Talk:Hilton Worldwide

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Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. Requests No. 1 through 3 were implemented. Request No. 4 uses peacock terms and was declined.

On behalf of Hilton, I am requesting some updates to the Hilton Worldwide Wikipedia article:

1. As has previously been discussed on this talk page (see this archived section), I believe it is incorrect to include "owners" in the infobox in any capacity. Since Hilton Worldwide is a publicly traded company, it is actually incorrect for anyone to be called an "owner" and the parameter guidelines for the infobox say (my bold): "Use this parameter to list ownership percentages for private companies owned by a few key individuals or to list ownership percentages for joint ventures, if applicable. Do not use this field for publicly traded companies. When listing a company as an owner, use the full legal name of the entity that holds the ownership stake in the article's subject company." Therefore, I propose removing HNA Group, The Blackstone Group, and Wellington Management Group from the infobox to make the article more compliant with guidelines.

2. The following sentence can be updated, per this source: "As of March 2017, its portfolio includes around 5,000 properties (including timeshare properties) with about 825,000 rooms in 103 countries and territories." The sentence should read, "As of September 2017, its portfolio includes approximately 5,100 properties (including timeshare properties) with nearly 838,000 rooms in 103 countries and territories."
Here's markup for use as an inline citation:

<ref name="Fact sheet September 2017">{{Cite web|url=http://newsroom.hilton.com/assets/HWW/corporate/HLT.CorporateFactSheet-OCT2017FINAL.pdf |title=At-A-Glance September 2017 |accessdate=November 3, 2017|date=September 30, 2017|format=PDF|publisher=Hilton}}</ref>

3. The same source can be used to update the number of Hilton Honor program members, within the "Hilton Honors" subsection. "The program is one of the largest of its type, with about 65 million members" can be updated to "The program is one of the largest of its type, with approximately 69 million members".

(@Altamel: You've mentioned your dislike for the phrase "more than", so I made sure to use "about" and "approximately" in the above requests. Hopefully these updates seem reasonable to you and others.)

4. I propose adding mention of an additional recognition in the "Company culture" subsection, following the sentence "In 2016, Hilton was named one of the "World's 25 Best Multinational Workplaces" by Fortune and Great Place to Work." I suggest adding, "The company ranked number nine on the "World's Best Workplaces" list, which was published by the same magazine and Great Place to Work, in 2017.", per this source.
Here's markup for use as an inline citation:

<ref>{{Cite journal|url=http://fortune.com/2017/10/26/worlds-best-workplaces/|title= The World's Best Workplaces|date=October 26, 2017|accessdate=November 3, 2017|work=Fortune}}</ref>

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding these 4 requests. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@St170e: You've helped with several edit requests for this article, so I figured I'd ping to see if you'd be wiling to help out again. If not, I'll try to find a WikiProject Companies member who may be willing to assist. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason (talk) 18:55, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Partially implemented  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  13:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: Thank you for reviewing this edit request and for implementing the first three parts. As for the fourth part, does "peacock terms" apply when used in the name of the recognition itself, or is there a way to mention this recognition without using peacock wording? Inkian Jason (talk) 15:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Inkian Jason: Thank you for your question. In regards to Request #4, the information in the Fortune reference originated on GreatPlaceToWork.com. Under their User Guidelines, it states, in part: "You acknowledge that the Site contains the opinions and views of other users for which GPTW is not responsible. You acknowledge further that GPTW is not responsible for the accuracy of any User Content posted on the Site. You understand and agree that you shall evaluate, and bear all risks associated with the use of any User Content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such User Content."

While the Fortune piece does state that GPTW collated the data for their survey ("Fortune partner Great Place to Work surveyed employees in offices across the planet.") the information provided by GPTW does not reasonably assure a difference between an authority at GPTW as the single source of the information, or a simple user, as defined in their User Guidelines. Therefore, it cannot be stated with certainty that the information appearing in the Fortune piece is accurate. Without a testament to accuracy, terms such as World's Best Multinational Workplace become peacock terms, with no reliable authority backing their usage. Needless to say, the most reliable surveys are ones where the methadology used is subject to peer review. Wikipedia strongly suggests using surveys of this kind.

Regards,

 Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  19:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: I assume most websites with user content in any form have that term, but I'm not sure it means that their own content may be user generated. The wording simply allows GPTW to not assume responsbility for comments made by other users. GPTW clearly defines between user content and its own content, so I'd like you to reconsider. @Altamel, BarrelProof, and Conifer: Pinging you three, in case you care to weigh in, and since you've assisted with other edit requests on this talk page. Thank you, all. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Inkian Jason:"GPTW clearly defines between user content and its own content" It certainly wasn't made on the page where the information regarding the Hilton survey was shown. But perhaps I've overlooked something. Where does GPTW make this definition? Please advise.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  21:42, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see where GPTW expands upon the methadology used in their surveys. Conversely, this New York Times piece from three years ago puts it succinctly how GPTW surveys and those like it can be problematic.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  22:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, if I understand correctly, the concern is that the survey for the ranking is not sound in its methodology so not appropriate here. In that case, I'll consider this request complete and closed. Thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Resolved

Hello, I am back with an additional edit request on behalf of Hilton. This time, I am providing sourcing for content in the "Hilton in popular culture" section, where there is currently a tag. I have provided markup below, and noted content changes further down in the edit request:

Markup

Keith Richards and Mick Jagger performed in the East Penthouse on the 45th floor of the New York Hilton on October 28, 1965.[1] The piano they used still sits in that room today. John Lennon and Yoko Ono honeymooned in the presidential suite at the Hilton Amsterdam where they hosted their famous "Bed-In" for a full week in 1969.[2] In 1971, Diamonds Are Forever was filmed at the Las Vegas Hilton.[3] On April 3, 1973, Dr. Martin Cooper made the world's first cell phone call in front of the New York Hilton Midtown. A press conference was held at the hotel later that day to mark the milestone.[4][5] The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner was filmed at the Fontainebleau Hilton in Miami in 1992.[6][7] In 1995, the James Bond movie GoldenEye was filmed at the Langham Hilton.[8][9] The Insider was filmed in 1999 at the Seelbach Hilton.[10] In 2006, several movies including Spider-Man 3,[11] Michael Clayton and American Gangster were filmed at the New York Hilton.[12][13] Conrad Hilton (played by actor Chelcie Ross) features as a major character in the third season of Mad Men, as lead character Don Draper creates a series of ad campaigns for Hilton Hotels.[14] The Drapers travel during one episode to the Cavalieri Hilton in Rome,[15] though the scenes were actually shot at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles.[16] At the rotating wheel space station in Stanley Kubrick's film 2001: A Space Odyssey, visitors can stay at a Hilton hotel. Hilton's logo appears prominently in the space station's lounge.[17][18]

Content changes:

• Currently, the article says Diamonds Are Forever was filmed at Flamingo Hilton. However, according to sourcing, and the Westgate Las Vegas Resort & Casino article, the film was shot at Las Vegas Hilton, so I've updated the sentence and link accordingly.
• Currently, the sentence about Martin Cooper mentions the "New York Hilton". I disambiguated the property by replacing with "New York Hilton Midtown" and added links to Wikipedia articles for both the property and Martin Cooper.
• For the sentence starting "In 2006, six movies...", I changed "six" to "several".

Finally, I should note, I was able to find a Hilton source to confirm the performance by Keith Richard and Mick Jagger. However, I struggled to find secondary coverage, and I am not sure about sourcing to confirm: "The piano they used still sits in that room today." I will let the reviewing editor decide if these sentences are worth keeping, or assist with finding appropriate sourcing.

If editors are comfortable replacing the current "Hilton in popular culture" section with the above markup, then I hope the tag that says "This section needs additional citations for verification" can be removed. Thanks again for your help. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:38, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Implemented Thank you for sourcing these.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  20:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: Thanks for your help. I'm not sure I agree with removing the "External links" section, which almost all company articles have, but I won't press the matter and I appreciate you reviewing this request. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Suite Life of Zack & Cody is set in a "Tipton" hotel, an homage to the Hilton hotels. Like Hiltons, the Tipton hotels are an international chain; the series focuses on its Boston location, which the Hilton also has (Hilton Back Bay), and contains the character "London Tipton", a rich young woman parodying Paris Hilton, both of whom have a true blood relation to their namesake hotel chain's founder.

Would this be a close enough connection to add to the Popular Culture section, or should the section only include instances of actual Hilton hotels? SomeDee (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should be covering wokeness in room design by brands such as Hilton. Things that are anethetical to human prosperity such as blinding lights all night that are intended to sense occupancy and turn the lights off. Or thermostats that are made to not be set at temperatures that guests want them at. And things that guests do to try to work around these ridiculous measures such as taping portable handwarmers to thermostats so that they can cool the room to an appropriate temperature.

Hey by the way if you’re reading this in the Hilton hotel room, getting a portable handwarmer from the outdoor section of your store and taping it to the cooling thermostat really helps it to cool properly. Wiki-pee-idea (talk) 03:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]