Talk:Adelia Silva

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Reviewer: The Most Comfortable Chair (talk · contribs) 12:13, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I will review this. Thank you. — The Most Comfortable Chair 12:13, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "and she was raised by Bianchi." — By "Bianchi", does it mean the "Bianchi family"? If so, "family" should be mentioned.

It means by Julia Bianchi. Per the source "La madre muere cuando Adelia era todavía una bebé de tan solo nueve meses, y es entonces criada como una hija por quien fuera la jefa de su madre, Julia Bianchi." p. 47

• "Instituto Normal de Artigas (Normal School) of Artigas" → "Instituto Normal de Artigas (Normal School of Artigas)" — Since it is a part of the translation, and it is a little redundant writing "of Artigas" after "de Artigas".

Moved ending parenthesis. By the way MOS:BADITALICS was recently pointed out to me, so I am removing the italics on the Spanish language names. My reading of it was that italics should be used unless the script was not Latin, but the FA reviewer stated that it did not say that, rather it said italics should not be used.[1]  Done SusunW (talk) 18:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "By the mid-1950s, despite many obstacles caused by sexism and racial discrimination, she had become principal" — "many obstacles caused by" is not as formal, and slightly non-neutral. Maybe it could be re-written plainly as → "By the mid-1950s, despite of widely prevalent sexism and racial discrimination, she had become principal", "By the mid-1950s, despite of widespread sexism and racial discrimination, she had become principal", or "By the mid-1950s, despite of experiencing sexism and racial discrimination, she had become principal"?

 Done SusunW (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "principal of a rural school in Artigas" — If the name of the school is known, it would be worthwhile to mention it.

Would that I knew, but I did not find a source that specified the name of the school. SusunW (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "Instituto Magisterial Superior (Higher Magisterial Institute) → "Instituto Magisterial Superior (Higher Magisterial Institute)" — Consistent with MoS used so far.

See above comment, apparently WP does not recognize italicizing foreign words? SusunW (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "the director asked her to transfer to another school." — Can the reason be elaborated a little, like it is in the following two instances? I suppose it is because of the aforementioned reasons, however if there is a quote by Silva or any particular reason, it would work well here.

I'm not really clear on the reasons for the first transfer request. Palermo says "In 1956 Silva settled with her daughter Luz in Montevideo to take advanced teaching classes at the Instituto Magisterial Superior, at the same time that she was working as a teacher at the "Gran Bretaña" (Great Britain) school in Montevideo. There, she was discriminated against by the institution's director, who suggested she move to another school because of her skin color." Scuro Somma p 60 says nothing about race, only that there were concerns about her pronunciation, i.e. "Los inconvenientes surgieron prontamente cuando, por motivos infundados y ajenos a su desempeño laboral, se le sugirió que solicitara traslado de la escuela donde trabajaba. Lo mismo le sucedió en una segunda institución, de donde fue trasladada. No obstante, instalada en otra escuela, nuevamente su labor fue cuestionada desde la dirección, así como por un grupo de padres que en una carta al Consejo Nacional de Enseñanza Primaria se quejaban de la «pronunciación incomprensible» de la educadora." Andrews says p 85, that an opening was not found for her at Gran Bretaña. I've reworked it and added a note about the conflicting sources. If that's okay, then  Done SusunW (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "resigned her scholarship and returned to Artigas." — Mention the year.

 Done SusunW (talk) 19:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "Consejo Nacional de Enseñanza Primaria (National Council of Primary Education)" → "Consejo Nacional de Enseñanza Primaria (National Council of Primary Education)" — per above.

As per above, Wikipedia MOS says not to. SusunW (talk) 19:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Shouldn't institute names be in italics per above in the last paragraph as well?

Ditto to above comment. SusunW (talk) 19:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "earning a degree in journalism in 1981." — Mention whether it was a bachelor's or master's.

I have no idea, could have been a trade degree for all I know. Source says "El 2 de octubre de 1981 se recibe de periodista y en 1993 obtiene el diploma de Relaciones Públicas realizado en el Club Deportivo Artigas". I've changed it to diploma, since the source is unclear.  Done SusunW (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "In 1985, she was awarded the Diploma de Honor del círculo de artes y letras (Diploma of Honor of the Circle of Arts and Letters) by the Ángel Falco literary group and in Artigas that year, Semana del Libro (Book Week), an event she helped found and popularize, was named "Maestra Adelia Silva" in her honor." — Reads a bit too stretched. Consider splitting it into two. Also, the names in italics?

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "publication of a book Silva co-wrote, Hacia el siglo XXI con la química en acción (Towards the 21st Century with Chemistry in Action) with Mary Suarez de Simon." → "publication of a book Silva co-wrote with Mary Suarez de Simon, Hacia el siglo XXI con la química en acción (Towards the 21st Century with Chemistry in Action)" — Also, mentioning Mary Suarez de Simon's profession or relation with Silva could be worth an inclusion since she does not have a Wikipedia entry to look for that.

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "Never tiring of improving her knowledge" — It is promotional in tone. Should be rephrased, perhaps something like → "Wanting to further her knowledge" or "Wanting to expand her knowledge" would work better?

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "she completed a degree in public relations in 1993." — Mention bachelor's or master's.

No idea, as per above changed to diploma.  Done SusunW (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "sexism" — Should be first linked when mentioned in "Teaching (1948–1979)", and unlinked from here.

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "Her struggle to excel and overcome the problems of sexism and racism brought about a shift in the perception of freedom and equality in Uruguay." — This sentence implies that it was primarily her efforts that brought about that shift. Consider changing "brought about" with "helped in bringing" or "helped bring" instead.

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "International Year of Afro-descendants Celebration" — Could this be linked with International Year for People of African Descent?

Good find! Thanks for the link. Added SusunW (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• "Recuperando la memoria: afrodescendientes en la frontera uruguayo brasileña a mediados del siglo XX" — Needs a language parameter.

 Done SusunW (talk) 20:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That should be all. It is a good and informative read, and it should pass. My apologies for the delay, I will have to travel for a couple of week but I will have a little more time now. Thank you. — The Most Comfortable Chair 18:04, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review The Most Comfortable Chair. Hopefully I have been able to address your concerns, but if not, just ping me. Very much appreciate your time and comments to help improve the article. No problem about delays, I've been tied up in tropical depression aftermath, i.e. water-water everywhere, roof repairs, painting, etc., so even had you gotten to it, I might not have been able to. Repairs round 3 finished today, so hopefully, we'll be good when the next storm hits. SusunW (talk) 20:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   It is a well-written article and is a good read. It meets the criteria. Thank you for all your hard work! — The Most Comfortable Chair 03:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]