Wikidata:Property proposal/Dynasty
Dynasty
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | A dynasty is a sequence of rulers from the same family, usually in the context of a monarchy or imperial system but sometimes also appearing in republics. A dynasty can be used to describe the time period in which a person lived, an event happened, a work was created, or a place existed. |
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Data type | Item |
Example 1 | Liang Chi-chao (Q379836)dynastyQing dynasty (Q8733) |
Example 2 | Handan County (Q1196634)dynastyQin dynasty (Q7183) |
Example 3 | Bringing in the Wine (Q14918677)dynastyTang dynasty (Q9683) |
Planned use | We will add dynasty property to the on-going Chinese poets and historical places projects. |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Chinese Culture and Heritage (Q116889971) |
Motivation
[edit]A dynasty is a sequence of rulers from the same family, usually in the context of a monarchy or imperial system, but sometimes also appearing in republics. These rulers typically inherit their position, and the dynasty continues through hereditary succession. Different countries throughout history have had dynasties ruling over them. Some famous examples include China, Egypt, Persia (Iran), and England. While there are some similar properties in Wikidata, such as time period (P2348) and country (P17), there are differences between the concept of a dynasty and these properties. Dynasties can rule over countries during specific time periods, but they are not synonymous with either time periods or countries. Allowing this property to be added to Wikidata would enhance the platform's ability to accurately represent historical and cultural data, facilitating comprehensive research and analysis across various domains. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gretaheng18 (talk • contribs) at 15:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
Discussion
[edit]- Comment Wouldn't the same relationship be better specified by statements regarding the dates associated with the people, places, etc.? Presumably there are many places and some people for whom more than one dynasty would be a valid statement, how would you handle that? ArthurPSmith (talk) 00:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose As ArthurPSmith said, we can already know what was the ruling dynasty just comparing the dates. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 20:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment A lot depends on whether dynasties are effective historical country (Q3024240) for China etc, in which csse country (P17) and its variants is better. Do dynastics have defined boundaries or are they family groups or historical periods? Vicarage (talk)±
- Oppose Dynasty is treated just like a historical country in Wikidata. Midleading (talk) 04:04, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done no consensus for creation. --Wüstenspringmaus talk 11:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)