas have come to fruition! Excited to use these important properties. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 23:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)