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Talk:List of Uralic languages

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Tropylium in topic Dialectology sprawl

Removal of Hypothetical ancestors section

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Every single one of the families listed in this section is at best disputed (Uralo-Yukaghir or Indo-Uralic) and at worst spurious (all the rest save Uralo-Siberian). I propose deleting the section altogether given that it contributes little to the article and does more harm than good spreading such disinformation.

At the very least, everything from Uralo-Siberian-Altaic (included) upwards should be removed and a disclaimer written alerting of the hypothetical nature of the remaining families.

Pepbob (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)PepbobReply

Dialectology sprawl

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While the current work is pretty decent by now, a list of languages does not by defininion call for extensive lists of sub-varieties (sometimes down to the scale of single villages as e.g. under Komi or Mansi). I would encourage editors interested in these to look into starting or working on separate main articles. We already have Hungarian dialects and an article section for Finnish dialects. Others that would be certainly beneficial for Wikipedia as well as definitely sourcable would include Estonian dialects, Erzya dialects, Moksha dialects, Mari dialects, Komi dialects and Udmurt dialects. Possibly eventually also e.g. Veps dialects, Northern Sami dialects, Southern Sami dialects, Tundra Nenets dialects (though for now the main language articles would be probably the best fot for these topics, as currently done e.g. at Votic language).

For Mansi / Khanty / Selkup where the "dialects" comprise basically separate languages, I suspect it would be a good goal to eventually move towards individual pages for the main dialect areas (Northern Mansi, Surgut Khanty, Northern Selkup etc.) with dialectology/classification discussion in the main "X language" pages, as is the current state for Sámi languages. --Trɔpʏliʊmblah 16:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Reply