Talk:Food/Archive 2

Why is there nothing in this article about the importance in human culture and society, being the center of social events, food based holidays like Thanksgiving etc.? Gobberpooper (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

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Food can make you fat if you eat too much of it. But if you dont eat enough of it you die.

Georgiathebugg (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

  Not done per WP:TALK. Non encyclopedic. e^xtra999 (talk) 11:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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Please change the Finnish lang link from fi:Ravinto to fi:Ruoka. The former means "Nutrition" but the second is "Food". 130.231.16.66 (talk) 12:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

  Done elektrikSHOOS (talk) 21:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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As it is still missing from the following list of international agencies and organizations working to monitor food safety and quality, we feel the European Food Information Council should be added. Please find in capitals our proposed modify:

Food safety and food security are monitored by agencies like the International Association for Food Protection, World Resources Institute, World Food Programme, Food and Agriculture Organization, International Food Information Council AND EUROPEAN FOOD INFORMATION COUNCIL . They address issues such as sustainability, biological diversity, climate change, nutritional economics, population growth, water supply, and access to food.

Reliable Source: http://www.eufic.org/page/en/page/ONEUFIC/

EuficMedia (talk) 15:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

  Not done: You need to provide evidence that the organization is notable. Also, you have a blatant WP:COI and your username is a violation of our username policy. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

food that is good for health has nutrients in it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.205.124.62 (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Fungi should also be included in the Food definition article. "The Kingdom Fungi includes some [very] important organisms, both in terms of their ecological and economic roles. By breaking down dead organic material, [fungi] continue the cycle of nutrients through ecosystems. In addition, most vascular plants could not grow without symbiotic fungi that inhabit their roots and supply essential nutrients."

"Living things are organized for study into large, basic groups called kingdoms. Fungi were listed in the Plant Kingdom for many years. Then scientists learned that fungi show a closer relation to animals, but are unique and separate life forms. Now, Fungi are placed in their own Kingdom."

Fungi includes foods like mushrooms, truffles and morels. Yummy!

Source: UC Berkeley ^{[1] [2]}

GregKaye 10:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Bob Simek 4.9.2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsim222 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

 

 

It looks to me that the images of food presented may, from the perspective of large sections of the world's population, be a Food, Glorious Food fantasy. The images are great but don't think that the content is representative of what most people are likely to regularly see. I don't think content is balanced and, if there aren't objections, whether a change or an addition of images would be best. GregKaye 10:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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  Not done You have not requested a change to the article. Please use a "change XX to YY" format. Datbubblegumdoe (talk) 13:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Under taste perception > Sweet there's a statement about how sweet stevia is that reads (to me, at least) like a commercial. Is stevia's sweetness notable? If it's the sweetest known chemical, for example, it would probably be worth mentioning. Should this be edited to explain why stevia's sweetness is encyclopedic, or should it be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintermute115 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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•   Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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change ((mineral))s to ((Mineral (nutrient)|minerals))

  Done EvergreenFir (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

• Institute of Food Research
• International Food Policy Research Institute
• Central Food Technological Research Institute
• Norwegian Food Research Institute
• Beijing Food Research Institute
• Plant & Food Research — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.38.105.161 (talk) 00:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Of course, GPS them before adding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.38.105.161 (talk) 00:56, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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A missing comma after the word 'birds' and before 'fish' on the last line of the Production heading on the Food page.

"they also provide services such as flood mitigation, groundwater recharge, erosion control and habitats for plants, birds fish and other animals." to be changed to "they also provide services such as flood mitigation, groundwater recharge, erosion control and habitats for plants, birds, fish and other animals." Nothingsb9 (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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Currently only the 5 common tastes are listed. Is it worth adding the research that is going into the discovery of the 6th taste for fat? Here is a possible source that contains a lot of information on the taste receptors/why it is evolutionarily important humans have fat taste receptors. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smi9127 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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Food is really good and it makes you feel like you are on crack. Nothing03 (talk) 08:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: Non-actionable request. Spintendo      08:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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Animal Facts.” PETA Kids, E-News, www.petakids.com/animal-facts/animals-used-food/. Team, Realbuzz. “7 Interesting Food Facts.” Realbuzz, Realbuzz, 2 Nov. 2017, www.realbuzz.com/articles-interests/nutrition/article/7-interesting-food-facts/.

U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. “Estimates of Foodborne Illness in the United States.” Centers for Disease Control and Pevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 15 July 2016, www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/2011-foodborne-estimates.html. Iliketochewonspoons (talk) 00:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

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If one clicks to see the WikiProjects that this article is connected with, one of them is South Africa. Why is this? Surely food can be produced in a lot of other countries besides South Africa. Vorbee (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Because it's in their primary school subproject. Graham87 07:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, There is a broken citation/reference link. I'd request you to either remove or replace with the relatable source. Sanaafreenahmed (talk) 13:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Not done. Sanaafreenahmed, exactly which ref is broken? How to deal with broken links is described at the relevant guideline. Graham87 14:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

The article should at minimum mention that the 5 tastes are disputed. SkrillixWasTooSoon (talk) 18:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Please replace the caption Population density of world regions with Population density by country. This doesn't show regions. If it did, western Russia, southeastern China, northeastern USA, and metropolitan France would be much darker than northeastern Siberia, Xinjiang, Alaska, and French Guiana. 208.95.51.38 (talk) 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

  Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I think there are 7 tastes: sweet, sour, salty, bitter, savoury, spicy, and don't forget tart. Julian Khachan (talk) 05:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Can we all contribute in developing a food section in all wikipedia pages of different countries? It would be extremely exciting and informative to know about the various cuisines and staple foods of all nations. 2004Åñïket10 (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

 

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Comida. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. PamD 11:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please move the "Foods from plant sources" image from the introduction down into the "Plants" section, or please move the "Various raw meats" image from the "Animals" section up into the introduction, just below the foods from plant sources. 208.95.49.53 (talk) 14:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done WP:MINOR. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

The article starts with

Food is any substance consumed to provide nutritional support for an organism.

Which I understand to mean the article is supposed to treat food for all organisms. But the rest of the article treats "only" food for humans. To me this seams wrong.

I see at least the following options to resolve that:

1. Restrict the current article to food for humans and make that clear in the introduction. Than have separate articles for animal food, plant food, … Link to those articles from food (disambiguation).
2. add at least overview information about food of other organisms to the article.

What would be the best way forward? Thanks, --S.K. (talk) 03:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

This subheading is not necessary and should be removed, because of another subheading called the classification and types of food. Any type of food that is not listed in the classification and types of food should be added to the list. Space chinedu (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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add to functional food definition

Functional Food Center coined the term for functional food as a natural or processed foods that contain biologically-active compounds; which, in defined, effective, non-toxic amounts, provide a clinically proven and documented health benefit utilizing specific biomarkers, for improving general health, for the prevention, management, or treatment of chronic disease or its symptoms. This has been the go-to definition used by many scientists. <https://ffhdj.com/index.php/ffhd/article/view/531/1093></https://ffhdj.com/index.php/ffhd/article/view/729/1307> AutumnAAllen (talk) 21:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@AutumnAAllen: Hi! We don't include neologisms until they have become established in the scholarship. Please consider aggregating more sources that work with that definition, Sadads (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I've noticed that the article for Food is very centered on human beings. However, there is a lot that can be written about food in general. I suggest splitting the article into multiple, one of which being called *Human food, and the others being spun off as needed. There is a lot of information on food, and a lot about human food ─ both can be beneficial to adding to the amount of useful and WP-helpful information on Wikipedia. VideōEtCorrigō (talk) 03:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi guys. Though the article was helpful but it isnt complete yet. There was no discussion on food arrangement on food timestable. I think there should be one in case users who needs guideline on forming their personal tomestable is checkind the article for one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdulsalam Toha (talk • contribs) 20:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Why does wikipidea always put disgusting food on there for their pictures like put pizza or pop corn not old or rotten food Iukhaya (talk) 21:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry if l am being rude but l was aloud to put my point of view okay so nobody must get mad and tell me to fuck off okay Iukhaya (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

So Iukhaya (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

  A discussion is taking place to address the redirect People food. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 19#People food until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Father Goose (talk) 03:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Accidental and improper capitalization of "Chips" in this section --2601:600:A37F:F111:886:D86A:1BA7:1E33 (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the note; fixed. Graham87 01:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Food adds energy to the body 136.35.7.77 (talk) 00:30, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

  Not done The article already says that food is "... assimilated by the organism's cells to provide energy" Le Marteau (talk) 00:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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I am wondering whether the following chart might be useful for this article, showing the different composition of some basic food: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nutrient_composition.png. Might fit into the definition section (where it says Food is mainly composed of water, lipids, proteins and carbohydrates...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:810a:8c0:6a14:9c2e:d45c:7661:84d6 (talk) 12:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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I think in the finger food section, the last line, the translations for the flat bread and such are in Chinese, when it stated “East Asian”. China isn’t East Asia.

Change “East Asian” to “Chinese” OR Use more translations. Pigeonspoos (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Pigeonspoos, China is in East Asia, at least according to our own Wikipedia article, so that is likely what the consensus is. --Ferien (talk) 20:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I've gone and changed it to Greater China to make it more specific. Graham87 04:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Present categories are superficial and useless, since each one contains many of the same foods by other classifications and people eat almost anything in any one of them.

Instead use the 19 food groups per the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO).

https://www.fao.org/gift-individual-food-consumption/methodology/food-groups-and-sub-groups/en/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4001:670:0:0:0:9003 (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

That classification system is mentioned already. I guess the point of the section is to say that there are various ways to classify foods. Aircorn (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

I personally think that the article should get rid of the whole List of food sections out and turn it into it's own list article, and make the Food article talk more about foods and diets other animals consume, and how food is digested, (with references with the decapitated chicken who consumed food through a person stuffing it into it's throat). The List of food sections take up too much of the article. G-Toasty (talk) 18:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Agreed ZackAshley (talk) 06:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:Food/List of foods Aircorn (talk) 16:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

@Aircorn Why not spin that into a list article directly? Sadads (talk) 14:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Because I am not really sure how. I can't really think of a title that really covers it. List of human food is so broad Classifications and types of food (how it was originally headed here) is also broad and not quite correct either. Even if it was created it would still have the same problems it was labeled for arbitrary list of topics, that are not really "representative" or well organized for readers -- should be organized in a more discrete, focused, readable way. And to be honest it is not really an article/list I want to work on to get it working even if it was possible to write it in a way that made sense. I do want to work on this article however and the list was not appropriate here. I also didn't want to lose the information. I will most likely even go through it and see if anything can be put back in in a more focused section here. If anyone thinks it could work they are welcome to turn it into an article. Aircorn (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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ok so i would like to add some clarifacation ok? ok Jake from state farm my guy (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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i would like to add diffrent fruits and their helpings Ktan6526 (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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I'm not previously involved, but I closed the mostly stale discussion above as split desired by consensus. Because I'm not satisfied with my close which is accurate but not conclusive, I'll comment myself and say that I believe the discussion seemed to desire a split of most of the direct detailing of human food and human food distribution from this article to a new pagespace, title and focus of which likely needs further consensus. I chose NOT to put this in the closure itself in order to put this page's editors more in control of the outcome. BusterD (talk) 19:10, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

The split has been confirmed - should I remove the template? סשס Grimmchild. He/him, probably 12:01, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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I want to add a section on food as consumed by plants, AKA photosynthesis. 我的兄弟姐妹太多了他們都很煩人 (talk) 07:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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We need a paragraph on this. There is a wikipedia article on hunger and the biochemical mechanism of hunger, but not about satience = the feeling of being full, not hungry anymore, satisfied food-wise. Thy, SvenAERTS (talk) 13:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

I very much agree on this matter. The paragraph authors of wikipedia should start making more articles about interesting subjects like satience. 88.167.168.2 (talk) 15:55, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Nitrogen fixation should be discussed. Plants can photosynthesize all the want, but they die without fixed nitrogen made by bacteria (or more commonly Haber-Bosch process). --Smokefoot (talk) 21:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I would like to add a section about gender connotations in food:

Generally, each species of the animal kingdom eats what is necessary to stay alive, whether males, females or baby animals. Food has no classifications, conditions or gender, it is eaten solely for survival instinct. However, there are exceptions where there are sex differences in food preferences. For example, female White_stork have been shown to tend to choose different types of birds for food, unlike males, who tend to prefer mammals. These differences are mostly attributed to differences in parental duties, physiology and anatomy of this animal.^[1]

In the human world, in addition to the physiology, anatomy and parental duties of each individual, there is a species-specific phenomenon that greatly affects food choices, namely Gender_role stereotypes. A gender-based stereotype about food has been developing over the years, where certain types of food have gender connotations.

Based on gender stereotypes depicting men as agentic and women as communal, ingrained in our day to day, people have cultural expectations about what a masculine man or feminine woman should eat and in what quantity.^[2] Moreover, these ideas are so ingrained in our day to day that the food intake and people ́s food choices can be influenced by the physical appearance of someone or the mere presence of others.^[3]

Unlike animals, humans tend to regulate the type of food they eat and the amount they consume as a method of expressing their Gender_identity.^[4] This distinctly human phenomenon leads people to engage in behaviors and eating patterns that are influenced, often unconsciously, by these stereotypes of feminine or masculine food, for example, the classic thought that meat is for men and salads are for women.

For meat supply and processing, powerful actions are needed, such as hunting, which represents strength, aggressiveness and virility. Due to the Patriarchy, these characteristics have been associated with men, so meat is a product with a masculine connotation that serves as a symbolic marker. On the other hand, femininity is more associated to the quantity of food, that is, to what women do not eat.^[5] For this reason, dieting or eating light has a feminine connotation, and is often mocked in the world of men. Foods such as vegetables, fish and fruits carry a more feminine tradition, with softer characteristics, more delicate care and easier supply.

By living in a social environment, individuals acquire and learn a masculine or feminine eating style, congruent to their gender.^[6] This eating style has an impact on their food-related practices and preferences, and also has social consequences. For example, on a global scale, it has been confirmed that both men and women who eat feminine foods are classified as more feminine than people who choose food with a masculine connotation.^[7] The above demonstrates the power that food-related gender stereotypes have in affecting personal gender identity, which is why people tend to avoid food that is incongruent with their reference group, because this does not follow the supposedly appropriate behavioral patterns of their gender.

To understand the effect of gender on eating and drinking behaviours, it is very important to consider culture, since the same phenomena do not occur everywhere. For example, in countries like the USA, spicy food is gender-stereotyped, where it is associated with masculinity. However, in countries like Mexico, there is a spicy and chili culinary culture where everyone eats this type of food without being gender dependent.^[8] Space and time play an important role in classifying foods as masculine or feminine. Camcar27 (talk) 14:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

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I'm not helping you add it. Similar text has been reverted in other articles you've added it to. It's grossly generalised. Graham87 (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

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