Property talk:P6684

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first attested from
to indicate the first known usage of a word
Data typeItem
DomainLexeme (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesmembers of subclasses of intellectual work (Q15621286)? (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example
According to statements in the property:
no label (L40594)Lisa the Iconoclast (Q2982249)
no label (L2898-S1)A schematic model of baryons and mesons (Q54006342)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
See alsonamed by (P3938), inception (P571), derived from lexeme (P5191), time of earliest written record (P1249), attested in (P5323)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total37
Main statement3594.6% of uses
Qualifier25.4% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Value type “creative work (Q17537576), written work (Q47461344), version, edition or translation (Q3331189): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value creative work (Q17537576), written work (Q47461344), version, edition or translation (Q3331189) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6684#Value type Q17537576, Q47461344, Q3331189, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase lexeme (Q51885771), Wikibase form (Q54285143), Wikibase sense (Q54285715): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6684#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P6684#Scope, SPARQL

Qualifiers to indicate the search methodology

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"First attested" may be set by references, but I could imaging that these references do not exist. Consider the Danish lexeme klimatosse (L47364): I do not find it in dictionaries, but I can search various sources, e.g., newspaper websites which could indicate that this lexeme was first used in 2007. This method may certainly be deemed questionable, so I wonder if we have a good property-value pair for a qualifier that could indicate the possible tentative nature of the claim, — or perhaps an opinion about whether we should refrain from such a search method for establishing a value for the property. I note that the property has not been used very much. I see "5" current uses now. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 07:58, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

what if only the time is known from a source

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@Circeus: in cases like listicle merriam webster unfortunately does not state the exact source of the first known use. only the year. I modeled this with unknown value and point in time (P585). Do you have a better idea how to do it? –Shisma (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]