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The result of the discussion was retarget to Rattus. Also did the same for Stenomys. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Epimys → Rat  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No extensive description of this, but Rattus at least mentions this in the infobox, unlike the current target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similar situation with Stenomys btw. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Rattus and retarget Stenomys as well. Plantdrew (talk) 16:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Sproggen → Child  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned on the English Wikipedia (nor Wiktionary). Seems to be a rather obscure slang term, but a web search returns unrelated results as well. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, not mentioned at target, and rather pointless to have as a search term. Geschichte (talk) 21:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Baratron → Pressure measurement  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be explained anywhere; only a passing mention at Hybrid Illinois Device for Research and Applications. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• DuroKon → Garden tool  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Durokon → Garden tool  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Zenport → Garden tool  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zenport Industries → Garden tool  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• AccuZen → Weighing scale  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• AgriKon → Fruit picking  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Appears to only have a passing mention at Bahget Iskander on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ZenTek → Pressure measurement  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, on-wiki search results for "ZenTek" seems to only return unrelated things. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• del advert plug-in. - Altenmann >talk 21:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 2032 Summer Olympics medal table → All-time Olympic Games medal table  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• 2028 Summer Olympics medal table → All-time Olympic Games medal table  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These are 4 and 8 years ahead of the games and nothing at the target even mentions them. Neither are helpful redirects or search terms and should be left as red links until an article can be created. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete since I can't buy one of these WP:CRYSTAL tables for my dining room. Steel1943 (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. They'll definitely be useful once the respective games start, and maybe a short while before, but not this far in advance. Thryduulf (talk) 18:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, it's detrimental to the focus and quality Wikipedia when things are made ridiculously early. Geschichte (talk) 21:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. While that may be true, the Olympics are held every four years. The 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris already ended, so it makes sense to keep those as redirects. Abhiramakella (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the present time, it doesn't. Readers could be searching these terms thinking we know something about what will happen in 4 or 8 years when we don't. These can (and will) be recreated within a year or so of these events occurring when we have actual information to provide readers. Steel1943 (talk) 21:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, 2024 Summer Olympics medal table was created on 7 May 2024, 2020 Summer Olympics medal table was created as a redirect in 2018 (possibly too early, but I've not looked to see if there was content at the target at the time) but gained content on 8 July 2021 (about 2 weeks before the games started), 2016 Summer Olympics medal table was created in 2010 (definitely too early, it was nominated for speedy deletion, which was correctly declined, but should have been brought here) it gained content when the first medal was won, 2012 Summer Olympics medal table was created in February 2012 and gained content the day before the games started. 2008 Summer Olympics medal table was created in December 2007, prodded (and then forgotten about?), redirected in May 2008 and became a content page 2 weeks before the opening ceremony. 2004 Summer Olympics medal table was split off from the main 2004 Olympics article on the second day of the games, these were the first Summer Olympics after Wikipedia was founded. Thryduulf (talk) 00:09, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• United States at the 2028 Summer Olympics → United States at the Summer Olympics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The only thing mentioned at the target regarding the 2028 games is that it's scheduled. This redirect isn't helpful as there's no information at the target, better left as a red link. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom and WP:TOOSOON. There are lots of mentions of the US at 2028 Summer Olympics, but all but one relate to the country as host not the team. The sole sporting reference is to the men's basketball team which is too narrow a target for the search term. Thryduulf (talk) 18:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, it's detrimental to the focus and quality Wikipedia when things are made several years too early. Geschichte (talk) 21:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was now a redirect to new article Skin sarcoma. Jay 💬 15:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Sarcoma of skin → Sarcoma  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned; Skin cancer might be a better target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I turned into disambig because there are several types thereof. A potential for a general article stub, Skin sarcoma: [1], [2] and I guess more - Altenmann >talk 22:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks, that should probably be mentioned in the skin cancer article as well then. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Close; the new general-topic article is much better than anything else. Nyttend (talk) 07:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of characters in The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Seasons → List of The Legend of Zelda characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no such list at the target article, and there is no such list at The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Seasons. However, this redirect is a {{R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 07:23, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:47, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete. no good (or any) sources in the history, seemingly nothing worth copying over cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Gradatio → Polysyllogism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. FTR, created by Neelix. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per nom and also because, from what I can tell, it is actually manifestly incorrect. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to Paul Angerer#Selected works as the title of one of his works and one of only three matches in article space. The other two are both very partial title matches, one for "The Uses of Sorites (Climax, Gradatio) in the Tannaitic Period." at Henry A. Fischel#Literary works the other for "Attitudes of Collaborative Expectancy: Antithesis, Gradatio, and A Rhetoric of Motives", a journal article used as a source at Antithesis. Weak because the term does seem to be used in rhetoric but I'm not grasping it enough to understand whether a redlink would be useful. Thryduulf (talk) 18:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Neelix trolling. No mention in target. Softlavender (talk) 18:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Special:Diff/211291944 was where they added it to the article (without any reference) fwiw. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep Zelda 3/III, 4/IV and 5/V, delete the rest. ✗plicit 14:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Zelda 3 → The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda III → The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 4 → The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda IV → The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 5 → The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda V → The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 6 → The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda VI → The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 7 → The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda VII → The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 8 → The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda VIII → The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 9 → The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Four Swords  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda IX → The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Four Swords  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 10 → The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda X → The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 11 → The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XI → The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 12 → The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XII → The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 13 → The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XIII → The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 14 → The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XIV → The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 15 → The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XV → The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 16 → The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XVI → The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 17 → The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XVII → The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 18 → The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XVIII → The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda 19 → The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Zelda XIX → The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]&nbsp
• Zelda 20 → The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

With the exceptions of Zelda 1 and Zelda 2, none of the The Legend of Zelda games have used numbers in their titles. I mean, I get it, the numbers are supposed to represent the order in which they were released, but such an association on Wikipedia is the equivalent of a WP:NOTFANDOM issue. There are several complications with this nomenclature:

• This is not the only "Zelda" topic on Wikipedia
• There are Zelda games that are not included in this order which, arguably, could be, such as:
  • Hyrule Warriors
  • Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
  • The games listed in the articles Link: The Faces of Evil and Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon and Zelda's Adventure
  • The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (though this one is probably an oversight as Zelda 21 doesn't exist yet)
  • The multiple remakes of these games
• The current target of Zelda 9 is partially a remake of the current target of Zelda 3
• Someone could be looking up these titles to determine the chronological order of these games' storylines and well ... that's a can of worms that no one can pull apart into a canon-like substance

At the minimum, the numbering gets ambiguous after Zelda 7: Zelda 7 and Zelda 8 both target The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages, but a reader could assume that both games represent "Zelda 7" and the "8th" title is whatever Zelda 9 currently points to.

With all this being said, my official vote is delete all with the alternative of weak delete all titles from Zelda 8 to Zelda 20. Steel1943 (talk) 14:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all. None of them are referred to as that commonly enough to keep. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 14:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - neither this series (nor reliable sources) use this numbering system for its title. Not likely or plausible as a search term. Sergecross73 msg me 14:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• To follow up, I support deleting all of them on the same grounds. Opposed to retargeting elsewhere on the same grounds. Sergecross73 msg me 15:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all For reasons used above. Ornov Ganguly TALK 15:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dissident93, Sergecross73, and Oganguly: Pinging current participants in the event they wish to alter their votes now that all of the discussions have been merged. Steel1943 (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retargeting to List_of_The_Legend_of_Zelda_media#Video_games could be an option in case people are looking these up, otherwise delete. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

will partially object to the justification for zelda 9, as despite the fire emblem franchise not using numbers either (hell, heroes could be a mainline installment for all we know) the "11nd" and "12rd" installments are remakes. will still vote to delete them all as that would require knowing what a mainline zelda game even is (and why the cd-i games don't count while spirit tracks does), and no one seems to use those wacky numbers... ever, really cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The CD-i games don't count because Nintendo had no involvement in them other than licencing out the property to Phillips as a consolation for mothballing the SNES CD add-on they were working on. The other partner they went with took their ball elsewhere when Nintendo saw the Mega CD bomb. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 18:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

that all sounds like an excuse to not accept harkinian as the new main character of the franchise cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 18:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I just added all respective Roman numeral variations to this nomination ... as I just found them. As a courtesy, @Dissident93, Sergecross73, Oganguly, 1234qwer1234qwer4, and Cogsan: Pinging all current participants. (For the record, Zelda XX does not exist.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just casting my support to purge those as well. In all my many---potentially regrettable---years being an online Zelda fan, I have never heard anyone calling the games by a numeral or number besides the first two NES games. Ornov Ganguly TALK 17:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete them too, if only because roman numerals make my brain go ouch cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all - And to make a note, the Hyrule Warriors games are non-canon musou spinoffs and Nintendo refuses to acknowledge the CD-i games in any capacity, which is why they aren't given redirects. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget all to List of The Legend of Zelda media#Video games. I spot checked a few of these and they all seem to get used unoficially but not all consistently referring to the same target, so targetting the list is the best way to help readers find the content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Readers who search these terms will be searching these terms with no idea what they are looking for, and no idea if they got what they wanted to find or where on the list article what they are trying to find is ... as per my nomination statement. And who is to say this is the "Zelda" they are looking for? Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Zelda 3/III to Zelda 5/V; Delete the rest - As noted at Legends of Localization, Zelda III to Zelda V did appear in gaming magazines of the time with Zelda III appearing on one variant of the box art for the SNES. Zelda V has the least references to OoT as Zelda 64 was more popular and Zelda VI doesn't seem to exist. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep/Delete per Super Goku V's research. It seems like the latter is used in "what ifs" (eg: what if Zelda games were numbered in timeline order), which would be a whole different set of numerals than the chronological releases. -- Tavix ^(talk) 23:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all I can see this being really controversial and starting nerdy edit wars. Really just totally unnecessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Zelda's 3/III to 5/V, delete the rest. Just because Zelda 16 or Zelda 20 might be implausible, doesn't mean we should throw everything out in between, and Super Goku V points out that some of the earlier numbers in this lineage have been used as real alternative names back when the first couple games in the numbering-scheme were more timely. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 13:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep "Zelda III" but only in Roman Numeral form, but Delete the rest, including "Zelda 3" in Arabic Numeral form. This is because A Link to the Past was initially planned for the NES as "Zelda III" but was moved onto the Super Nintendo, as A Link to the Past, relatively early in its development. The game itself references this, in the English translation, where "The Lake of Ill Omen" is a visual pun between the word "Ill" and the Roman Numeral III. Other than that, we can delete the rest of them. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 23:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep 3/4/5/III/IV/V, delete the rest, based on Super Goku V's findings. First few are plausible, rest look like ambiguous WP:OR and are unlikely to be of real use. BugGhost🦗👻 12:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 12:50, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• First try → Peter Oakley#Telling It All  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is the name of a Youtube introductory video, before a 5-10 minute documentary. In any case, "first try"s are an incredibly broad concept and should not be limited to this specific circumstance, as it could also be in reference to "try"ing someone the first time, via legal systems, or just trying something new. We have no substantive content about Oakley's "introductory video" for incoming searchers, so it'd be best to rid of this totally WP:SURPRISEing redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 12:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i'd say nag politely ask someone on wiktionary to see if an entry could be written, and soft redirect to that. if that's not an option, just delete and call it a day cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. It is highly unlikely that most people searching this term would be looking for this specific youtube video. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 17:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 12:49, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Young human → Child  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect is barely a week old, similarly to an infant (which is also a valid target). "Young" is an incredibly vague term, and should not be locked into a redirect. A young adult is also a young human, as is a teenager. People looking for the article on "child" would just use that incredibly-natural term. Wikipedia redirects should not be guesswork; let search engines do their job with this. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 12:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete because why not Baby, Toddler, or Teenager? Steel1943 (talk) 18:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for lack of a good target. Template:Human growth and development sidebar has a nice list of stages, but all of Infant, Toddler, Child, Preadolescent, Adolescent, Emerging adulthood and early adulthood and Young adult are unquestionably relevant (and Embryo, Fetus and Middle adult could be argued). A navbox template can sometimes make a good target for a redirect, but the sidebox form factor doesn't lend itself to this purpose. The closest thing to an article space page that lists all the options I can find is Child development stages (which covers infancy to seventeen years old) but that's going to be increasingly surprising and less useful for those thinking of "young" as meaning something other than "child". I don't think a dab page is viable given the ambiguity, so I'm left at delete. Thryduulf (talk) 18:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete possible useful but ambiguous. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Due to vagueness. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:32, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• This woman is my destiny → Shut Up and Dance (Walk the Moon song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of this lyric at the target article; people who specify this lyric instead of typing in "shut up and dance" (which is the vastly known name of this song), are likely looking for specific information related to the lyric, which does not appear anywhere at the target page. We don't point lyric redirects to the songs they came from, unless its a source that describes the lyric. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 12:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Jay 💬 12:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Postman (The Legend of Zelda series) → List of The Legend of Zelda characters#Postman  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. Character is present in multiple titles in the Zelda series, including Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Steel1943 (talk) 07:05, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was a section for it when the redirect was created. It's linked to at Postman (disambiguation) under MOS:DABREDIR. If the character isn't notable – I have no opinion on it – the dab entry should also be removed. Nick Number (talk) 13:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Would probably be a wrong DAB anyway. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Category:Dionysus in Greek mythology → Category:Mythology of Dionysus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unneeded soft redirect from an unlikely search term. What other mythology would Dionysus appear in? This redirect was created shortly before its target (which used to be Category:Dionysus in mythology). Mclay1 (talk) 11:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

keep. osiris isn't really a recurring character in shinto lore, but people will still specify that he's from egyptian mythology. same goes for dionysus in greek mythology, give or take the roman dub changing everyone's names (except his, apparently), so i think it's a pretty plausible case of "just in case" or alternative spelling cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You would specify Osiris is from Egyptian mythology when explaining what Osiris is, but you wouldn't need a subcat of Category:Osiris called Category:Osiris in Egyptian mythology because that's what the main category is already for. This redirect is very unlikely to aid navigation. (See Wikipedia:Category redirects that should be kept.) Mclay1 (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There are rare situations where a soft redirect is needed, this isn't one of them. Gonnym (talk) 11:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dionysus is technically a Latin/Latinised name of the god (Dionysos), but we don't have a category or separate article for the Roman Bacchus, so this is essentially a redirect from a more restrictive name, which I don't think is needed. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. It seems a bit of a stretch to redirect Dionysus in Greek mythology to Mythology of Dionysus, and (1) these are categories, where there's much less need for redirects, and (2) since neither one of them exists as a mainspace title, it seems even more unnecessary to have them in categoryspace. Nyttend (talk) 07:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Electronic entertainment → Video game  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The concept is not exclusive to its target. First exceptions that come to mind are Television and Film. Steel1943 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Outline of entertainment#Electronic entertainment may be a viable target (but the sub-list badly needs revised; e.g. arcade games are not listed but generalized toys are). — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 06:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Too vague, WP:REDLINK may apply also if there's a broad concept article to be made from this. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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