Talk:Ser
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GoT usage
edit"Ser is a gender-neutral form of Sir that has been used in ... A Song of Ice and Fire by George R R Martin (Although only men can be called 'Ser' in this case)."
This does not make any sense. In what way is Ser gender-neutral if it applies only to men?! 90.229.34.175 (talk) 11:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
There is no justification for paragraphs on this disambiguation page.
editI'm removing the entire beginning section of this page (with the exception of "Ser may [...] refer to:") for the following reasons:
- This is a disambiguation page; it doesn't need paragraphs.
- The terms from Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire and The Way hold no precedence over the other everyday applications of "SER" "Ser" and "ser". They should not be given undue weight.
- The claim that its earliest recorded use was in Song of Ice and Fire is pure GoT fan fiction, considering The Way was written before the Song of Ice and Fire.
- The uses in Song of Ice and Fire and The Way are sufficiently attested later in the page.
- The entire section reads poorly and is uncited.
I will add the uses in Dragon Age and Dragon's Dogma in a new section entitled "Video Games" Yabopomonofonomopo bay (talk) 06:34, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Just a note, "sera" (short for "muthsera"), and "serjo" were used in The Elder Scrolls series of video games, particularly by Dunmer and Khajit, and particularly in Morrowind. I will not be including them, because they are not "ser", though they may be appropriate here. Yabopomonofonomopo bay (talk) 06:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The whole "ser=sir" does not belong here. Disambig pages are for navigation among wikipedia articles, not for fanfic dicdefs; see WP:MOSDAB. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:55, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Then, I suppose every partial dictionary definition should just be taken off every disambiguation page... Get real! Not every topic that includes fantasy literature as its origin makes a subject fan fiction. Perhaps you should rethink your claims of being an "inclusionist": you just deleted material explaining the exponentially-increasing common use of a word that is heard by more people on a daily basis than the entire Albanian language. The information DOES belong on a disambig page, common usage dictates it, and I'm replacing it. Try and read the manual yourself, sometime. Yabopomonofonomopo bay (talk) 17:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, dicdefs are routinely deleted from disambig pages. Please also keep in mind that you may have encyclopedia articles about words. If there is "exponentially-increasing common use of a word ", then the common usage may dictate us to write an article about this usage, ser (address) (references, and all; we have an article "sir", don't we?), and then you are welcome to list this new article in this page. And personally I think that the article will be worthwhile, because I do believe that fandom is an important area. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:51, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Then, I suppose every partial dictionary definition should just be taken off every disambiguation page... Get real! Not every topic that includes fantasy literature as its origin makes a subject fan fiction. Perhaps you should rethink your claims of being an "inclusionist": you just deleted material explaining the exponentially-increasing common use of a word that is heard by more people on a daily basis than the entire Albanian language. The information DOES belong on a disambig page, common usage dictates it, and I'm replacing it. Try and read the manual yourself, sometime. Yabopomonofonomopo bay (talk) 17:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)