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Cuers massacre
editHi Parakanyaa, you might now want to make the article read more on the massacre and not the WP:BIO1E. Happy editing, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:36, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Was busy but I will do that now! Sorry for the delay! PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
The article Néo-Phare you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Néo-Phare and Talk:Néo-Phare/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Voorts -- Voorts (talk) 19:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Abuse of Speedy deletion/Support of Mass surveillance
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi PARAKANYAA, you recently flagged a page I created about an intelligence community vendor as “not notable”. I find this shocking since the company in question provides technology that intercepts universal communications and is involved in mass surveillance spying. Either you don’t understand that this is a mass surveillance company or you support and are trying to hide the existence of these mass surveillance companies it seems. I have contested the speedy deletion and I welcome your perspective on why the public shouldn’t have greater awareness of mass surveillance companies especially given their extreme controversy and public interest.
Pacificgov (talk) 00:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pacificgov Notability for companies is not based off of their perceived importance, but coverage in secondary sources. The article has no coverage in secondary sources. It also seems AI-ish. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Okay well if you think an NSA vendor is not important then I guess we know why the world is the way it is with the lack of public information due to censors and administrators like on here at Wikipedia that determine the agenda and narrative of what’s covered and not the community.
- Pacificgov (talk) 01:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pacificgov If I wrote what I myself thought was important and true it would be very different from what sources dictate. What we write here is not based off of my own opinion, it is based off of secondary sourcing PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re the one who sponsored it for immediate deletion to bypass community opinion. There are several secondary sources about S32. Pacificgov (talk) 01:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pacificgov Pages that do not credibly indicate importance are supposed to be speedied. It did not credibly indicate its importance through sourcing. Then add them to the page, if they are actually secondary. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, for everyone's sake I will remove the speedy deletion and take it to AfD. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re the one who sponsored it for immediate deletion to bypass community opinion. There are several secondary sources about S32. Pacificgov (talk) 01:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pacificgov If I wrote what I myself thought was important and true it would be very different from what sources dictate. What we write here is not based off of my own opinion, it is based off of secondary sourcing PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Draft : Awni Mutee
edithello , i just wana ask how i can improve my article regarding reliable sources i've ben searching for many sites and i added many sources to the aticle Sergey911911911 (talk) 09:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sergey911911911 I think I clicked the wrong decline rationale, apologies. The article as a whole needs to be fairly heavily copy edited, and there are some unreferenced bits, which is not allowed on a BLP. If it was a non-BLP that may be passable. My issue with notability is I'm not clear how evidenced his notability is outside the scandal - which, the scandal is definitely notable. Could you show a few sources that talk about Mutee in depth specifically? PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- yes of course i can manage that Sergey911911911 (talk) 09:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
The article Néo-Phare you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Néo-Phare for comments about the article, and Talk:Néo-Phare/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Voorts -- Voorts (talk) 00:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
DYK for 1997 Saint-Casimir mass suicide
editOn 28 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1997 Saint-Casimir mass suicide, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on the same day that the members of Heaven's Gate died in a mass suicide, five members of an unrelated group did likewise? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1997 Saint-Casimir mass suicide. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 1997 Saint-Casimir mass suicide), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Anthony Jones draft rejection
editHi i saw you rejected a draft about aj jones from baltimore. I found a few website pieces about him. Where do i post them Ptrwqa21 (talk) 10:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ptrwqa21 Are you the same person as who made the draft? You have similar usernames.
- Just add them to the article, preferably with content PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Colombian massacre Notability
editHello, I saw that you recently marked my newly created Segovia massacre, Honduras and La Negra farms massacre, and La Mejor Esquina massacre articles as possibly not meeting notability guidelines. Could you tell me what concerns you personally have, what I could possibly do to prove their notability? Mason7512 (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mason7512 The Segovia and Major Esquinas ones I did too hastily, I think I tagged the wrong pages, they appear to have retrospective coverage and look fine. Apologies, I have been a bit sleep deprived lately, I will be more careful going forwards.
- My issue with the farms massacre page is that the only source I can see on that page that gives sigcov and non passing mentions of the massacre is from right when it happened, or is a government report, which don't much help notability. I could not access the book source. Is there those retrospective articles or book coverage like the other two pages have? If so, add them, and feel free to remove the tag if so. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for the reply and feedback! Mason7512 (talk) 01:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
A goat for you!
editThanks. I'm still new to figuring out citations.
SkibidiGyatt99 (talk) 09:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @SkibidiGyatt99 No problem! Happy editing. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you!
editThank you for your WP:GAN review of Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi)! TarnishedPathtalk 11:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath You're welcome. Was an interesting article and topic to review, I'll keep it on my watchlist. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi) has been nominated for Did You Know
editHello, PARAKANYAA. I've nominated Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi), an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed, to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know . You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. ~~~~
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Early Belgian Association of OSMT
editHello, sorry for the confusion, I am still learning how to effectively use Wikipedia. Thank you for notifying me about the talk feature.
I would be happy to try to communicate about things here.
I've been studying (seriously) the various neo-Templar movements for more than the last decade and have a pretty vast array of resources that I have accumulated, including primary and secondary sources/documents.
Unfortunately, the problem about the secondary sources with this field is that one must tread carefully - as many of the secondary sources are often times biased and often times used to try to assert dominance, authority, or legitimacy over another and are often times not really based exactly from primary sources, or distorted.
Anyways, as stated, you can find it yourself if you wish in the annals of the official registration in the "Belgisch Saatsbald" of January 1932 on page 16 No. 81. This includes the registration of the association and it's statutes.
I hope this helps you at all and I welcome any and all discuss.
Thank you 193.207.214.127 (talk) 19:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- No issues, I didn't know how to do a lot of the more technical aspects when I was new here either. Going forward, it would be best to communicate on the talk page of the article, instead of my talk page, as it allows others to weigh in.
- If you mean the Belgisch Staatsblad, I attempted to use this site to search, but got no results. Did you have a better place to access its archives? Or were they registered in a language other than French? The only languages I have familiarity with are French and English so it may have been impaired by that.
- A thing with Wikipedia is it is supposed to be based off of secondary sources, which are, as you said, sometimes incorrect, distorted, or wrong. I have run into that repeatedly while looking into this topic (who founded what can be very confused it seems...) Primary sources may be used to augment this but this must be done extremely carefully to avoid WP:Original research. If this was actually a mistake on the part of the secondary sources, that's possible, but I'd be surprised that if in the 90 year history of this group not a single secondary source had ever been correct about it. I might not be looking hard enough for secondary sources, though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Could you post here the link to the talk page you are referring to?
- Thank you 193.207.162.139 (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also, If I am not mistaken, I believe that Milko Bogaard in one of his works - either the one on Martinism or that on AMORC - stated something about Harvey Spencer Lewis receiving charters from this association in 1933 (and stating the correct name). I have also actually seen these documents as well and have some copies.
- I also have a book (it might be in Italian) where it states that also Jean Malinger also received the same charters, etc., a few years later from the same association. I will try to locate the source again. 193.207.162.139 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Talk:Neo-Templarism. The talk page of any article is the name of the article prefixed with Talk:. If we're talking about the OSMTJ a connection with AMORC is unsurprising, I will see if I can find anything. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you.
- But yes, that would be the correct website. I was looking and I can't figure out how to use their search function. However, you should, I assume, also be able to write to them and request a digital copy. They are big on transparency. The publication is Bilingual and includes the French. I was looking in my files and I could only find a scan of the specific page. But is from the issue published 20/01/1932 193.207.187.141 (talk) 08:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- In the end it was in the Caillet book (which I probably should have checked first then all of this could have been avoided) PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Talk:Neo-Templarism. The talk page of any article is the name of the article prefixed with Talk:. If we're talking about the OSMTJ a connection with AMORC is unsurprising, I will see if I can find anything. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I also have a book (it might be in Italian) where it states that also Jean Malinger also received the same charters, etc., a few years later from the same association. I will try to locate the source again. 193.207.162.139 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)