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==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment==
[[File:Sciences humaines.svg|40px]] This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2019-11-25">25 November 2019</span> and <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2019-12-21">21 December 2019</span>. Further details are available [[Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/UCSF_School_of_Medicine/WikiMed_Dec_2019_UCSF_SOM_(Career_Launch_Block_9)|on the course page]]. Student editor(s): [[User:Ellenltsay|Ellenltsay]]. Peer reviewers: [[User:Atenorio2080|Atenorio2080]].
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==What does club in club foot mean?==
I think there should be a part somewhere in this article explaining this. Is it because the legs are shaped like a [[golf club]]? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/49.50.207.90|49.50.207.90]] ([[User talk:49.50.207.90|talk]]) 08:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== In non-human animals ==
Would it be within the scope of this article to add a couple paragraphs on club feet in other animals, specifically horses? In horses, it's quite common. Occurs due to a somewhat different process, I think (I'll have to do some research before adding anything) but I'd like to either create a new article or add on to this one. Basically I don't want to create a new article/content fork if it isn't appropriate, but I'd also not want to add stuff to this article that's beyond its scope if it's confined to the human condition only. Opinions? [[User:Montanabw|<
:No one complained, so I added a couple of paragraphs and tagged the article for WPEQ. If anyone feels this material is beyond the scope and wants to move it to a new article on clubfeet in non-humans, let me know. I don't have the intent to expand the section much at present, but maybe later. Eventually we may want to create a new article just for horses, but would prefer to have a lot more material to add first. [[User:Montanabw|<
== A touch of the [[WP:CRYSTAL|crystal balls]]? ==
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The article does not have a strong "encyclopedic" tone at a lot of points, which can be improved by staying more on topic in each section. For example, the "Cause" overview ends with, "Effected individuals have smaller than normal legs even after corrected." Although it is relevant to clubfoot, this has nothing to do with the cause of clubfoot, and would be best to only be included in Diagnosis, where the physical findings are mentioned and described. Having a smaller leg is not a cause of clubfoot deformity, it is an exam finding, like the other CAVE findings.
There are other instances where wording is excessive in this piece. This has to do with improving the grammar and tone, but the wordiness becomes confusing at times. For example, the bulletpoint under Ponseti method about "The final stage of casting..." reads like a textbook and not an encyclopedia entry. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rsnorton3|Rsnorton3]] ([[User talk:Rsnorton3#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rsnorton3|contribs]]) 22:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::The lead is supposed to be a summary of the condition in question.
::The details in the lead are to be expanded into more detail in the body of the text.
::Agree the body should be arranged so the appropriate stuff is in the appropriate section. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 18:22, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
==Ref gib2013==
{{ping|Doc James}}
I am not sure that my explanation in my second edit is exhaustive enough, so I bring this here, so to spend a few more words about it.
According to the help page, references can be "full" or "short". A full reference gives the whole information to the citation, a short reference redirects to the full, so to make it easier to work it out in the text. Apparently, WP's software can parse both full and short references wherever they're placed in the article; however, I've had problems when the full ref is not the _very first_ instance of them and the short ones follow. I've therefore moved the full Gib2013 ref at the top of the article. It also makes easier on the editor to work on references when it's the first instance.
Second point. Whoever put the gib2013 ref in, was of the opinion that every sentence based on it should have its own reference. On the basis of [[wp:Inline citation#Citation density]] it is enough to place _one_ ref at the end of the text supported by it, plus a few ones where things might get ambiguous because more references are used. That's why I removed so many of them.
[[Special:Contributions/79.13.120.159|79.13.120.159]] ([[User talk:79.13.120.159|talk]]) 20:19, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
::I have keep the full details in the first occurrence.
::I have restored the ref to every sentence per [[Wikipedia:Citation_overkill]]
::It is perfectly fine to have a ref for every sentence. And we do this routinely for medical content. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 20:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
==UCSF WikiMed 2019 Elective Workplan==
'''SEE POST BELOW WHICH DISCUSSES WHAT PARTS OF WORKPLAN WERE ACCOMPLISHED'''<br>
Hello, I am a fourth year medical student at UCSF who is taking the Wikipedia elective. My goal over the next month is to improve this page so that it more clearly, comprehensively, and effectively communicates information about clubfoot to the general public.<br>
===Workplan===
'''Overall'''<br>
* Revise article to follow guidelines from the Manual of Style for Medicine-related articles, such as:
* Use active voice where possible
* Replace jargon with plain English
'''Signs and symptoms'''
* Distinguish between signs and symptoms
* Include more examples of signs and symptoms
* Be more descriptive and add photos so that a reader can easily visualize and imagine what it might be like to have clubfoot
'''Causes'''
* Add supporting citations; remove unsupported statements
* Review current literature on genetic causes and update "Genetics" section to ensure that it is up-to-date, including relevant information
'''Diagnosis'''
* Reorganize bulleted list of clubfoot deformity components so that it is concise, clearly formatted and easily readable.
* Add photos depicting each component of the deformity.
'''Treatment'''
* Review current literature on treatment and update this section to ensure it is up-to-date
* Reorganize "Ponseti method" section so that it is concise, and clearly delineates the sequence of events. Consider utilizing subheadings rather than bullet points
* Add discussion under "Ponseti method" about common issues and how to address these (ie. skin breaks, brace discomfort)
* Reorganize "Surgery" section with subheadings such as "[name of specific surgery]," "Risks/Complications," "Technique," and "Recovery or Rehabilitation."
* Check that the "Surgery" section is geared towards an appropriate audience and reading level
'''Prognosis'''
* Add this section
* Discuss the expected prognosis with/without treatment, treatment success rates, and risk factors for poor outcomes
'''History'''
* Include relevant information such as background on Dr. Ponseti, the origins of treatments, and any outdated treatments
* Remove incomplete or unsupported information
'''Introduction and References sections'''
* Update to capture and reflect the changes made above
* Add information about the epidemiology, including a discussion of the global burden and impact of clubfoot
<br><br>
===Timeline===
12/1: finish workplan<br>
12/5: complete research, begin edits<br>
12/10: submit first edits<br>
'''12/11: begin peer reviews (video call)'''<br>
12/15: post peer review on talk page<br>
'''12/16: respond to peer review (video call)'''<br>
12/19: submit final edits<br>
'''12/20: wrap-up course'''<br><br>
'''SEE POST BELOW WHICH DISCUSSES WHAT PARTS OF WORKPLAN WERE ACCOMPLISHED'''
--[[User:Ellenltsay|Ellenltsay]] ([[User talk:Ellenltsay|talk]]) 21:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)Ellen Tsay
== Peer Review for user Ellenltsay ==
Great work on creating a thorough workplan. My main suggestion is that you may not have the time to complete it as it may require extensive work on your part. I suggest you prioritize a few sections and if time permits, tackle the lower priority sections later. It looks like the causes, treatment, and signs/symptoms need the most work so I would prioritize those. The following are a few comments about certain sections after reading the article and your workplan.
'''Causes''':
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-needs citations for proposed mechanism of the development of clubfoot.
'''Treatment''':
<br>
-agree with using subheadings instead of bulletpoints (manual also suggests this)
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''Surgery'': recommend also adding additional citations. Only has two in entire subsection.
'''Epidemiology''':
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-If time permits, I would expand the epidemiology section as well as adding it to the lead section.
[[User:Atenorio2080|Atenorio2080]] ([[User talk:Atenorio2080|talk]])
==Overview of treatment==
Not sure why this overview was slit into a section on prognosis?
"Treatment is usually with some combination of the [[Ponseti method|Ponseti]] or French methods.<ref name=Dob2009/> The Ponseti method includes the following: [[orthopedic casting|casting]] together with manipulation, cutting the [[Achilles tendon]], and bracing. The Ponseti method has been found to be effective in correcting the problem in those under the age of two.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Ganesan|first1=B|last2=Luximon|first2=A|last3=Al-Jumaily|first3=A|last4=Balasankar|first4=SK|last5=Naik|first5=GR|title=Ponseti method in the management of clubfoot under 2 years of age: A systematic review.|journal=PLoS ONE|date=2017|volume=12|issue=6|pages=e0178299|doi=10.1371/journal.pone.0178299|pmid=28632733|pmc=5478104|bibcode=2017PLoSO..1278299G}}</ref> The French method, which involves realignment and taping of the foot, is often effective, but requires a lot of effort by caregivers.<ref name=Dob2009/> Another technique known as Kite does not appear as good.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Gray|first1=K|last2=Pacey|first2=V|last3=Gibbons|first3=P|last4=Little|first4=D|last5=Burns|first5=J|date=Aug 12, 2014|title=Interventions for congenital talipes equinovarus (clubfoot).|journal=The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews|volume=8|issue=8|pages=CD008602|doi=10.1002/14651858.CD008602.pub3|pmid=25117413}}</ref> In about 20% of cases, further surgery is required.<ref name=Gib2013/>"
IMO it flowed well as it was? [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 00:30, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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==Responses to ATenorio2080 & Doc James==
Thanks Atenorio2080 for your review of my workplan. I agree that I have not been able to complete every item of my workplan. I will address this by indicating which items I was able to address and which I have yet to get to, so that fellow Wikipedians can focus and prioritize their efforts accordingly. I have expanded the epidemiology section and have edited the Ponseti portion of the treatment section. My next goal is to run through as much of the article as possible and ensure that it is free of jargon (or link to pages defining terms). However, if I have additional time I will also try to find citations for the Causes and Surgery sections.
Doc James, thank you for diligently monitoring and upholding the quality of this article. I had initially broken out a separate Prognosis section with the intention of fleshing it out thoroughly with information on recurrence rates, bracing adherence, and factors affecting long-term prognosis. I anticipated there would be enough material here to warrant a separate section. However I published changes before I had fleshed out this section - I agree with you that for now it should be kept as was before. Thanks!
--[[User:Ellenltsay|Ellenltsay]] ([[User talk:Ellenltsay|talk]]) 10:49, 16 December 2019 (UTC)Ellen Tsay
::Sounds good. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 20:38, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
==UCSF WikiMed 2019 Summary of Changes==
Hello, I am a fourth year medical student at UCSF who is taking the Wikipedia elective. My goal over the past month was to improve this page so that it more clearly, comprehensively, and effectively communicates information about clubfoot to the general public. My initial workplan is posted above. Below is a summary of major changes made:<br>
'''Signs and symptoms''': Included more, and more descriptive, examples of signs and symptoms<br>
'''Diagnosis''': Reorganized the components of deformity into a table (accompanied by diagrams that I illustrated and uploaded to Wikimedia) so that it is more concise, readable, and visual.<br>
'''Treatment''': Reorganized the "Ponseti method" section into a bulleted list to be more concise and clearly delineate the sequence of events. Added discussion under "Ponseti method" about recurrence, risk factors for recurrence, and importance of bracing. Added hyperlinks to anatomic terms<br>
'''Epidemiology''': Reworded and rearranged for clarity and better flow<br>
'''General''': Updated lede & info-box to capture and reflect the changes made above. Used active voice, avoided jargon, and reworded for clarity, conciseness and natural flow throughout<br><br>
Suggested areas for future focus:
'''Causes''': Add supporting citations; remove unsupported statements. Update with the current literature on genetic causes.<br>
'''Treatment''': Reorganize the "Surgery" section to be more readable and structured. Consider using subheadings such as "[name of specific surgery]," "Risks/Complications," "Technique," and "Recovery or Rehabilitation."<br>
'''History''': Remove incomplete, unsupported, and irrelevant information. Include a brief history of developments in treatment (ie. Dr. Ponseti), treatment devices, global initiatives, etc.
<br>
Thanks for all your work on this page!
--[[User:Ellenltsay|Ellenltsay]] ([[User talk:Ellenltsay|talk]]) 9:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Ellen Tsay
==References==
I have restored a bunch of reference to the lead. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 01:55, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
==Wiki Education assignment: UCSF SOM Inquiry In Action-- Wikipedia Editing 2022==
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== Wiki Education assignment: UCSF SOM Inquiry In Action-- Wikipedia Editing 2022 ==
I think this article was well written and informed me of a new medical condition I have never formally learned about in medical school. The one comment I have is to possibly consider rearranging the article such that the history, cultural references, and epidemiology to the beginning of the article page before the signs and system, which should improve the article flow. [[User:Brandongo60|Brandongo60]] ([[User talk:Brandongo60|talk]]) 04:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
== Feedback on Clubfoot Article - Overview and Cultural Competency ==
In reviewing the clubfoot article, it is clear that there was lots of time, energy, and dedication put into creating a cohesive and informative page. The edits regarding etiologies and ensuring that the communicated information is culturally aware has definitely elevated the article. [[User:Zurcnhoj|Zurcnhoj]] ([[User talk:Zurcnhoj|talk]]) 04:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
== Consider simplifying the language ==
Parts of this article are impenetrable for people with average education. At least, there should be explanations (or weblinks to them) for the more obscure terms.
Better would be to rewrite, avoiding medical terminology as possible, like "environmental insult" for physical harm, or "oligohydramnios" and many others just in this one paragraph (Causes, extrinsic factors):
Factors that can influence the positioning of the fetal foot in utero include oligohydramnios, breech presentation, Müllerian anomalies, multiple gestation, amniotic band sequence, or amniocentesis at <15 weeks of gestation. In cases that impede normal growth and position for longstanding period of times, clubfoot can be accompanied with other deformations and may be associated with developmental hip dysplasia. The theory of fetal growth arrest was proposed by Von Volkmann in 1863, and has been verified by other authors since. According to this theory, intrinsic errors or environmental insults during gestation prevents the correction of an equinovarus to pronated foot. Other researchers hypothesize that clubfoot may derive from external insults during gestation. For example, a research study found an alarmingly high incidence of club foot and limb contractures associated with iatrogenic amniotic leakage caused by early amniocentesis between the 11th and 12th week of gestation. [[User:Geke|Geke]] ([[User talk:Geke|talk]]) 21:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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