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The entry on David Koch needs to be less comically propagandistic and darkly lacking in credibility. As it stands, the entry is a potentially considerable indictment of an underlying lack of credibility of wikipedia as a whole.

This should be added:

The Aug. 27 2019 Guardian described David koch's activities in these terms: "Koch Industries, a private company, is the United States’ 17th-largest producer of greenhouse gases and the 13th-biggest water polluter, according to research from the University of Massachusetts Amherst – ahead of oil giants Exxon Mobil, Occidental Petroleum and Phillips 66. The conglomerate has committed hundreds of environmental, workplace safety, labor and other violations. It allegedly stole oil from Indian reservations, won business in foreign countries with bribery, and one of its crumbling butane pipelines killed two teenagers, resulting in a nearly $300m wrongful death settlement. The dangerous methane leakage, carbon emissions, chemical spills and other environmental injustices enacted by Koch’s companies have imperiled the planet and allegedly brought cancer to many people."

That Guardian article is an opinion piece and therefore not reliable as a source for statements asserted as fact.WP:RSOPINIONWritethisway (talk) 19:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is it appropriate to include warnings about phishing attempts using Mr. Koch's name when the message in question explicitly includes a link to this article on Wikipedia? The email in question is a fairly standard setup - "this millionaire died and left 2 million dollars to a bunch of randomly selected individuals." Completely uninventive BS, but it claims that you can verify that the grant exists. A section in the article explaining the scam might help save the people gullible enough to believe it. Rashkavar (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - they are floating around again now. Let's try. Springnuts (talk) 19:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Rashkavar, I found a suitable template and added something. Springnuts (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. This is a bad idea William M. Connolley (talk) 20:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. No specific violation of WP:ISNOT, but the info is not encyclopedic. – S. Rich (talk) 22:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@William M. Connolley and @S. Rich: well it was a bit WP:BOLD. But surely the information is (at least arguably) noteworthy; the issue is how to present it. I'll try something in the body of the article: see what you think. Springnuts (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lynn Artz: and anyone else: I've rearranged the "Personal life" section to get it into chronological order. I still need to remove some unnecessary citations and probably add this source: https://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/16/realestate/what-price-provenance.html Please feel free to jump in and take over. Cheers! YoPienso (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The TV show Air Disasters on Smithsonian Channel, Season 2, Episode 10, Cleared for Disaster, covers the airline crash and Koch is interviewed. Would a reference to that episode be good to include? 67.149.110.38 (talk) 19:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disinformation, climate-denial 96.36.41.185 (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This entry is astonishingly hushed about David Koch's involvement in disinformation and climate denial. There is a little mention of sources criticizing Koch, followed by some confusing muffled distraction. The entry is evocative of Koch's history of muddying waters in order to stall for time on scientific information that could threaten his profits. It appears to have been written by people in the echo-chamber think tanks Koch funds. 96.36.41.185 (talk) 11:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]