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The issue of ticket touting has a particularly high profile in the case of the FIFA World Cup, where FIFA has introduced measures such as named tickets in an attempt to prevent touting.

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• Sammy Sharp 182 (1) 1920-1928
• Jack Percival 174 (8) 1933-1946
• Billy Holmes 166 (4) 1896-1904 Full back, signed from Chesterfield.^[1] Ever-present in 1899-00 along with goalkeeper Williams and two other backs.^[2]
• Bobby Moffatt 163 (7) 1895-1903
• William "Buxton" Smith 153 (8) 1897-1902
• Tommy Kelso 151 (3) 1906-1913

• Bert Trautmann - FA
• Bill Leivers - Stub
• Roy Little - Stub
• Ken Barnes - GA
• Dave Ewing - Start
• Roy Paul - B
• Bobby Johnstone - Start
• Joe Hayes - Stub
• Don Revie - Start
• Jack Dyson - Start
• Roy Clarke - B

Ardwick's first match in the Football League took place on 3 September 1892, at home to Bootle. Watched by about 4,000 spectators in poor weather, Ardwick comprehensively beat their opponents. A five goal lead was amassed before half-time, and a further two were added in the second half to give a 7–0 victory.^[3]. Hugh Morris was the scorer of the club's first ever league goal.^[4]

Eight former Manchester City players have been inducted into the English Football Hall of Fame at the National Football Museum for contributions to English football as players. Peter Doherty and Denis Law were among the 22 inaugural inductees selected on 2002. Peter Schmeichel was inducted in 2003, Colin Bell and Bert Trautmann in 2005, Billy Meredith in 2007, Frank Swift in 2009 and Francis Lee in 2010. Former City players Matt Busby and Don Revie have been inducted for their achievements as managers, and Niall Quinn has been inducted for community work.

(needs citing, similar passages to be put in for Scotland and in List of Manchester City F.C. managers)

Early in Hatton's career his trainer Billy Graham compared him to Julio Cesar Chavez: "He reminds me of Julio Cesar Chavez in some ways; Ricky can pile on the pressure all night long, but he's just as comfortable as a counter-puncher. And like Chavez, his left hook to the body is excellent".^[5]

Samaras - 2006 here [2] Sun Jihai 16 between 2002 and 2005 [3]

Early in his career, Goater was marked out as inconsistent by then-Rotherham manager Phil Henson: "He is a wonderfully talented player with bags of ability - but he's frustrating. Sometimes he is awesome, other times poor."^[6]

Leather was inspired to try running after seeing a broadcast of the 100m and 200m at the 1952 Helsinki Olympics, and became a member of the Birchfield Harriers athletic club.^[7] Running was initially a way for her to maintain her fitness for playing hockey.^[8]

Leather gained a niche world record in August 1953. In a Great Britain v France meeting at White City, Leather anchored Great Britain "B" in a 3 x 880 yard relay. Leather maintained a lead over Great Britain "A" throughout her leg to bring her team home in a world record 6 minutes 49 seconds. ^[9]

The following month, shortly after fellow Briton Anne Oliver set a world's best for the mile of 5:08, Leather tackled the distance. She gained the world record with 5:02.6, but only held it until November, when Edith Treybal posted a time of 5:00.3.^[7]

Leather had a strong cross-country season in 1954. She won the English national championship, and took first place in an England v Scotland international meeting at Perry Barr ^[10]

Leather held the world record for over eight years, until it was broken by the New Zealander Marise Chamberlain in December 1962. Her 4:41.4 took 3.6 seconds off Leather's mark.^[8] Leather's time remained a British record until 1966, when it was surpassed by Anne Smith.^[11]

Her 1955 season also included setting new British records for 800m three times. As the season drew to a close she added a British record in the 400m.^[12]

At the 1957 AAA Championships, Leather became national champion at both 880 yards and the mile. This double of middle-distance events went unmatched by any woman for 39 years, until Kelly Holmes won the 800m and 1500m in 1996. ^[13] The same year, Leather also set a world's best at 1500m, in 4 minutes 30 seconds.^[14]

Leather was coached by Dorette Neal, a long-serving secretary of the Midland Counties WAAA.^[15]

After Diane's competitive career was over, the Charles family maintained links with the sport. Diane looked after the infant child of long jump world record holder Mary Rand while Rand was away at the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.^[16] Her husband Peter later gave financial advice and assistance to Daley Thompson ahead of his first Olympic Games in 1980.^[17]

A - Current

Name	Nat.	Position	Club career	Apps.	Goals	PotY	Refs.
Billy Meredith		Winger	1894–1906 1921–1924	393	151

B - Longest possible style

Wraps on my 1366x768 screen

C - All columns, lots of abbreviations

Just avoids wrapping on 1366x768

C - Flags instead of internationals

Name	Nat.	Pos.[19]	Club career	League		Cups		Europe		Other		Total		PotY	Refs.
				A	G	A	G	A	G	A	G	A	G
Shaun Wright-Phillips		MF	1999–2005 2008–2011	217	35	15	2	19	5	275	33	333	147	1	[stat 3] [PotY 1]
Chris Killen		MF	1999–2005 2008–2011	217	35	15	2	19	5	275	33	333	147	1	[stat 4] [PotY 1]

Good luck telling the Aussie from the Kiwi on a device like a tablet where you can't mouseover.

So, if tablets were meant to be able to do everything laptop and desktop PCs can do then they would cost the same amount of money. If you buy a cheap device you should expect cheap results from it. I'm not going to lose any sleep over most of the issues you have tried to address in your examples here other than the wrapping of basic / standard resolution screens. There is no requirement in Wikipedia that articles be 100% compatible with every handheld device under the sun. Compatibility with basic desktop PCs is a must, and given the advances in screen technology over the past decades, that requirement would carry over to laptop PCs too, and it has done for a long time now. If you can write a Wikipedia article that, because it has no requirement for images or tables, is pure text that can be usefully viewed on a postage stamp sized screen, then great - more power to you. But deferring from putting into an encyclopedia article images or tables that the article really needs simply on the basis that someone out there might one day on a whim wish to view the article on a device that cost him less money than the average Etch A Sketch is simply ludicrous. None of that is relevant although, as a test engineer myself, I do admire your desire to check this stuff out ahead of time.

BTW, you appear to be a master of the totally irrelevant and red herring argument. MCFC don't have any players from both Australia and New Zealand who have played more than 100 games so what you wrote above was a completely non-issue. I was about to write something stronger there and say MCFC don't have any >100 appearances players from down under period, but then I remembered Danny Tiatto. If only he knew exactly how crucial he is to the proper design and web sourcing of the tables in our article! :)

I will add some further table configurations, and possibly make some additional comments, in a new section below. 66.16.144.18 (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

D - No POTY column

E - Drop an appearance/goal column

No wrap at 1280, wrap at 1024

F - Drop both

No wrap at 1024 (iPad, Galaxy Tab), wraps on low res tablets (Kindle Fire 7", Nexus 7)

EVERY option wraps on mobile phones.

Good. Glad to here that. We don't need any of those formats anyway so it really doesn't matter whether they wrap or not! :)

Minimum required Table B format

Name	Nat	Pos	Club career	League		Cups		Other		Total		Additional		PY	Refs.
				A	G	A	G	A	G	Apps.	Goals	A	G
Shaun Wright-Phillips		MF	1999–2005 2008–2011	217	35	15	2	19	5	333	147			1	[stat 8] [PotY 1]
Eric Brook		FW	1928–1939	450	158	41	19	2	0	493	177	3 [A 1]	1		[stat 9]
Frank Swift		GK	1933–1949	338	0	35	0	2	0	375	0	3 [A 1]	0		[stat 10]
Peter Doherty		FW	1936–1939	119	74	11	5	1	1	131	80	3 [A 1]	2 [G 1]		[stat 11]
Tony Book		FB	1966–1973	244	4	48	1	23	0	315 [A 2]	5			1	[stat 12] [PotY 1]
Colin Bell		FW	1966–1979	394	117	74	27	24	7	492	151	8	1	1	[PotY 1]
Tommy Booth		CH	1968–1981	382	25	73	8	25	3	480 [A 2]	36	11	0		[stat 13]

Minimum required Table A format - with footnoted columns left-aligned

Name	Nat	Pos	Club career	League		Cups		Total		Po tY	Refs.
				A	G	A	G	Apps.	Goals
Shaun Wright-Phillips		MF	1999–2005 2008–2011	217	35	15		333	147	1	[stat 14] [PotY 1]
Eric Brook		FW	1928–1939	450	158	41	19	493 [A 1]	177 Cite error: The opening <ref> tag is malformed or has a bad name (see the help page).		[stat 15]
Frank Swift		GK	1933–1949	338	0	35	0	375 [A 1]	0		[stat 16]
Peter Doherty		FW	1936–1939	119	74	11		131 [A 1]	80 [G 2]		[stat 17]
Tony Book		FB	1966–1973	244	4	48	1	315 [A 2]	5	1	[stat 18] [PotY 1]
Colin Bell		FW	1966–1979	394	117	74	27	500	152	1	[PotY 1]
Tommy Booth		CH	1968–1981	382	25	73		491 [A 2]	36		[stat 19]

Table B format with international caps also included - that works well too!

Name	Pos*	Club career	League		Cups		Other		Total		Additional		PY	International selection	Refs.
			A	G	A	G	A	G	Apps.	Gols	A	G
Shaun Wright-Phillips	MF	1999–2005 2008–2011	217	35	15	2	19	5	333	147			1	36 full caps	[S 1] [P 1]
Eric Brook	FW	1928–1939	450	158	41	19	2	0	493	177	3 [A 1]	1		18 full caps	[S 2]
Frank Swift	GK	1933–1949	338	0	35	0	2	0	375	0	3 [A 1]	0		19 full caps	[S 3]
Peter Doherty	FW	1936–1939	119	74	11	5	1	1	131	80	3 [A 1]	2 [G 3]		?? full caps	[S 4]
Tony Book	FB	1966–1973	244	4	48	1	23	0	315 [A 2]	5			1		[S 5] [P 1]
Colin Bell	FW	1966–1979	394	117	74	27	24	7	492	151	8	1	1	48 full caps	[P 1]
Tommy Booth	CH	1968–1981	382	25	73	8	25	3	480 [A 2]	36	11	0		4 U23 caps	[S 6]

* See appropriate encoding in the Positions tactical evolution chart above.

Given that we know every player (except 2 HoF qualified players) is going to have an appearances total >100 (thus 3 digits in length) I quite like the left-aligned total apps format. Because goals totals can vary all over the place, from zero for GKs to 200+ for strikers, the left-alignment doesn't work as well with that column, so maybe that one should be centred. What do you think? 66.16.144.18 (talk) 05:07, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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