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| items = Q3707858/Q13175754/Q12041019/Q3546082
| status = resolved
| discussion = nomenclature type / in zoology / in botany / type specimen. [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|talk]]) 09:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
}}

This ruwiki page is somewhat odd. At first this looks like something that should be merged with {{Q|3707858}}, but on deeper look (with the help of Google Translate) this turns out to list the differenbt categories of type specimens, and the structure at ru: seems to be that this is essentially a subpage of their [[:ru:Номенклатурный тип]] page. [[User:Circeus|Circeus]] ([[User talk:Circeus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:53, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

{{Ping|Brya}} I don't understand your last edits, can you explain ? <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;">&nbsp;[[User:TomT0m|TomT0m]] / </span>talk [[User talk:TomT0m|page]]</span> 19:19, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

::I don't see what is to explain. The ruwiki page is "random list of terms used in biology". It is not a subpage of anything, but stands on it own. Let's just hope nobody translates it. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
::: {{Ping|Brya}} Then your {{instance of}} statement does not mean anything and is incorrect. Please don't use it as a wp category. Can you for sure know it's not a list of types as we thought ? <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;">&nbsp;[[User:TomT0m|TomT0m]] / </span>talk [[User talk:TomT0m|page]]</span> 19:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

:::::It is perfecty clear that the ruwiki page is a "random list of terms used in biology". - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
:::::: If you don't speak Russian, please don't say nonsense. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::: Could please you explain why "Типовы́е экземпля́ры" is using {{Q|146786}}? --[[User:Succu|Succu]] ([[User talk:Succu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::::: Good punch (could be). May be it's not consistent. I suppose it is because it describes different types of this class. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
::::::@Infovarius: If you don't have any knowledge of the topic, please don't speak nonsense. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:59, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

== content of the ru article ==
{{Ping|Infovarius|Ivan A. Krestinin}} Can you say more about the content of the page ? <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;">&nbsp;[[User:TomT0m|TomT0m]] / </span>talk [[User talk:TomT0m|page]]</span> 19:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
: {{Q|3546082}} is about instance/sample of organism that was saved and used for the first taxon description. For example sample from herbarium. The article describes different types of such samples and terminology. — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 20:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
: I don't agree with changes which have done this item a list. Ru-article is not a list. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
: It is subclass of {{Q|3707858}} used for species rank and below. {{Ping|Brya}}, "random"?? --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:01, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
:::See above. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:28, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
:::: See above, but there is no useful information. All info is in this section. Before your replica. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
::I agree it is not a typical list, but it is not clear what the exact relationship with Номенклатурный тип is. Both pages contain quite good points, as well as obviously untrue points. However, it is clear that this page does list terms, and that these terms have no particular relationship with type specimens. 
::&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If it is desirable to have more than one page, it would make most sense to have separate pages on 'botany' and zoology. - [[User:Brya|Brya]] ([[User talk:Brya|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
::: As you can see in [[:ru:Номенклатурный тип]], {{Q|3707858}} can be {{Q|3546082}} (for species and below), {{Q|252730}} (for genus), {{Q|842832}} (for family) and some others. All items which you are editwarring are of the first class as they are some thing on which species description can be based. --[[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:05, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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