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:::I was wondering about the distinction myself when I added the information to the article. I just wikilinked both "[[fire engines]]" and "[[fire trucks]]" so people can read up on it for themselves, though someone might remove the link since it's a pretty common word/phrase. [[User:Funcrunch|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch|talk]]) 16:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
::::I think that is a good provisional approach. [[User:Bus stop|Bus stop]] ([[User talk:Bus stop|talk]]) 16:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::Fire truck is a redirect to Fire engine, which says the terms have different meaning in North America, but does not appear to explain the differences, so this is just a frustrating and pointless unexplained distinction, an all-too-common Wikipedia result. It is useful to check wikilinks when providing them. The trucks were ladder trucks. But this article doesn't give the information, and then taking me twice to the same article that also doesn't give the information doesn't help. --[[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] ([[User talk:KP Botany|talk]]) 20:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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