Talk:Cunnilingus

The etymology given is incorrect Latin, but I will say no more.Seadowns (talk) 11:44, 26 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Suggestions for altering the article This article is meant to teach and instruct, and illuminate sex for its readers. I find that writing that women "should maintain good hygiene" and "trim their pubic hair" before they receive oral sex, is exactly like telling them to eat less so they will not be heavy on their partner, or wear tighter clothes so they would be regarded as attractive….It's irrelevant, suggestive and offensive. I think it implies that vulvas are basically dirty and smelly. Trimming one's pubic hair is a matter of zeitgeist as well. Porn made hairless vulvas mainstream, but that doesn't mean vulvas SHOULD BE hairless. In fact, it exposes women to more bacteria. I'm referring to this: "Women may consider personal hygiene before practicing oral sex important, as poor hygiene can lead to bad odors, accumulation of sweat and micro-residue (such as lint, urine or menstrual blood), which the giving partner may find unpleasant. Some women remove or trim pubic hair, which may enhance their oral sex experience.". Furthermore, I see that in "anal sex", "fellatio", and "cunnilingus", there is this statement: "People may not want to practice it". I think it is odd and unnecessary. These articles are about sex between consenting partners, desired, wanted, sex. These articles can teach teenagers and young adults. So why is it necessary to add that some people won't want to have fellatio, anal, or cunnilingus? Some people don't want a fluffy bunny. I'm referring to this; People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.[1] The etymology part is amazing comically, but if we are being serious – giving head, going down, eating out, and eating pussy, are the main terms used in 2020 I guess, and not these wonderful terms. I'm referring to this jemstone: Additional common slang terms used are giving lip, lip service, or tipping the velvet; this last is an expression that novelist Sarah Waters argues that she "plucked from the relative obscurity of Victorian porn".[14] It is also popularly known in the urban community as dining at the Y or DATY. A person who performs cunnilingus may be referred to as a cunnilinguist.[15] Another jokey part that is unneeded – "spread eagle with ARMS and legs spread apart"? Hmmm. Referring to this: During the spreadeagle position, the woman's arms and legs are spread wide. Also, this article can include techniques in order to be more helpful for its young readers. B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.65.27.73 (talk • contribs)

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Change File:Wiki-cunnilingus.png to File:Cunnilingus-.jpg Michael Murfie (talk) 18:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Change the illustration to a photograph Michael Murfie (talk) 18:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Possibly controversial, so needs to be discussed first. I think the photograph is not an improvement over the one we have now. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

The main image should not prime the reader regarding the gender of the giving person. Currently the main image is of a giving woman. That image together with that by Édouard-Henri Avril where a man is the giving person, currently displayed further down, could be displayed side-by-side at the top of the article to clearly indicate that it as act performed by a member of any sex on the vagina of another person. Alternatively, two images of the same type should be used, or something gender-neutral.

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Also, please do not re-open 18 month old edit requests. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Use this image file:///OttomanCunnilingusOrientalism.jpg as it’s more artistic Michael Murfie (talk) 16:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

I add my support to this suggestion and raise the general objection that the current images provided by user "Seedfeeder" (read: a person who ejaculates sperm into the mouths of others) on this and other oral-sex-related pages are inappropriate because they apparently represent the user's self-titillating fetish artwork rather than academic illustration. I say "apparently" because every image I'm aware of provided by this user represents a stereotypical (primarily white) heterosexual male fantasy--beautiful, naked, cosmetically groomed (primarily white) women performing exhibitionist sex acts on a (primarily white) man, who is represented only by his (large) penis--except this article's image, which instead is two such women and no man. That is, the unifying logic of the set of images is that they exemplify stereotypical heterosexual patriarchal female sexual objectification (what a mouthful, no pun intended). Had the unifying logic been that heterosexual couples comprise the majority of sexual participants, for example, a man would have been depicted performing cunnilingus. I say the collection of images could be useful in an article discussing the male gaze, malignant patterns of representation, or injustice in the realm of gender and sexuality, but they have a malevolent effect here by uncritically presenting bias as supposedly benign when the content should instead be neutral and educational. 2600:6C67:447F:F316:84CF:4603:3268:1F07 (talk) 18:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)The Asexual OneReply

Please change File:Wiki-cunnilingus.png to file:///OttomanCunnilingusOrientalism.jpg 2600:6C67:447F:F316:84CF:4603:3268:1F07 (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Please note that both images are currently included in this article. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Oh goodness. So if Seedfeeder only does heterosexual images, that's heteronormative and bad. But then he does female homosexuality - nope, still bad, must just be for the male gaze. But then he also does male homosexuality - at frot and top, bottom and versatile - well, that goes unnoticed as inconvenient to this shaming. As for old paintings being implied to not be for self-titillation, have I got news for you. Crossroads ^-talk- 02:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Crossroads, you mischaracterize my actual points with your derisive dismissal. But rather than try to recover the possibility of discussion, I'll just come back if I develop a better alternative. 2600:6C67:447F:F316:84CF:4603:3268:1F07 (talk) 00:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC) The Asexual OneReply

The article describes that "barrier protection" can be used, but doesn't describe in detail what can be used and what's most effective (ie female condom, tongue condom, dental dam). Should be mentioned in article. --Genetics4good (talk) 11:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

I think this is a very important point. The current version plays down the risks of contracting STDs, by only comparing risks associated with unprotected sex. In reality, vaginal and anal sex is more often protected than cunnilingus, so the effective risks and transmissions may be much higher.

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  Not done - WP:NOTBLOG, not a WP:RS source. Zefr (talk) 02:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Naxos2000 (talk) 17:22, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Motivation for changes: Honestly, the current version of the article, in its opening section before "Etymology and terminology" plays down the risks of contracting STDs through cunnilingus. In addition, the photo and somewhat suggestive statements about virginity loss paint the article in a more Western light centered around controversies surrounding the homo- versus heterosexual debates than previous versions and than is representative of the world as a whole. I am a university professor for this kind of topics, and had several female students point this new version of the article out to me as if it was written with the intent that more women (and to a lesser degree men) give unprotected cunnilingus to women.

Image re-organization request: The main image should not prime the reader regarding the gender of the giving person. Currently the main image is of a giving woman. That image together with that by Édouard-Henri Avril where a man is the giving person, currently displayed further down, should be displayed side-by-side at the top of the article to clearly indicate that it as act performed by a member of any sex on the vagina of another person.

Change the following text from: "" Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person.[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.[7][8]

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Commonly, heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.[1] ""

Change the above to the following text (keeping all prior citations [1]-[11] and adding one new one from the Canadian Supreme Court):

"" Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed on the vulva or vagina of another person.[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.[7][8] Other than with vaginal, anal and oral sex performed on the penis, however, other forms of protection than standard penis condoms need to be used to reduce such risks.

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Many heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, as active penetration is regarded essential for the loss of virginity of the man, and rupture of the virginal membrane is regarded essential for the loss of virginity of the woman. By contrast, younger couples and many lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss for both parties, thus reducing the importance of penetration and rupture of the virginal membrane for the concept.[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.[1] Some countries, such as Canada, do not ban cunnilingus given by pets and animals such as by a dog.^[1] "" Naxos2000 (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

  Not done: The lead is a summary of the article, not a place to put whatever trivia you find in primary sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

What Adaplkk (talk) 19:07, 23 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person.^[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.^[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)^[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.^[1][2] Cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for vaginal or anal sex.^[7][8]

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,^[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Commonly, heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.^[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.^[1]

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Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed on the vulva or vagina of another person.^[1][2] The clitoris is the most sexually sensitive part of the human female genitalia, and its stimulation may result in a woman becoming sexually aroused or achieving orgasm.^[3][4][5]

Cunnilingus can be sexually arousing for participants and may be performed by a sexual partner as foreplay to incite sexual arousal before other sexual activities (such as vaginal or anal intercourse)^[1][6] or as an erotic and physically intimate act on its own.^[1][2] Unprotected cunnilingus can be a risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but the transmission risk for unprotected oral sex, especially HIV transmission, is significantly lower than for unprotected vaginal or unprotected anal sex.^[7][8] Protection requires special types of condoms.

Oral sex is often regarded as taboo,^[1] but most countries do not have laws which ban the practice. Many heterosexual couples do not regard cunnilingus as affecting the virginity of either partner as long as the virginal membrane is not penetrated, while lesbian couples commonly do regard it as a form of virginity loss.^[9][10][11] People may also have negative feelings or sexual inhibitions about giving or receiving cunnilingus or may refuse to engage in it.^[1] Some countries, such as Canada, do not ban cunnilingus performed by animals and pets.^[12] Naxos2000 (talk) 18:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC) Reply

  Not done: Again, the lead is a summation of the article, not a place to put trivia you found in a primary source. Please stop opening edit requests, and instead discuss the changes you'd like to make. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about this. I am new to this. I want to make the cunnilingus article more neutral. Several of my students (I am a prof on this) pointed out it is very biased, and I finally read it and agree a lot. Currently, I see a problem with the playing down of STDs as cunnilingus is rarely protected while anal and vaginal are often. Also, the main image should not be so priming, woman in the giving position, I think it should be several images showing the rich variety of who can give it. Finally, and quite horribly in my personal view, it ought to be stated that pet holder are allowed to make their animals do it in many countries (e.g. Canada). Naxos2000 (talk) 18:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Please change "performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of another person." to " performed by a person on the vulva or vagina of a female person."

No need to be ambiguous. Thank you 24.44.73.34 (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: Trans people exist. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

I understand but female refers to sex not gender 24.44.73.34 (talk) 10:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

ScottishFinnishRadish, while that's true, and the particular text in this article appears to be longstanding and it flows pretty normally as it is so I don't see a need to change it, FYI we do usually use words for the sex of a group of people in accord with the relevant reliable sources on a given topic. This is per community consensus stating that As outlined below, the terminology in articles, especially medical articles, is dependent upon the support of reliable sources and it is expected that editors would use the same terminology presented in said sources. In some articles people will make edit requests going the other direction - to replace "women" with "people with vulvas", say - and those get turned down; likewise sometimes there is a need to repair edits doing so. Crossroads ^-talk- 16:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Crossroads, you're more than welcome to make the edit yourself if you wish. A declined request isn't a hard ruling. As for the content issue, when dealing with describing a sex act I think that saying "another person" is a reasonable description that doesn't run into any of the issues that might arise when dealing with medical topics. There are all manner of situations, some not involving trans people, where cunnilingus can be performed on someone who is not female. Using general language covers all of those cases without leading to any imprecision that could pop up in articles on illnesses, pregnancies, genetics, or similar. Why not cover all of the use cases in a way that doesn't create any confusion? That's just my .02 though.
Also, is it cunnilingus if you perform it on yourself? I guess that might tilt things further in one direction or the other. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Cunnilingus preformed on oneself is autocunnilingus. Strangely that article also uses woman where person would suffice and be more accurate. Sideswipe9th (talk) 17:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

There have been studies and research done that link men performing oral sex on their partners to possible positive effects to the general health of those men. Due to low sample size and different methodology of the studies there is not an settled scientific consensus on whenever there is direct causation of those health-benefits due to the performance of cunnilingus by men. I still think this information should be included, perhaps in an "there is an scientific discussion here" kind of way. Also I think this would be good because of the media attention those studies have drawn (especially in sex-sensationalist publications).

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a47776/ways-going-down-on-you-is-good-for-his-health/

https://closeronline.co.uk/life-style/relationships/reasons-oral-sex-good-health/

https://www.yourtango.com/2017303359/proven-health-benefits-oral-sex-and-cunnilingus 2A02:3030:81B:6FBE:1:0:6259:F996 (talk) 10:31, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Please find sources that meet WP:MEDRS before adding anything about this to the article. I looked at the Cosmo article, and it's "Gee-whiz, I just pulled this stuff out of my ass right before the deadline"-type 'journalism'. Haven't read the other ones, but if they are anything like that, they are not anywhere close to suitable for this article. Mathglot (talk) 00:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

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