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== The Exceptions ==
Hi, just a courtesy notice - you PRODded [[The Exceptions]] this article, which I deleted. However I have now restored the article as an editor has stated they wish to improve. If you remain unconvinced about notability you may wish to consider an [[WP:AFD]]. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 09:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
== Denise Milani ==
Extremely belated response to your question on my talkpage. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— [[user:east718|<span style="color:#000;">east718</span>]] | [[user talk:east718#top|<span style="color:#000;">talk</span>]] | 21:48, 22 October 2014 (UTC)</span>
== Speedy deletion declined: [[:Fusion music]] ==
Hello Aeternus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of [[:Fusion music]], a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''G4 only applies when the previous deletion was due to a deletion discussion.''' Thank you. [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 00:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
::Sorry, I didn't notice the discussion you linked to. I just saw that the original deletion reason for that page was G8. It's gone now. [[User:Jackmcbarn|Jackmcbarn]] ([[User talk:Jackmcbarn|talk]]) 19:03, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
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Albania is mistakenly listed as an Axis force instead of an Ally. As a knowledgeable person can you intervene?
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I created a talk topic under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Allies_of_World_War_II#Editors_Needed_On_Clarifying_the_Albanian_Case
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The facts are clearly there, but I cannot edit it and there need to be more people involved to convince a Editor which does not know the basics of WW2 in the Balkans.
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Editors Needed On Clarifying the Albanian Case[edit]
Dear Editors, -- Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force. Since there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources, then I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. Best Regards
LupinoJacky (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Albania was an Ally state, the book "Enciclopedia of World War II, Volume 1, Section "Treaties Ending the War", Page 824, ISBN-10: 0816060223, ISBN-13: 978-0816060221" acknowledges that Albania signed the peace treaties in the end of WW2 as an Allied country.
Citing page 824: "The first peace treaty concluded between the Allies and a former Axis nation was with Italy. It was signed in Paris on February, 10, 1947, by representatives from Albania, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Czechoslovakia, Ethipia, France, Great Britain, Greece, India, Iraq, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zeeland, Pakistan, Poland, Slovak Republic, South Africa, the Soviet Union, the United States, Yugoslavia, and Italy."
(weblink https://books.google.de/books?id=LbWFgjW6KX8C&pg=PA824&lpg=PA824&dq=WW2+allied+and+associated+powers+albania&source=bl&ots=ehfHi5vpFh&sig=IZ3bXd3OKFo71jBU3Abay6tt6ao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h1bSVLe5OoT0UKCdgPAH&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=WW2%20allied%20and%20associated%20powers%20albania&f=false)
Unless there is any source showing the contrary, please add Albania to this page, clarifying 1) the fighting contribution of the Albanian National Liberation Front and 2) the fighting contribution of the government in exile by King Zog in terms of 2.1. resisting the Italian invasion, 2.2. resisting throughout WW2 through the Legality Movement forces.
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== Tal Wilkenfeld and Toto ==
Hello,
You have just reverted my reversion, so let's better discuss the thing and not start a silly edit war.
You point me, quite rightly, to [[Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts]] to support your decision to add [[Toto]] to [[Tal Wilkenfeld]]'s list of associated acts. There we can read, as a criterion for inclussion:
- Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together
But we can also read as criterion to avoid:
- One-time collaboration for a single, or on a single song
I can read in the [[Toto XIV]] that Tal is indeed credited, but along four other bass players. And [http://www.stevelukather.com/music/discography/2015/toto-xiv.aspx the source for those credits] singles out David Hungate as the bassist. So it is quite unlikely that Tal's collaboration went further than playing on a single song, or maybe some scattered overdubs. I thing this falls under the criterion for avoidance, rather than the criterion for inclusion, don't you agree?--[[User:Gorpik|Gorpik]] ([[User talk:Gorpik|talk]]) 13:15, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
:Hi, and thanks for starting a discussion. According to the source, both Hungate and Wilkenfeld (among others) are listed as bassists on the record, so we cannot know precisely how much they have contributed. I say we wait until more detailed sources come out and see to make the correct assumptions. But for now I think Wilkenfeld is, technicaly at least, associated with Toto. --'''[[User:Aeternus|Λeternus]]''' [[User talk:Aeternus|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:30, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
::According to [[C. J. Vanston]], the record producer, on [http://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2013/12/the-making-of-the-new-toto-xiv-album.aspx March 25th 2014]: "Tal Wilkenfeld killed it today in my studio with Toto... Played on two songs, we had a blast, what a player. Great project." So it looks like she played in just one session for two songs. To me, though the current wording is unclear, the criterion ''collaborated on an album'' means collaborating on equal terms, such as Metallica and Lou Reed in the infamous [[Lulu (Lou Reed and Metallica album)|Lulu]], or at the very least playing in all songs, such as Tal herself did with [[Ryan Adams (album)|Ryan Adams]]. That's why it is mentioned along with ''on multiple occasions'' or ''toured with as a single collaboration act playing together'' (and not ''played a concert together'', for instance). Otherwise, the ''Associated acts'' list for session players would be endless. This collaboration is worthy for the main article body, but not for the infobox.--[[User:Gorpik|Gorpik]] ([[User talk:Gorpik|talk]]) 15:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
:::I mostly agree with you, so I reverted my edit. --'''[[User:Aeternus|Λeternus]]''' [[User talk:Aeternus|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 08:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
== Articles for deletion/Igorrr ==
Hello Aeternus,
Thanks for your time and investment to make Wikipedia more clear.
However, as far as I see, some pages need to be still open as they fill in the Wikipedia's rules and are very regularly visited.
I think about the Igorrr page, the artist is noticeable enough to have an article on the site as many people seems to be concerned by his music.
CF, the amount of interviews he has done, the large amount of reviews about his music, some of them, in noticeable magazines as "Les Inrockuptibles", "Trax", "Rock Hard" or "Rock A Rolla", the amount of concerts Igorrr has done by the years, some of them, again, in noticeable festivals like "Dour Festival", the International touring he has done these years (All Europe, Canada, Russia, Middle East, Armenia).
To take some sources, here are some online articles about his music : https://www.facebook.com/notes/igorrr/online-press/10151220601778049
And some concerts he/they have done : http://www.igorrr.com/#tour
We can notice also that Igorrr has worked with important bands as Morbid Angel, Mayhem, Tryo, Estradasphere, and has been programmed on the biggest French radios as "France Musique", "France Culture", "Le Mouv'" to speak only a few words about that.
Sources :
- "Les Inrockuptibles" : http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http://boutique.lesinrocks.com/heavy-metal-hs-p239.htm&title=Les%20Inrocks
- "Trax" : https://www.facebook.com/IgorrrBarrroque/photos/a.305585923048.143291.241913148048/10150095331148049/?type=1&permPage=1
- "Dour Festival" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rk1K5Mmnbg
- Collaboration with Morbid Angel : http://shop.season-of-mist.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Illud%20Divinum%20Insanus%20%E2%80%93%20The%20Remixes
Not to mention also that Igorrr is going to play with some of the most important Metal band like Slipknot at Forta Rock this year ( source : http://www.fortarock.nl/ ).
I think he became noticeable enough to leave his page open, and people like me needs such informative media about that kind of music.
Same for his label Ad Noiseam, the label has done so much important work on this scene that we need its page to be visible and open to read any time.
Thank you again for your time and for understanding.
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:Hi, notability is established when the subject is covered by [[WP:RELIABLE|reliable sources]]. This doesn't seem to be the case with [[Igorrr]]. If you find any reliable source that has him covered in detail, please take it to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Igorrr]]. Thanks. --'''[[User:Aeternus|Λeternus]]''' [[User talk:Aeternus|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:26, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello, if I can just add something. The notability for the artist has its own criteria, to be seen as a notable a musician should meets at least one of 12 points. Number 4, 5, 7 and 12 are evidently completed by this musician. Moreover the numerous articles in a popular music magazines are taking part of a reliable sources (Metal storm webzine, Side-Line magazine etc). All of his work was physically published in a form of digipack CD or vinyl.
As I know there are also few master thesis about his work, although I am not sure if this one can really count as a reliable source. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bagienna|Bagienna]] ([[User talk:Bagienna|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bagienna|contribs]]) 12:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== I believe my Article was notable enough this time ==
Hello. I believe my Article was notable enough this time however it is deleted without giving me any satisfactory explanation. The procedure i have followed: Make draft, join chat and spend 1 whole day to edit and compose excellent article based on suggestion and edits by experts at the chat, submit draft, draft accepted, draft reviewed and edited by WikiProject_Video_games editor and completely published. Then i ask chat again about isn’t this too much edit? then primefac opens speedy delete then it is deleted without giving me any explanation in matter of minutes. If you check the issue i appreciate ty very much : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonsterMMORPG . And there were not any discussion it was deleted immediately. One more notice: I checked same genre games articles and majority of them have way more less authority references and even some have 0 references. Thank you very much for your help. [[User:OnlineGamesExpert|OnlineGamesExpert]] ([[User talk:OnlineGamesExpert|talk]]) 12:36, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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