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Country-musicians *raised* in 'a state of the United States'

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There were some
"List of country musicians from 'state in the United States']],
that were deleted some years ago.--Those, and List of country musicians from California, have little interest, to me.
("Never-ending" discussions about the meaning of 'from', is not my cup of tea.) However,
List of country musicians raised in Texas,
is a list that i might start.--If a person was raised in two or more states, then I am fine with just having that person in "Related pages", or (much less likely) section "Raised in different states".

List of country musicians from California, has some names that 'could end up on two lists'.--However, I am not planning on starting,
"List of country musicians raised in California".--Is there anything more to say then, except: if there are too many protests about "my" list, then it will get taken to AfD?--Remember also to give thanks to those who do a lot of work with categories. 2001:2020:341:DA4B:F071:D4FE:8575:D928 (talk) 23:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kris Kristofferson (d. 2024), has 'always' been on the 'California list' (because he was raised there).--When any 'Texas list' gets created - then how does one avoid him being 'Listed on two similar lists'?

The following could be mentioned on 'the (upcoming) Texas list',

"* Kris Kristoffersen [not blue-linked]" ,see List of country musicians raised in California"

In that way, Kristoffersen 'is only on one list (California)' (and the few people that know that Kristoffersen was born in Texas, will find his name, and see which 'one list that Kristoffersen really belongs to'. Note: there is no list here called, "List of ... born in California").

"Raised in California", is part of topic "From Californa". (Would anyone argue "No", to that point?) 2001:2020:355:C958:1431:DC72:A783:3460 (talk) 02:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC) / 02:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC) /2001:2020:341:DA4B:F071:D4FE:8575:D928[reply]

List of country musicians from Texas.

Please move this discussion to the talk pages about those article. (As long as the above link, remains a blue-link.) 2001:2020:355:C958:844A:668F:EAB3:62AA (talk) 03:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lists like this should list where they were born. fr33kman 05:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
we already have enough problems with '... from ...', what does it mean that someone is 'from California', 'From Mexico', etc? - Were peopel born there, were these places impoerant for their carrers, did they spend a lot of time there? - Also, at what age does 'raised stop'? . 12, 14, 18, 21, 25? No need for an extra classification. Eptalon (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of country musicians from Texas, seems to not have "your" concerns/problems.--If you think that the article should be deleted, then you might want to nominate it for Delete.--If you have an example of anyone who is on the wrong list, then i suggest that you take up the matter on the talk page of 'musicians from that state'.--One person should only be linked from one list (and I can not see any problem yet, now that Kristoffersen seems to 'be on only one page'). 2001:2020:341:B0D8:49A7:52CE:A985:441A (talk) 04:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any benefits to change things to other than there are now. fr33kman 06:03, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would be a benifit that we get things right, in regard to cases such as

this composer of Take It Easy, so that they do not get passed off as a European country-musician (or German, since he was born there, but raised in California).--En-wiki has gotten the category right, i feel.--The way that (relevant) articles, are today - seems largely okay.--Time to let this thread, Just Fade Away. 2001:2020:333:C6E5:83A:C472:2680:1408 (talk) 19:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC) /2001:2020:341:B0D8:49A7:52CE:A985:441A[reply]

Request

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Can I talk to somebody on here privately? It's about a falling out I had with several admins and editors on enwiki that got me blocked indefinitely and I'm  not discussing this on there for reasons I'm not gonna go into. 121.136.126.163 (talk) 20:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to write me a mail, I am open to discussion. Eptalon (talk) 23:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's about a group of users and admins attacking/insulting me and blocking me on enwiki 210.217.117.24 (talk) 20:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are not here to comment of enwiki's problems with thier users. They don't comment on our issues, we don't generally comment of their issues. Please email their admins mailing list instead of trying to get us to help you fight your case. fr33kman 21:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The admins are not going to respond on any of the mailing lists
I wouldn't be coming to this page for help if they were responding to me 2601:C8:280:8000:747A:CFD:7DF7:7978 (talk) 21:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator note: /64 is globally blocked as LTA. MathXplore (talk) 22:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Talk about a proxy chain.- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 06:44, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fr33kman:? 178.234.79.192 (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are not interested in helping you fight your case on enwiki. You are disruptong this project and are now under the WP: ONESTRIKE rule. fr33kman 23:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator note: This IP is also a blocked proxy. MathXplore (talk) 01:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can called them indefinitely blocked here also. fr33kman 06:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator note: Special:Contributions/210.217.117.24 is another blocked proxy. MathXplore (talk) 23:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator note: The IP editor is a blocked proxy. MathXplore (talk) 00:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, at last someone who notices. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 05:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
\: .- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 09:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject

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Hi, I made a WikiProject called WikiProject Games. You can join if you want! Thetree284 (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject has been renamed from Gaming to Games because I want to include board games too. Thetree284 (talk) 03:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new pages in this WikiProject are: Sorry! (game) and Trouble (board game). Thetree284 (talk) 23:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic archiving for WP:RFCU

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Hello all, the requests at WP:RFCU usually get handled fairly quickly. I would therefore propose we set up the bot to also archive them automatically; proposed parameters: 10d old, min 2 threads left. Comments? Eptalon (talk) 08:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Related previous discussion can be seen at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser#Archiving. MathXplore (talk) 00:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering how RfCU works, I would want to see the bot be tested in a RfCU replica before firmly saying yay or nay.- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 10:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pure Evil offered a reasonable point at Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser#Archiving 2. I feel like it is probably best for CUs to manually review each one prior to it going to the archived, as responses can often go unanswered - and I appreciate sometimes this is on purpose. --Ferien (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Idk, I'm 50:50 on this one. It'd be nice to have them auto archived due to workload issues but understand the issues of wanting to manually close them out. I'd lean towards a bot if it could be made to work. fr33kman 18:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i think the bot handling the other page archiving could be made to work. It would archive discussions that haven't Bern touched in .. days, leaving at least ... Items on the page? Eptalon (talk) 19:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would leave it to the people with the checkuser right to decide, but I have a question. Is there an amount of time an unaddressed request can be left, after which either it is considered stale or the checkusers wouldn't do anything with it? I would let that be the number of days old to use for archiving. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-checkuser observation) @Auntof6: m:CheckUser_policy#CheckUser_status says information is only stored for a short period (currently 90 days), so I think this is the time limit. MathXplore (talk) 07:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As to the data availability: requests need to be made fairly quickly, information that is older than about three months is deleted. As you requests: I would guess s bot could (technically) handle archiving old requests.... Eptalon (talk) 23:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

┌─────────────────────────────────┘
 I found C:User:SpBot/How to make SpBot archive your wiki that looks like it could help with this. A note on C:Commons talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology, which the bot archives, says that it archives 1) any section tagged as resolved and 2) any section whose most recent comment is older than 90 days. Of course, maybe our usual archiving bot can do the same thing. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Langx

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I was expanding features on {{Langx}}. To import data from en:Module:Lang, in order to work properly for Module:Lang/langx.

Also:

49.150.3.189 (talk) 14:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you are making a request here, please be specific about what you want done. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 11:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone have admin requests for expanding Module:Lang for {{Langx}}? 49.150.11.37 (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but you were told to be specific with what you want doing. We not mind readers. fr33kman 01:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comprehensively, from lines 1,400 to 1,424 on English Wikipedia, by using local function _langx (args_t), an entry point from another module.
Following this, the exact source code from en:Module:Lang on English Wikipedia for {{Langx}} to be added to Module:Lang on Simple English Wikipedia:
local function _langx (args_t)
local langx_data = mw.loadData ('Module:Lang/langx'); -- get necessary data
local inherit_t = langx_data.inherit_t; -- get list of language tags extracted from Template:Lang-?? template names for languages that are rendered in upright font
local rtl_t = langx_data.rtl_t; -- get list of language tags for languages that are rendered right-to-left
local script_t = langx_data.script_t; -- get list of language tags for Template:Lang-?? templates that set |script=<something>
local link_t = langx_data.link_t; -- get list of language tags for Template:Lang-?? templates that set |link=<something>
local size_t = langx_data.size_t; -- get list of language tags for Template:Lang-?? templates that set |size=<something>
args_t.code = args_t[1] or args_t.code; -- get the language tag; must be {{{1}}} or |code=
if not args_t.code then
return make_error_msg ('missing language tag', args_t, 'Langx');
end
args_t.rtl = args_t.rtl or (rtl_t[args_t.code] and 'yes'); -- prefer |rtl= in template call, use rtl_t else
args_t.script = args_t.script or script_t[args_t.code]; -- prefer |script= in template call, use script_t else
args_t.link = args_t.link or link_t[args_t.code]; -- prefer |link= in template call, use link_t felse
args_t.size = args_t.size or size_t[args_t.code]; -- prefer |size= in template call, use size_t else
args_t[1] = nil; -- unset to mimic Template:Lang-?? templates which set |code=xx
local lang_subtag = args_t.code; -- use only the base language subtag for unsupported tag test; some args_t.code are modified by |script= etc
initial_style_state = inherit_t[args_t.code:lower()] and 'inherit' or 'italic'; -- if listed in inherit_t, set as 'inherit'; 'italic' else
return _lang_xx (args_t, 'Langx') .. ((langx_data.unsupported_t[lang_subtag:lower()] and ''.. lang_subtag .. '') or ); -- temporary category for unsupported language tags
-- return _lang_xx (args_t, 'Langx');
end 49.150.11.37 (talk) 22:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As an error, it displays Script error: The function "langx" does not exist. 49.150.11.37 (talk) 22:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical cyclone

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Is it better to just have one article for tropical cyclone, or should there be separate articles depending on where they happen, such as typhoon (in the northwestern Pacific) and hurricane (in the eastern Pacific and Atlantic)? Batrachoseps (talk) 18:44, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should match en and have it so tropical cyclone contains the main details, but they are also branched off into Atlantic hurricane and typhoon. Hurricane in its current state should be redirected to the tropical cyclone article, imo. --Ferien (talk) 18:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates for discussion

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I came across the following navbox templates that I would like a discussion on.

These templates:

  • Have a large number of links, mostly red but some with a fair number of blue
  • Are all clothing-related
  • Are transcluded on one page (the historical clothing one) or no pages
  • Except for the historical clothing one, were created by a user who appeared to be creating templates because they appeared in wanted templates. However, the only places that used them were lists of related templates on template doc pages.

I was about to start adding these to the blue-linked pages, but I thought it was worth discussing first. The reason I am putting these up for discussion is that they would take up more space in an article than the article text on most of the articles that are blue-linked. Are we okay with having navboxes that overwhelm the body of an article?

There are probably more templates with the same issue, but this is a small group of related ones that I happened to see around the same time.

Please do not add these to articles until we have a chance to have this discussion, so that that we won't have to remove them again later. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 12:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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In many articles, some words are linked with English Wikipedia like this: [[:en:Article name|Article]]. Should the English Wikipedia link be used, or should it only be linked to this Wikipedia article, even if the article is missing here? CosmLearner (talk) contribs 21:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There should not be that kind of link to any other Wikipedia. In fact, there shouldn't be links in an article's text to any other website. The link should be left red if there's nothing to link to here. See WP:ELPOINTS for the guideline. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But you can use {{ill}} to make a red link to simplewiki and a link to another wiki at the same time. Batrachoseps (talk) 23:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Batrachoseps: You can, but that's kind of messy. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question

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Here's a weird question, for example, if an article on Simple English Wikipedia is created with good grammar, formatting, and spelling, but it's much shorter than the English Wikipedia article, how can it still become a good article or a very good article? Bakhos Let's talk! 04:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are minimal length requirements, bit they are fluffy. VGAs need to be comprehensive, which likely means they end up at a certain length. Why don't you nominate the article when you think it is ready? The people active at reviewing will give ideas as to how to improve it. Eptalon (talk) 07:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Aviation biofuel" (and little else in the first sentence of the lede)

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"An aviation biofuel (also known as bio-jet fuel or bio-aviation fuel (BAF)) is a biofuel used to power aircraft and is a sustainable aviation fuel (SAF)", according to

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_biofuel

.That is the lede of an article at En-wiki.--"My" (upcoming) article will aim to not have sustainable aviation fuel in the first sentence (or first period) of the lede. Does "maintaining simplicity" seem like an okay reason to move sustainable aviation fuel, out of the first sentence, in our (upcoming) article? 2001:2020:323:DB8F:59DB:9960:C6EE:17E1 (talk) 16:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation biofuel, now has a Talk page.--Discussion moved to that (relevant) Talk page. 2001:2020:323:DB8F:59DB:9960:C6EE:17E1 (talk) 16:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary results of the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections

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Hello all,

Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election. Close to 6000 community members from more than 180 wiki projects have voted.

The following four candidates were the most voted:

  1. Christel Steigenberger
  2. Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz
  3. Victoria Doronina
  4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the vote, they still need to be appointed to the Board of Trustees. They need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. New trustees will be appointed at the next Board meeting in December 2024.

Learn more about the results on Meta-Wiki.

Best regards,

The Elections Committee and Board Selection Working Group


MPossoupe_(WMF) 08:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mod vandalising my articles again

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He's previously mass-deleted my content before, and whenever things don't go his way he just changes the narrative. He's simply just abusing his power and removing all of my content specifically, and deleting massive amounts of information from the website. That's why I think he is wrong - Wikipedia is a place for information, and that means all of it. I will do my best to link the parts of my talk page where he has commented, both today and in the past (wherein he deleted massive amounts of content from the website).

Any undo to his edits and he instantly reverts it, removing this content and giving the reason that it is 'nonsense' in his opinion.

Here are the links I will try to paste where hopefully you can see that it is repetitive and targeted deletions: https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:W;ChangingUsername&action=edit&section=11 https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:W;ChangingUsername&action=edit&section=9

He doesn't or can't warn me 'as per' en:WP:DTTR in either because there's no grounds for it. He is only allowed because of his position, over me, which shouldn't matter in the context of putting information on this site. In another simple_talk entry, he deletes a ton of other content en-mass and throughout nearly all of the articles I have pasted from the NHS website to here.

If this goes through then I will work on putting the pages back as I come across them (and I will hopefully be able to create more, so that simple_wikipedia is more full (which is what it should be about!) but (again) if this goes through then it would be probably best for someone with the ability to scan through mass content and correcting his actions to do it, because it is on a lot of the site throughout the content, and I believe it is vandalism.


Tagging the user other so that he may be present: @Davey2010 W;ChangingUsername (talk) 15:26, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Eptalon was my helper, I think. And I would like to point out that a majority of the pages I've created thus far have been categorized on the external wikilinks page, for simple_wikipedia, and that the information in the pages have been deleted, but previously would of been a link to this website with a more full page. And that way might be the only way for the person there to get it - but now, it is gone
His contributions are Thomas the Tank Engine and Paw Patrol, and some really bad / low quality page on lymes disease and/or I think strokes, which didn't, and still don't (because he reverts all edits done to the page) in my opinion meet Wikipedias standards in a few ways. That and of course removing tons of content from the site.
There is nothing wrong with the content on those pages, and here I am contesting - specifically or as an example - and would like to contest this decision of this 'insane' edit the page of course being Cinnarizine.
There is NO content on this page anymore, after his edits - look at how many he cut out, and look at how much there is now. Does THIS still meet the standards, and is it a better page now than it was before? His edits are simply not good. W;ChangingUsername (talk) 15:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1). I'm not a mod or an admin and I've never said otherwise.
2). "I have pasted from the NHS website to here." ... which is a Copyright violation and isn't allowed,
3). There was consensus here to delete the GUIDE stuff you spammed everywhere.
4). I stated here "No consensus for these edits, Why would you reinstate content that had consensus to be deleted (at the prev editsum)?" so why would you ignore that and post the same content back 3 months later?,
5). The DTTR was me treating you with respect and not templating you to death - I hate when people do this to me so I was trying to be more polite and approachable to you so your "because there's no grounds for it" is ludicrous and silly.
6). Have you actually looked at the issues at Thomas the Tank Engine and Paw Patrol ? ... If you had you would've known those articles have been magnets for either deliberately fake information or unsourced edits, I don't revert people for the sake of it believe you me.
7). You can contest my blanking as much as you like but my edits/blanking was following our core policy; WP:COPYVIO as well as following the consensus for removing this content here. –Davey2010Talk 15:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, W;ChangingUsername. I highly doubt Davey2010 was vandalising. First, there needs to be consensus about the part that you're trying to put in. Also, simply removing some parts of an article isn't vandalism unless it's removing helpful edits to Wikipedia. In this case, it's not vandalism. Also, this article still does meet the standards; it's just a stub and can be gradually worked on. Thanks, Aster🪻 talk edits 15:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you really feel this way then I would like to resolve the issues you have with me or my content before I proceed to edit in more pages to the website, so that this doesn't keep happening (because right now I feel like it will)

I think the page follows rules, and if the rules disagree with that then maybe they are wrong, and should be challenged, to allow that content. That is for something to be there until people can work on it, so they can work off that instead of working off it being a stub.


And there was consensus. There was a discussion about that and a lot of people agreed, but I didn't see (outside of the original responder) the outcome of the discussion, but people supported it. I would like to know. W;ChangingUsername (talk) 15:50, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@W;ChangingUsername, It doesn't follow any rules because you've taken the content from https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/cinnarizine/side-effects-of-cinnarizine/ which is obviously a copyright violation and isn't allowed.
Auntof6 is an admin and is extremely knowledgeable with policies here and they supported the removal of the content, Yes another editor supported leaving it but that's all moot now because you've admitted it was a copyright violation,
That all being said en:Cinnarizine has Side Effects in sentence form so I'd be happy for side effects to be included back HOWEVER don't just undo and readd that content back as you've taken it from the NHS - You need to reword it and jumble these up if that makes sense. –Davey2010Talk 16:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So I can add a section for 'side effects?'
And the content on that website is free to use and share. There's no copyright on the website other than what should be 'free use' and could be added to Wikipedia alongside the other content which is taken from the same website? @Auntof6
And at the same time, I can go ahead and add more to Wikipedia, but not copyright content. Or rewriting the content as I do (which I wanted to avoid, to not un-simplify it) W;ChangingUsername (talk) 16:27, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep you could add a list of side effects providing it's reliably sourced, You cannot use any of the text/sentences off of the NHS website, it's best to write yhis yourself. Thanks (submitted using mobile so apologies ive done anything incorrect, Thanks) –Davey2010Talk 17:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for resolving this issue with me. I'll get on doing that later, after trying some rewording out and getting the go-ahead so that I don't make it wrong. And thanks for helping me take steps in resolving my problems that I had with you W;ChangingUsername (talk) 11:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I would guess that the NHS website is not copyright and I believe the content is free to use - if it were, the edits would be fine to be on this website then? W;ChangingUsername


W;ChangingUsername Firstly, Davey2010 is not an admin. You are adding medical instructions to the page, you are editwarring, you are breaking copyright by copying NHS information and breaking other rules. Right now you are in the wrong and close to a block. Work with other people not against them. fr33kman 16:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the content was not copyrighted (like before)
Or, if I got permission from the website (NHS) owners and UK government to use the content, then would the information remain on simple_wikipedia ? I mean if permission was gained, the edits would go back. W;ChangingUsername (talk) 16:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With your second case here, due to how the licence that Wikipedia uses works (CC-BY-SA), that would still be considered copyright infringement in the eyes of our policies (and possibly the law).- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 16:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, understood. I will keep that in mind for future edits to make sure they can stay up. But I will keep my ears open for more from the other person, to make sure that can happen. W;ChangingUsername (talk) 16:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair Use

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Is fair use allowed here, like it is on the English Wikipedia? // Kakan spelar (talk) 15:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a small wiki, and we don't have the resources needed to maintain our own images. Use what you find on Commons ... Eptalon (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, small amounts of text quotes are allowed as long as they are cited. Images are not. fr33kman 16:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees

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Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers.

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:

Applications for the committees open on 16 October 2024. Applications for the Affiliations Committee close on 18 November 2024, and applications for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on 2 December 2024. Learn how to apply by visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki. Post to the talk page or email cst@wikimedia.org with any questions you may have.

For the Committee Support team,


-- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 23:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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How can I use RedWarn here? CosmLearner (talk) contribs 11:57, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chemistry ("It is a solid.")

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It is not enough, for an encyclopedia to say, that a compound, is "a solid"; In many cases it should be okay to indicate something like,
"It is a solid at room temperature at atmospheric-pressure at sea level, and in many other situations".

There should be consensus as to one or more standard phrases et cetera, about what to say about those compounds. Thoughts?

For now, i don't think it is helpful to use the wiki-article Standard temperature and pressure - to explain (or link), to explain 'a solid at room-temperature at sea-level (pressure)'.

(I recently tried to fix an article, by saying "sea-level" - but i have not fixed the 'missing part about pressure'. See,

This compound (and many other) is a ... solid]] at (so-called) standard temperature and pressure.) 2001:2020:333:C6E5:83A:C472:2680:1408 (talk) 19:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"It is often found as a solid, in nature."--This is an example of something, that is not as bad as saying "It is a solid."--I would not rule out (myself) using that ('nature phrase') as a 'quick fix', if an article says 'It is a solid.' 2001:2020:333:C6E5:83A:C472:2680:1408 (talk) 19:34, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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