Talk:Kevin Sorbo
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Is he of Italian descent? Newager 15:22, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is of Norweigen heritage
I have a link to a page of mine about his hometown of Mound, Minnesota. It is www.MoundWestonka.com. I'd like some opinions about whether or not it belongs on this page, before I would post it. As far as I know, the last time he was here was in 1997 for his class re-union. My pages have a picture of the park named after him, and him appearing on a mural.
And yes, I would say he is a Lutheran Norwegian, from what I recall, and his parents first names. Ask him if he eats Lutefisk sometime? As to what a Lutheran Norwegian is, see Garrison Keillor.
It's been a couple weeks, and no one has commented on my above. I'd appreciate an admin posting the link on the page, so that I can stay in Wikipedia's good graces.
He can act!
I'm watching The Santa Suit as I write this -- and Sorbo can actually act! He gives a subdued and affecting performance. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 11:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
On The Guild
Kevin Sorbo had a cameo in Season 5 Episode 8 of The Guild http://www.watchtheguild.com/its-a-celebrity-party/ --Vampus (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Why Christian faith not mentioned in the Personal section?
In this 100 Huntley Street interview he openly talks about being a Christian in Hollywood, including mentioning he has turned down roles due to his faith http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bn4MnuSGIko 142.229.80.250 (talk) 01:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- His Christian activism really belong into the article:
"As he takes on Christian films, such as What if … and Soul Surfer while also leaving room for secular films, his only wish is to change the face of Hollywood as we know it. His personal worry is, what will the public consider normal when most things portrayed tell us that our innate moral views might probably be wrong.“Hollywood likes to put out their own message out a lot of times, and that message isn't the best one for everyone,” he noted. “If you keep saying two plus two equals five over and over again, then that is what people are going to think. Maybe it does equal five if we keep changing the definition of what’s normal and what's right and what's wrong.” Sorbo’s concern also carries over to how much Christianity is being bullied by the press over and over again. He lamented, “Christianity takes this beating that I really don’t understand and yet you can't say anything negative about the Muslims because that's horrible, you can't say anything negative about other faiths.“ Through his new roles, he hopes to not only stop the big bullies from beating down Christianity but also transform Hollywood by refining its definition of what is truly right and what is truly good."(Kevin Sorbo – Christian Hercules in Hollywood March 2011 interview on ChristianPost.com)84.152.41.50 (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Julia X
This film is missing from his history. Was this an oversight? 2601:D:1100:430:3510:DB05:B0DD:D6B3 (talk) 06:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Ferguson Controversy
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Should Sorbo's recent appearances in the news for his commentary on Ferguson be a part of this page? 05:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC) My thoughts: Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz removed additions to this entry regarding Sorbo's controversial comments about demonstrators in Ferguson, citing them as distortion not true to the sources (though they were quotes from Sorbo himself unaltered, so that seems odd.) Perhaps the wording of that content is questionable and should be altered, but if so some suggested edit would be more appropriate than deleting the content wholesale. Consider these points, however: 1) This is probably the only time Sorbo has made headline news in years. 2) His politics and personal beliefs (including his belief that he's the target of industry discrimination) are all over this article as it stands, and not including this part seems like cherry picking. If we're going to devote time to talking about his relationship with the media and his beliefs, this seems like the most notable example of that playing out. Does anyone agree, or have a better way of writing it, or is the consensus that this information shouldn't be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.211.150 (talk) 00:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Of course not. Wikipedia is not a place where we memorialize any stupid thing a celebrity may said, or transiently embarrassing press reports. And, given the amount of vandalism/nonconstructive editing from this IP, coupled with their knowledge of how to start an RFC, is there any good reason not to identify this editor as a "bad-hand" sock? The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:16, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for opening up a line of dialogue (even if it took some prodding.) I'm not an editor here and use public wifi, so I'm not sure what other history you think I have, but I only know how to start a discussion because I Googled it—it doesn't take a genius. Even so, if I were a sockpuppet (again, I'm not) that seems like an ad hominem issue unrelated to whether I'm wrong or not. And it's certainly not assuming good faith, which I do know to be a thing we're encouraged to do. To your point, however—"Wikipedia is not a place where we memorialize any stupid thing a celebrity may said" — no, certainly not, at least not just for the sake of doing so, but controversial events (related to celebrities or not) are indeed something common in entries, and in this case I maintain that it's the most noteworthy instance of Sorbo's activities even being relevant in modern years. Mainstream news didn't follow the gripping story of the time he hurt his shoulder filming Kull the Conqueror or whatever, but it certainly has followed this. Is it not noteworthy just because it's "embarassing" to the subject? I'm not going to argue it, I certainly have better things to do, but that's my point of view—I'll leave it to others to form a consensus and whatever happens, happens, but I honestly don't get where you're coming from (or your passive-aggressiveness about it.) 50.194.39.67 (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- So... are we having a discussion about the "Ferguson Controversy" or are we here to do a battle of complaints about other editors. If it's the former, let me know and I'll read the Diffs and offer an opinion. For the record, I am and editor here and will take the issue seriously, if that's what we're here to do. Just let me know. Vertium When all is said and done 01:23, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm trying to, hence my first paragraph and opening up a tag for discussion. Your comments are both invited and more than welcome. None of that has anything to do with Wolf; I was simply responding to him dismissing my comments because he thinks I'm someone else or whatever. 75.64.211.150 (talk) 17:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, here's my two cents. I believe the original content is both accurate and worthy of inclusion. It is relevant to the individual, provides context and support for other aspects of the article and does not appear to violate WP:BLP. It includes content that complies with WP:BLPSELFPUB as a source and furthers the reader's understanding of the article's subject. It is well cited with reliable sources, and I see no reason to not include it. Further, when a notable individual says something "stupid", that can be notable, particularly when it furthers the reader's understanding of the individual, which this content clearly does.
- That said, Wolf... I don't know you, and how you behave here is entirely up to you. However, the edit warring in which you engaged and commandment of "do not restore unless the applicable discussion is closed/resolved consistent with inclusion" is at the very best, impolite. It is not your position to tell others what they can or cannot revert. You might do well to read WP:AGF and if that doesn't suffice, a lesson in being polite, both in your edit summaries (a well placed "please" goes a long way) and in your talk message (example above) might be helpful. In case you're not aware, edits from an IP address can be done by multiple people. Lastly, I don't know who 75.64.211.150 is either, but I would suggest you create a registered account name to clearly distinguish yourself from your IP address. That is by far the easiest way to avoid the confusion between multiple editors on an IP address. Thanks to all for participating in the dialogue. I am in favor of including the content as originally added to this article. Vertium When all is said and done 19:06, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- You're simply wrong on at least two important points. First of all, the "original content" was certainly not accurate; it went well beyond the sources it cited, and sensationalized this very minor incident. Second, it is longstanding BLP policy and practice that when content is reasonably challenged under BLP, it is not restored unless/until there is consensus that the "burden of evidence" for inclusion is met. And I find your hectoring of me here quite rude and inappropriate; neither I nor anyone else should be faulted for doubting the good faith of an IP editor when the IP address's history consists of little more than attempting to add embarrassing content or outright vandalism to BLPs [1] [2]. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:32, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- We'll see what others think, I suppose. And thanks for the comments, both of you. I have no beef with just talking it out and not reverting as nauseum; that seems counterproductive. So I'm not opposed to not restoring it without consensus, whether or not that's policy or not. As for assuming bad faith, Wolf, those two examples seem to be really obvious vandalism, and I'm not sure if you're implying that my contribution here was, but it's not and does not resemble that, even if it were relevant to the discussion. Let's try and stick to the subject. Harsh personalities seem to be common enough here anyhow (and the reason I don't care to bother registering for an account.) 75.64.211.150 (talk) 07:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'll just reply to the situation without going into detail about the passive-aggressive comment on "hectoring. Repeated reverts is edit warring, which is neither productive nor permitted. In any case, this was not vandalism at all, so to call it such is neither appropriate nor appreciated. And, since it appears that anyone who disagrees with Wolf is just plain wrong, we'll let others voice their opinion. Vertium When all is said and done 16:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have read WP:BLP and the above discussion. I don't think information on the interview should be included. In 100 years time if this article were to be written to its full potential, the interview probably would not rate a mention. I think that whilst the encyclopaedia is built we should be mindful towards WP:RECENTISM, particularly as it relates to BLP subjects. PNGWantok (talk) 13:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)