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Here Zhao Mengfu depicts the changing seasons with profound vibrancy and delicacy. The artist brought the work to his friend Zhou Mi—who had been exiled for refusing to work in the Mongol-controlled court—in hopes of comforting him with a reminder of the home to which he will never return. Autumn Colors on the Qiao and Hua Mountains, Zhao Mengfu, 1295

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Thank you for the exquisite list of works by Hildegard von Bingen. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your thanks :) I'll attempt to add individual links to the International Society of Hildegard at some point. Aza24 (talk) 22:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good idea! I did that for Reger works. - I fixed the link (hit "publish" too soon) to the pictures of "her". The nuns sing vespers at 5:30pm. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
That painting of Reger on the comp list is stunning! Is that Convent the one she founded? Aza24 (talk) 23:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes and no. She founded the convent at the location, but nothing of it remained after the monasteries were closed in the 19th century. The present building dates to around 1900, but they imagined Romanesque style. Her shrine is in the village church, in walking distance. A museum dedicated mostly to her is in Bingen, across the Rhine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Very interesting Aza24 (talk) 04:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Great job to you and Grimes2 on Jürgen Ahrend — I love the table of organs! Aza24 (talk) 21:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I loved the table that was there when I met the article, - actually there was almost nothing but the table, and in the table, not even the organs were linked, nor most of the churches, - it was a challenge. I was afraid a reference would be requred for every organ, but obviously the pics were enough. I was afraid someone would complain that the sons works don't belong in the father's bio, but no. (I would not have known where to put them. In German, the article is about the workshop.) - New pics, enormous clouds and a rainbow. A bit like on the Hildegard day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
It is extraordinary! My apologies on not responding to your email yet—things have been crazy here. I'll attempt to do so either tonight or tomorrow. Wanted to consider different ideas more thoroughly first. Aza24 (talk) 01:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
No worries! - Today's story is about education, 10 years OTD after lecturing our founder). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! - Latest places are in Frankfurt, the restaurant sadly closed in August. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I began translating St. Hildegard, Eibingen, and learned that it is the site of Hildegard's foundation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Today's story is about a stage director, - watch Aida, so tender so cruel. - Here's the happy librettist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Did you know that my first DYK was 15 years ago OTD, about a friend of mine who had a red link? I just returned from a wonderful concert with only music I had never heard before, - the youngest composer (of 12, 2 of them women) born 1988 (a red link), heavenly from start to finish! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
That is an impressive program indeed! Aza24 (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
And today the festival kindly told us (listeners) what the encore was: Ben Parry's Flame, performed with the singers evenly distributed in the side aisles of the basilica, - I was close to a tenor who sang from memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sunday story about another of Bach's chorale cantatas, listen, as I listened to two impressive very different choral concerts, - music by 16 composers. In the latest cloudy pictures: a hidden deer, a cat and a blaze of a sunset. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Per an IP edit today, I looked at Alexander Goehr. Heavily edited by IPs and an all red-link user. Jerome Kohl consolidated in 2009, but it has grown since, looking very different from other composer articles, - hope he'll be blessed with a long life! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
He died today. Any help welcome. I just remembered him, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
(... and the DYK for his opera was the same day in 2019 as he now died.) Help? My story today is about a woman, nominated for RD but needing support as I write this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Goehr now too?! Ugh. I'll try to look but am super busy this week – Aza24 (talk) 11:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I somehow knew with that first IP edit. (remember Kurtág?) - Probably one of his children, and with a user name now. - I'm at his article and just found that pretty much was copied word for word from Schott, and so just needs rephrasing (which is easier than finding plenty of different sources). I'll just comment out what's not referenced after the process but am now confident that enough will remain. Take your time. Did you see the Pachelbel pic discussion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

update: he died on 25 August, we have now a good obit, and I can drop the superstition ;) - Do you have access to his Grove entry? Then you could just add the Williams 2001 ref to all facts it supports. I'll drop unreferenced stuff in a few days. Great concert tonight with Beethoven's Violin Concerto, pictured on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the trimming! Just what I needed to nominate. Today is the birthday of Alma Mahler. I believe that Siegfried Lorenz should be mentioned on the Main page among the Recent deaths, and for him, it's the last day today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

... and he appeared! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nice! Aza24 (talk) 22:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Now to the other. Thank you for adding the writings! As I write this, there are 2 "citation needed", one for Boulez programming his works in his Paris concert series, the other for Arden Must Die. I must eat ;) - the best day for him to appear would be today but if we don't manage we can claim that his death was only known 26 August, winning one more day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Relief: posted ;) - The two bits are commented out. More could be had from new source, and from the timeline from Schott (which I hesitate to use though, because Op. 6 comes before Op. 1, and Op. 2 in memory of Prokofiev was written before he died. Perhaps Op. 6 was begun earlier, and the dedication came later, but such details don't show in a timeline). I'll be out for the rest of the day, take care of the article, please. Main page appearance is a mixed blessing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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I hope my reply to your email got through. Can resend if not. Tim riley talk 16:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tim riley, I received your initial—most helpful—feedback, but don't think I've received a second reply, if that's what you mean. Aza24 (talk) 16:22, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, just the one. That's fine then. Tim riley talk 16:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I had left a reply just an hour ago, not sure if you received it. Aza24 (talk) 16:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
All fine. Tim riley talk 19:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

ITN recognition for Alexander Goehr

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On 1 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Alexander Goehr, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. – robertsky (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

 
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Thank you for your part! What do you think of my short version of his life? I wanted to match the pic, and arrived at Brian's Monteverdi, nicely matching yesterday's Vespers. (Monteverdi dedicated it to the Pope on 1 September, and be performed it on 1 Septembe 2019.) I had forgotten the Poppea discussion that I revisited in the process ;) - Much ado about nothing. Do you think that the time has come for the opera to give the reader time and place at a glance, as 1000+ other operas do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022 impressed me. - The latest places were museums in Frankfurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk)

Happier about Bach's cantata on the Main page on its 300th birthday (per calendar), my story (again)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Glad to see! I added the soprano's book to the further reading section of her great-grandfather. You could include the full citation on her page as well, if you want Aza24 (talk) 21:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, will do. - Three stories related to today in memory, 11 September, 20 July and 20 June, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with a DYK hook from 2010 and another from 2014, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Today I think of a man who stood up for Peaceful Revolution, sadly because he died, and the cantata Bach composed for today's 16th Sunday after Trinity. That was not written by me, only marginally when I updated early beginnings. Then came Nikkimaria, then Francis Schonken, then - and mostly - Mathsci. The result is epic. I dream of making Bach's chorale cantatas a featured topic, so nominated it for GA (Francis and Mathsci can't.) You were the first one coming to my mind as a reviewer who could do justice to it. I know that you are busy, - what do you think? (Just explaining why I thanked you for a space earlier today.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Happy to talk a look! It may be a few days before I can get to a review on my end—hope that's okay. Haha I was wondering what that thank you was about! Aza24 (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Great, no rush. I'll try to have it OTD on the day of the first performance, and then it's not eligible for DYK anyway, besides being too late, and me not enjoying DYK much because ... --/forgot to sign)
Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hey, if you're not too busy, would you be interested in reviewing Jochi at FAC? If not, don't worry. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'll try to, but no promises :) Aza24 (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

ITN recognition for Richard Dyer (music critic)

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On 24 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Richard Dyer (music critic), which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 09:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. - I see that yu are busy, - will you still do the GA review? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

 

I thought of you when I saw this Monument to the Genius of Beethoven (Dem Genius Beethovens). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Of course I also thought of you for the songs by Hildegard of Bingen. Today Rohan de Saram - unbelievable story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Last push needed for Byzantine Empire FAR

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Hi Aza24, from your page header I can glean that you are busy with IRL stuff. However, the Byzantine Empire FAR was opened on 30 October 2023, and thus will complete a full year in 23 days. We should try to make a last push and have it kept before this month ends. Your help is needed for the rewrite of the Arts section. The Literature subsection is already done, now only the Architecture, Art and Music subsections remain. I think the Renaissance subsection already meets FA standards and doesn't need much work. Do you think these can be rewritten within 23 days? Please let me know if you can work on this. Matarisvan (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Matarisvan, I would love to finish up the arts section but am hesitant on the timeline. I've already started on art in my sandbox (User:Aza24/sandbox) and I am very familiar with Byzantine music already, so don't expect that to be too difficult, but whether I could finish it up this month is uncertain because of my busy schedule at the moment.
Another concern I have is that even if we did finish the rewrite this month, the article needs a bit more than that. We had spoken extensively on the talk page on how the overall structure is rather uneven but Biz has convinced us to return to that once the rewrite is complete. But there are many sections which ought to be removed entirely (the Renaissance one, for instance), or content that needs to be rethought (where/how to talk about iconiclasm). Aza24 (talk) 04:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I completely understand. If you could just wrap up the Music subsection, we would only have 2 subsections in the Arts section, namely Art and Architecture, left to be rewritten; since Literature is already done and Renaissance is up for removal. Also, I think we should at least put it up for comprehensive reviews at FAR before the 30th so we can spot any issues we might not be seeing now. I have seen reviewers spot obvious issues which frequent editors miss due to getting used to the article layout. Worst case, we go back to the drawing board, the review has advanced far enough that we may get very few FARC votes. Would you agree? Matarisvan (talk) 18:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

October 2024

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Information icon  Before removing a category to an article, as you did to Category:Musicians from Imperial China, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Please review the rest of the category trees. There is no reason to exclude a nationality like you're doing. Mason (talk) 03:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Smasongarrison, I don't think boilerplate templates for something between two experienced editors is anything but provocative. I'd suggest you look at the medieval music article; the topic is discussed by academic sources chiefly on Western Europe. There is no "narrow definition", this simply is the definition. Your insistence for including "Musicians from Imperial China" in "medieval musicians" is a complete invention for categories, which one would hope, at least pretend to follow RS. Would you add Ming Dynasty musicians to Renaissance musicians, and then Qing dynasty musicians to Baroque musicians? You are imposing a universality for a Western framework that does not exist.
Even if you ignore the above, Imperial China lasted from 221 BCE to 1912 CE, how exactly does that line up with 500–1400? Medieval China is a very specific period, c. 200 – 975 CE, how could any of this make sense? Aza24 (talk) 04:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
You know what... I don't think this is going to be a productive conversation. You do have reasonable points, however, I think you're the one imposing a western framework by removing the category by arguing that the era is only for westerns. Would you remove Category:Musicians of the medieval Islamic world because they're not western? Mason (talk) 04:49, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Smasongarrison, I feel we're still talking past each other. Unfortunately, these are problems of such bizarre nuance, that Wikipedia may be the only place in musicology which has ever faced them. I find it strange that you're convinced I am "arguing that the era is only for westerns". I am simply talking about the term "medieval music", not the Middle Ages. Every book/class/article etc. about medieval music talks about Western music during the middle ages, that is simply how the term is used. There is no such thing as a term to encompass deeply different and oftentimes completely unrelated musical cultures from the years 500–1400.
This being said... my best suggestion would be for a creation of a Post-classical music category (see Post-classical history), which would could then separate medieval music from Chinese, Islamic etc.. This is, of course, not a common term, but neither is the idea of a unified global music between the years 500–1400. Aza24 (talk) 05:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree that we're talking past each other. My point is that it looks like you are removing the category because they're not a western nation. I understand that you're arguing about the genre. But I don't think that the category is limited to a genre of musician. I think you're right that this category doesn't fit based on the centuries covered, but I think you should consider the fact that there are many other categories related to medieval occupations that aren't music or arts related. Mason (talk) 13:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

List of accolades received by Oppenheimer (film) -- source review

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