Talk:Straits of Tiran

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Not clear if "strait" or "straits" is more correct - the plural is more common according to Google, but for instance the official text of the Egypt-Israel peace treaty says "Strait of Tiran". In general govt websites are inconsistent though. Does anybody have a definitive source? Stan 04:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Straits is obviously more correct, as there are more than one, formed by the islands. Only the one nearer Egypt is deep enough to be navigable for large ships. Probably the treaty and other sources use the singular because they are referring to this one, the use of which all the controversy was about.--John Z 17:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)--John Z 17:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it equally true that the Straits of Tiran is the only path to Jordan's sole port, that being Aqaba? It's not just Eilat up there.. .--Commking 22 Sep 2005

Could someone provide a source for the recently added statement that "These straits have been declared international waters by the World Court"? I've googled around for a source, and I cannot find one. If this has been decided so, it would seem to be contrary to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea which puts the strait within 12 mile national waters, but gives rights of "innocent passage" to international shipping. -- Rwendland 09:19, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources:

• Legal Status of the Gulf of Aqaba and the Strait ofTiran: From Customary International Law to the1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, Ann Ellen Danseyar, Boston College International and Comparative Law Review Volume 5,Issue 1, Article 512-1-1982, 1982.
• Passage Through the Strait of Tiran and in the Gulf of Aqaba, Leo Gross, Duke University.

    ←   ZScarpia   17:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Although I understand that the Straits of Tiran are important to Israel, they are not part of Israel. So why does this page have the geography of Israel stub? If there's no opposition, I'll delete it. Picaroon9288 01:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, then this page shall no longer have that stub. Picaroon9288 19:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm requesting a new map for this page because the one currently there is copyrighted. It was tagged as "fair use", but this is clearly not the case. --dm ^(talk) 20:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out the map was CIA-created and thus public domain so I've restored it and withdrawn my map request. --dm ^(talk) 16:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how about this one http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/mjacobs/Maps/Israel_67Map.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/mjacobs/US-MERelations/Spring%25202009/AIP-1960s.html&usg=__ytGLgqnohHmuvsrMm3laBRaVAWQ=&h=864&w=485&sz=57&hl=en&start=29&sig2=TZ-FSBivQmaFOFF4uJlvlw&zoom=1&tbnid=-Tuhfm2uDVU5vM:&tbnh=148&tbnw=83&ei=FA9YTYjDNZGDtgfw1PGhDQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstraights%2Bof%2Btiran%2Bmap%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D799%26tbs%3Disch:10,378&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=362&oei=XA5YTZa1I4H6lweB7rDvBg&page=2&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:29&tx=47&ty=72&biw=1440&bih=799 I dont know how to add it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.70.197 (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's obviously a biased wording. It should read "questioned". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.60.90.146 (talk) 19:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask you to change the external link "Descriptions, pictures and videos of some Straits of Tiran dive spots" from http://www.pro-taucher.com/tiran.html to https://www.pro-taucher.com/dive-sites/africa/egypt/strait-of-gubal/ in the Straits of Tiran Wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Tiran ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CCRoi (talk • contribs) 21:28, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]