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Help needed at CopyPatrol (2)

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I had to do some RL things today and now we have 119 items in the queue at CopyPatrol. I need some helpers please. Pinging some recent participants: The4lines, GreenLipstickLesbian, Compassionate727, DanCherek, Ymblanter, L3X1, and Win8x. Any interested talk page watchers could do a few cases as well! Please stop by and help, even if you only have time to clear a few cases. Thank you very much! — Diannaa (talk) 22:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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thank you for your note. could you please specify what text you objected to and what was the source of copyright, that it violated? It seems, that these two pieces of infor should be provided for any deletion. Otherwise, I can delete anything on wikipedia claiming , that it violatyed some non-existing copyright. please be considerate of my request and try to put yourself in my position. I am really puzzled by your deletion. Walter Tau (talk) 12:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you canview the overlapping content using Earwig's tool. Source document is marked as "copyrighted, © 2005, by Princeton University Press. All rights reserved." — Diannaa (talk) 12:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Diannaa, thank you for your numerous copyright patrol contributions. Since, this is a second time you and I run in a dispute over limitations of copyright, I wonder if you are familiar now with the concept of Fair use. You mentioned in our conversation over a year ago, that Wikipedia follows US case law (I would like to see an evidence of it), however you always ignore the concept of fair use, which by the way is much broader in the USA than equivalent concepts in other countries.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter Tau (talkcontribs)
Wikipedia has a very strict copyright policy, stricter in some ways than copyright law itself, because our fair use policy does not allow us to copy material from copyright sources when there's a freely licensed alternative available. In this case the freely licensed material is prose that we write ourselves. — Diannaa (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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You removed some edit history on Baháʼí Faith in India from three different editors, including me. Mine was a table formatting cleanup, and most likely not the source of the copyright violation you were trying to clean up. Can you restore my edits or do I need to repeat the formatting? Cuñado ☼ - Talk 21:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry never mind. I see that my edits did make it onto the page. The history made it look like they were erased. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 21:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this happens sometimes, where intervening harmless edits get hidden, so that copyvio material is completely removed from the page history. Sorry about that. — Diannaa (talk) 21:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I saw you deleted content from one of my students in the article Blood–brain barrier - Wikipedia because of copyright issues. Would it make sense for you to also intervene in the edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lymphatic_system&diff=prev&oldid=1247322775 obtaining material from the article https://www.nature.com/articles/s41568-024-00728-0 or do you consider the editing of the original text sufficient? Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 09:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Olle Terenius (UU), I can't view the soure article because it's behind a paywall. I will have to leave it up to you as to whether or not it's adequately rewritten. — Diannaa (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shawn_Brant&action=history

Please explain. 67.193.233.211 (talk) 14:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Canada, government works are protected by copyright for 50 years from publication date. — Diannaa (talk) 14:51, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5.1 May I establish a hypertext link to a CanLII Website page?
Yes, you may establish hypertext links to any page of the CanLII Website. However, under our terms of use, it is prohibited to do so in such a way as to create confusion or make it appear that the hyperlinked document does not come from the CanLII Website. 67.193.233.211 (talk) 14:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If they are publishing material in violation of someone else's copyright, you should not link to it or use it as a citation. WP:ELNEVERDiannaa (talk) 14:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
so the 50 year rule doesn't apply now but it is someone else's content posted on Canlii that you are flagging. A Superior Court Decision. What about citation [3] in the article that points to a dead .pdf file on a defunct OCAP.CA site, why would you reinstate that bad link.
please direct me to wiki complaint talk link 67.193.233.211 (talk) 15:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't reinstate a bad link. That link was there when I arrived, and it's still there. If you wish to complain about my work, you might try filing a report at Wikipedia:Administrative action review or at WP:AN. — Diannaa (talk) 15:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lets see how this plays out Diannaa. I have removed Citation 3 because it was not verifiable. Ocap.ca .pdf. - The specific Shawn Brant Wiki article indicated help for improvement and citation updates. Not being able to provide Case Law information seems unjust to this article. Just trying to be helpful. 67.193.233.211 (talk) 15:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COPYRIGHTED SOURCE VIOLATION

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hello Dianna, I have violated a wikipedia rule by mistake and I am unsure what to do to fix it, please let me know what to do next because I am scared it is very serious. Clausewitez (talk) 21:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which article? I already fixed one on Numidian cavalryDiannaa (talk) 22:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes thankyou for that, but also now everytime I wanna make an edit I have a message talking about my violation of copyright. how do I fix that message pop up ? Clausewitez (talk) 18:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay to remove the message from your talk page if you want to. — Diannaa (talk) 20:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please help me out

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Hi. I'm posting here what I posted on FormalDude's page. Please forgive me for not being super Wiki-literate yet. I was just looking for some help and noticed that FormalDude isn't an admin so I found your page, Diannaa:

Hi FormalDude. Could you take a look at the NYU Law Review's page? This user "Randykitty" for some reason feels the need to erroneously remove our logo from our page. You reversed him once already last year but he just removed the logo again (for the same reason you'd reversed him) claiming the logo isn't being used by the Law Review. Here is evidence of the Law Review using the logo that's on the Wiki page (that Randykitty will for some reason try to remove again): https://www.instagram.com/nyulawreview/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/nyulr/ https://twitter.com/nyulawreview Nyulrlogo (talk) 22:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you say "our logo"? do you work for the NYU Law Review? — Diannaa (talk) 22:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I had a discussion with Dr. Mahmood Sariolghalam, and he asked me to modify his page by adding the content he specified and also revising or removing the previous content.

All changes were made with his approval. Moein29 (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your interest in working on Wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder or have their permission, unless special documentation is in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.
The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 13:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Diannaa: After reading the apparent plagiarism, let me clarify, and looking at the situation carefully, that the plagiarism is committed by the page you sent me because it is [badly] translated from the same article of Wikipedia in spanish. I try to follow the same pattern but placing the respective sources and suitable for Wikipedia in english. JeanMercier90 (talk) 14:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay to do that, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of the license. I've added the attribution for this particular instance, as well as the optional talk page template. Please make sure that you follow this licensing requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. Please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Translating from other language Wikimedia projects for how to include the required attribution via an edit summary. Sorry for the mistake. — Diannaa (talk) 17:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK. It is human to make mistakes. And thank you for reversing what you did. Regardless, I still have work to do. Thanks and best regards. JeanMercier90 (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello,

I see you tagged the Army Men article I did as a copyright issue. May I ask why and what gave you that conclusion? Krisfrosz133 (talk) 02:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the content you added is a match for material at https://www.giantbomb.com/army-men/3025-36/, which is not compatibly licensed. — Diannaa (talk) 14:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

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Thank you! -- Diannaa (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

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Dear Diannaa,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]
story · music · places

Congratulations! - Did you know that I always thought you were here much longer than I was? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were actually here before me, by a couple months!-- Diannaa (talk) 12:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Dianaa...trying to fix a broken ref at this article, and it looks like it occurred at this edit, but I'm not sure what you were trying to do? Valereee (talk) 15:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The ref I removed was a link to a photograph, which is not a useful citation. Looks like I accidentally left behind some stray code. I will remove it now. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uainstituteldn

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Why did you block them for having a -bot suffix? They do violate the username policy but I think you confused them with the bot suffix template. Just wondering your thoughts :), Thanks, Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 16:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will fix this. Thanks for pointing this mistake out. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Diannaa. Good to see you still steaming along. We had an exchange some years ago about how to attribute the use of free-content text. Related to this is a further issue about the attribution template, which arose from this thread.

The Wikipedia explanatory essay on copyright violations and plagiarism now states:

It is acceptable to copy text from public domain sources or those that are explicitly licensed under a compatible licensing scheme. However, if you decide to do so, a dedicated attribution template must be used, and it's simply not enough to only mention the references and use inline citations.

If you look, for example, at the CC BY-SA 4.0 license, it states:

Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.

But the attribution template does not seem to make any provision for when copied text is changed. Even if the text was not changed by the editor who initially inserted it, it is liable to subsequent modification by other editors. It seems to me that this fact should be accommodated from the outset by the template. This means that, unless the text is quoted, instead of saying "This article incorporates text from this source..." the template should say "This article incorporates modified text from this source...". — Epipelagic (talk) 21:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Epipelagic! good to see you too. I have been aware of that clause in the license for a while but I think the modification clause would be difficult/impossible to enforce, because our articles are constantly being modified. (The previous version CC-by-3.0 required reporting of dervative works; I'm not sure we have always been doing that properly either, even for images.)
If you know from the outset that the text you are inserting is modified, you could use a manual attribution instead of a template. Something like this:
[[File:CC-BY icon.svg|50px]] Text was copied/modified from this source, which is available under a [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)] license.
Advantages to using the templates: (1) it places the articles into Category:Articles with imported Creative Commons licensed text; (2) Earwig's tool can see these templates and alerts patrollers to the fact that a template is present.
If you wish to suggest a modification to the template, the template talk page would be a better place to discuss it. -- Diannaa (talk) 22:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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When someone intending to contribute a new article to Wikipedia assembles materials on a draft-stage page, it is not helpful for misguided copyright material checking/removal to interrupt composition of the draft by modifying (reducing) the draft. The assumption must be that the draft page author intends to properly handle all raw materials assembled on the draft page (including content snips being referenced), before the draft page completes preparation into proper form and is submitted. Copyright material scanning, with flagging and/or text removal, must be reserved for review stage articles and for published articles (not draft stage articles). So please stop! 63.231.131.222 (talk) 20:07, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but our copyright policy applies to all parts of the encyclopedia, including sandboxes, drafts, talk pages, and user talk pages. If you must collect and copypaste prose from your sources, please do it offline in a Word document or in Google Docs or the like. You can't do it here. Thanks. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening madam, given that the historical novel link goes to an article called historical fiction which is a genre, would it not be correct to write it that way on the article itself? Even if somewhat clunky, you know — “historical fiction novel” as I had written it. Or better yet historical fiction novel.

Best, Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All novels are fiction; there's no need to add the word "fiction" when you've aready called it a novel. To put it another way, "historical fiction novel" is clunky and duplicative, and has no place in a Good Article in my opinion. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:48, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point, I just believed that if a link went by exact wording then perhaps so should the above article. Though it seems that was I wrong which is more than fair enough.

Regards, Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 01:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD2 Request

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Hello, Special:Permalink/1252840350 seems like something eligible for WP:RD2. The edit itself may be fine, but the edit summary needs to go. Thanks, 2pou (talk) 07:16, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for the report. -- Diannaa (talk) 12:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Order (Nazism)

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My PC keeps timing out because of size... I can't investigate New Order (Nazism) if you have time pls see. Moxy🍁 16:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It took forever to load. Several large quotations skew the results. I was able to locate and remove some copyvio. -- Diannaa (talk) 19:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Moxy🍁 23:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ada and abaren

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The Wikipedia page on Ada and abaren is a fake history written by yoruba revisionists. The Ada and Eben swords are academically proven to be the swords of authority of the Oba of Benin.

The Oni of ife copied those swords and rather than acknowledging the original owner, he created a fake story in which the sword originates from an imaginary ife empire and was given to Benin and others by ife. This story is being propped up on Wikipedia by yoruba supremacists.

Please could you take African history more seriously and stop publishing biased claims and fairytales as history ?

Please remove this story, you are helping to rewrite African history with these fake stories. 2A04:CEC0:1926:E62C:0:31:8BE6:EE01 (talk) 19:44, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't know anything about this topic, so I won't be able to help. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy (Di)annaaversary

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Sdkbtalk 04:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!-- -- Diannaa (talk) 04:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies of Griggs, Paskell, and Smith

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These biographies were deleted for "copyright" issues. I am the copyright holder of this material. Please see the footer of this sight: https://whitemountainart.com. You threaten to block me for using my own material. What can I do to remedy this situation? JJ (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder or have their permission, unless special documentation is in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.-- -- Diannaa (talk) 18:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

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Thank you!-- -- Diannaa (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Admin Anniversary!

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Happy anniversary! I have added your talk page to my watch list because I get so much info from it that I hope will preclude me from making violations in my work on articles. Always informative, occasionally amusing, your page has helped me. Thank you! Boo Boo (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! -- Diannaa (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 222, October 2024

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Full front page of The Bugle
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The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Tetelbaum

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Hi Dianna,

I think that page "Alexander Tetelbaum" was deleted by mistake. This page exists for more than 20 years and has true info and supporting links.

I made minor changes around 4/24, when I added a newly published book "Executive Director". Until 10/29 it was no issues with this addition.

I think I accidentally triggered some issues when on 10/29, I tried to add a new page " 'Executive Director' Book". On this page, I had 2 references: 1--to "Alexander Tetelbaum" page and 2--to the book "Executive Director" (at Amazon).

I would highly appreciate it if you restored the deleted page. Sorry if I cause any trouble.

Best regards, Natalie Heroux. 2601:644:8181:930:B061:CD45:30FE:2343 (talk) 15:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I checked carefully and found that all the content was copied from their biography at Amazon, right back to the creation of the article in 2007. If you want to try again please consider starting the article in draftspace, as there were notability issues as well (though I did not delete it for that reason). See Wikipedia:Drafts for details on how to create a draft. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fair use, or PD unmet threshold of originality

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I see you marked it as fair use. I've seen bland logos like this often marked as PD of below threshold of originality. Care to comment on this? File:Ctglogo.jpg Graywalls (talk) 13:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which logo are you talking about? A link would be great. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ctglogo.jpg Seems like just lettering and a partial circle around it wouldn't pass "threshold of originality", so shouldn't this be PD? Graywalls (talk) 23:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it looks okay. The original 2007 upload will have to remain hidden though, as it is a different, more elaborate logo. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed at CopyPatrol (3)

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Hello everybody. We currently have about 105 items in the queue at CopyPatrol. I need some helpers please. Pinging some recent participants: The4lines, GreenLipstickLesbian, Compassionate727, DanCherek, Ymblanter, L3X1, and Asilvering. Any interested talk page watchers could do a few cases as well! Please stop by and help, even if you only have time to clear a few cases. Thank you very much! — Diannaa (talk) 22:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pings may not have worked. Re-sending:The4lines, GreenLipstickLesbian, Compassionate727, DanCherek, Ymblanter, L3X1, and Asilvering-- -- Diannaa (talk) 18:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to those who helped clear the backlog. It allowed me time to do wacky things like taking a 7-hour break from Wikipedia lol. Right now there's a free showing of Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 11/9 on You Tube-- -- Diannaa (talk) 03:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. I see you tagged the article for long quotations. Guilty as charged. I just want to point out that such a controversial subject may require long quotations. For example, when I read the titles of the articles about Madeleine Albright's book, I though she had plainly said Trump is no fascist, but the reviewers disagreed with her. It took reading all the articles to realize that is not exactly the case, and that some of the events she said would make her to declare Trump a fascist have come to pass - but not exactly as she expected (Covid, Ukraine, inflation?). Could I convey the subtlety of a diplomat's words better than Ms. Albright herself? In the other cases, are bare titles enough to make the content understandable and their value appreciable? Specially when the main argument of the editors who want to delete the article is that the sources are mere attacks or opinions? Maykiwi (talk) 23:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations don't make for engaging prose. Our readers are not going to read material hidden in the citations. Your article should be prepared with our readers in mind, not to protect it from deletion at AFD. You could remove the quotations from material readily available online. For example, you've copied the abstract from a journal article. Diannaa (talk) 23:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Ned Lamont

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Ned Lamont has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I suspect copyvio here, but am not really a specialist in this area, so I'd appreciate highly if you could have a look at this. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 13:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay to make a version of a seal or crest using the original blazon. If you look at the seals in the "other versions" section, they are all pretty much the same.--Diannaa (talk) 13:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Copyright Servite et contribuere (talk) 15:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I definitely don’t want to steal copyright from the North Sydney Bears. I was a bit surprised about copyright, I just want evidence it was copyright please Servite et contribuere (talk) 15:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Song lyrics are always copyright, and we're not allowed to include them. Sorry, Diannaa (talk) 19:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 6 November 2024

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Article improvement suggestion

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Hello @Diannaa. Your article is a great start! To make it even better, consider adding more references to reliable sources. This helps verify the information and improves the article's quality. Check out this Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources for more details. Wyatt playz 32 (talk) 17:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]