Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 July 29

Frank McParland (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

This page was marked for deletion two years ago, but appears to have never been deleted. I believe Frank McParland is not notable, because he is not a manager/coach and has never played or managed in a fully professional league. He is no longer in charge of the Liverpool academy, as time has moved on since Fenix_down pointed it out on the discussion page. Beatpoet (talk) 19:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Endorse - not sure how this didn't get deleted. No indication that notability has changed since the previous discussion. As he has moved my original redirect vote is no longer relevant. See no reason why this shouldn't just be a procedural discussion to clear up an historical error. Fenix down (talk) 21:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seeds of Death: Unveiling the Lies of GMOs (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

The page / article was incorrectly deleted under G11. It was not promotional. I did ask the deleting admin to undelete and he/she suggested DRV, saying that the sources were weak. User talk:RHaworth#Seeds of Death: Unveiling the Lies of GMOs. I'd also like to add that the article was still in it's infancy stages. It has also received 2 awards. I respectfully request that the article be restored as it's deletion under G11 was inappropriate. Many thanks. Mr Bill Truth (talk) 11:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it won three awards. petrarchan47คุก 02:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update Petrarchan47. I've found another so that makes at least 4 awards so far. Here's the Nevada Film Festival - 2013 Silver Screen Award Winners, Documentary Film Competition Mr Bill Truth (talk) 08:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• temporarily undeleted fir the purposes of this discussion. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• list at afd doesnt look that promotional to me but appears marginally notable. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Send to AFD, not that promotional. Stifle (talk) 09:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Overturn. Bad G11 call. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Overturn. Substantial procedural errors in the speedy deletion . Ottawahitech (talk) 07:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Here is the unmangled version User_talk:RHaworth/2015_Jul_25#Seeds_of_Death:_Unveiling_the_Lies_of_GMOs. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Overturn and list at AfD. I'm truly surprised anybody would think this fit the criteria for WP:G11. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:54, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having done a bit more research on this, I'm reasonably convinced it should be deleted as non-notable, but AfD is the place to decide that. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Overturn. It's somewhat spammy, but not enough that it couldn't be fixed with a bit of judicious editing, hence G11 is not applicable. Notability might still be an issue though. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
• Overturn and list at AfD. As above, G11 is a poor fit and weak sourcing is best dealt with at an afd discussion.Dialectric (talk) 06:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Shrubbery (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

This template was an actively used and often referred to process argument, used to bolster discussions against excessive rules-making. It has 65 use links. Deletion was not appropriate for an actively used policy template. If it was felt to be inappropriately located then a move and redirect could have been done, but deletion was not appropriate. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:31, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I restored the template so people can evaluate it (or see this substitution) and along with the close, was notified two minutes after this was brought to DRV and reiterated my views at User_talk:Ricky81682#MFD_Template:Shrubbery. If the editors actively thought that was a legitimate point of argument (and not merely a joke) someone could have said that. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologized to Ricky on his talk page for the timing. Regarding how to resolve this, I for one support moving the page to Wikipedia:Shrubbery and making the template a link. I would be happy to boldly do that unless someone tells me not to in the next few hours (or someone else can, or object...). Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 02:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • To make this easier, I moved it to Wikipedia:Shrubbery with the redirect. This can be closed unless someone strongly objects. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 02:23, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • I restored all the old redirects so I think all the oustanding redirects and links should be good now. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:32, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy close since Georgewilliamherbert has withdrawn his nomination after following the closing admin's suggestion in the close ("The same joke can be done by creating the page Wikipedia:SHRUBBERY as an essay or whatever rather than the template format.") Georgewilliamherbert has moved the page to Wikipedia:Shrubbery. Cunard (talk) 04:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• TfD !voted to delete the template, not move it to a different namespace. Alakzi (talk) 19:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• I read a consensus to remove it from Template space, but no consensus to delete instead of moving to Project space. Closer displays a lax attitude to Wikipedia:Copyrights in advocating delete and recreate elsewhere. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:46, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

King Mez (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Hello,

The page for the following subject, "King Mez" was prematurely deleted by a member while the page was being edited. After showing proof of qualification to the member who deleted the page, he said the subject "King Mez" can qualify for the 11th clause of Artist notability guideline. I sent the following information:

'The following subject "King Mez" has made national tv appearances and has had his music videos in rotation by a music television networks and radio internationally. Including MTV2, MTV Jams, BET, as well SIRIUS Music radio and Apple Music/Beats One Radio.

Please see the following images for visual proof: 1. http://postimg.org/image/jrysl92uv/ SIRIUS XM 2. http://postimg.org/image/sj0odrvgd/ MTV Jams 3. http://postimg.org/image/6ilm295u3/ MTV2 4. http://postimg.org/image/8xgilrr3d/ Apple Music App 5. http://postimg.org/image/dhm45kzq9/ Beats One Radio

"King Mez" was also featured on a project by Lecrae titled Church Clothes 2 that debuted on the No. 21 spot on the Billboard 200, No. 1 on the Billboard Christian Albums and Gospel Albums charts on a track called "Lost My Way" (featuring King Mez & Daniel Day).

Please allow us to create this page, as to the fact he has numerous mentions on Wikipedia and we would like to source the mentions back to his page. Thank you in advance.'

In addition to the aforementioned information, the subject "King Mez" has been mentioned and featured on:

TheNewYorkTimes.com Pitchfork.com Jay-Z's LifeandTimes.com USAToday.com Complex.com Spin.com HuffingtonPost.com XXL.com NBCNews.com Sirius XM Sway in the Morning Stussy.com BET Backroom + 106th & Park The Source Magazine (Print) Indy Week Magazine Cover Spin Magazine (Print) XXL Magazine (Print)

Please refer to this document for visual proof: https://www.scribd.com/doc/235488716/King-Mez-Press-Kit

I was in the middle of adding all of this information but the page was deleted before I even had the chance to. Please advise as to how I can the "King Mez' page reinstated. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freshheirs00 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 July 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

• (I moved this from Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 July 23; the original request was malformed, and that fooled AnomieBOT into hiding the log page completely.) —Cryptic 00:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Endorse - You may wanna read WP:COI, also the article was deleted because there was literally no evidence of notability and then we had the promo crap, Images/links listed here aren't proof of anything, Admin was correct in deleting that crap end of. –Davey2010^Talk 00:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• weak involved endorse I am the one who nominated this article for speedy. The screenshots probably do show passing point 11 of NMusic, but the problem is WP:V there are no WP:RS discussing this guy, so nothing can be written about him in a verifiable manner.Gaijin42 (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Endorse but restore. The close was correct because the nominator noted that this was an "unsourced blp" and the AfD participants were unanimous in supporting deletion. Allow recreation per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Fleischer, Adam (2012-06-30). "King Mez, My Everlasting Zeal". XXL. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.
  2. Hernandez, Victoria (2014-10-02). "King Mez Recalls Meeting J. Cole On Myspace At 17; Shuns Conscious Rap Label". HipHopDX. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.

     The article provides 269 words of coverage about the subject before the interview begins, so I would qualify this as "significant coverage by an independent source".

     The article notes that he has "honest lyrics and gritty voice" and that he "reps Raleigh and is influenced by New York greats Nas and Notorious B.I.G." It says he was 24 years old in October 2014, that his birth name is Morris Ricks, and that he released the album Long Live the King in April 2014.

  3. Harvey, Kyle (2013-03-22). "Rapper King Mez strengthens North Carolina's hip-hop scene". The Grio. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.

     The article notes that he was born Morris Rick, that he is better known by his rap name "King Mez", that he received "great reviews" for his summer mixtape My Everlasting Zeal, and that in the spring of 2013 he opened for Pusha-T and Fabolous' "The Life Is So Exciting" tour. It notes that while he attended North Carolina A&T State University, his mother died and he had to raise his younger brother by himself. It notes that he is from Raleigh, North Carolina, that he was 22 years old in March 2013, and that he is inspired by RocNation rapper and fellow South Carolinian J.Cole.

  4. Scott, Damien (2014-04-10). "Premiere: Listen to King Mez's New Album "Long Live the King"". Complex. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.

     The article notes that King Mez's first mixtape was The Paraplegics in 2010 and that he has been the opener for J. Cole, Wale, Big K.R.I.T., and Kendrick Lamar. It notes that King Mez released his fourth mixtape, Long Live the King, around April 2014. He collaborated with Commissioner Gordon and Illmind on the album, which the reviewer considered "Mez's strongest project to date". Reviewer Damien Scott praises the album:

     Full of Lush, atmospheric production and tight, winding lyrics (as evidenced on the lead single, "Morris."), the album shows a more assured artist coming into his own.

  5. Weinstein, Max (2014-04-11). "New Music: King Mez 'Long Live The King' Album". Vibe. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.

     The article notes that King Mez has a "strong following" and that in his fourth album Long Live The King's lead single "Morris", "King Mez showcases a phenomenal ear for beats and concise, personal rhymes".

  6. Weinstein, Max (2013-11-27). "New Music: King Mez 'Cold Blood (Remix)'". Vibe. Retrieved 2015-07-29. {{cite news}}: |archive-date= requires |archive-url= (help)

     This brief review notes:

     King Mez secured the instrumental for Canei Finch’s “Cold Blood” and laid down some chilling bars over the haunting beat. The NC rapper has a style that’s totally his own, and anyone that didn’t fall in love with his music on “My Everlasting Zeal” will think twice when they hear this.

  7. Kangas, Chaz (2014-10-21). "A Complete Guide to Hip-Hop at CMJ 2014". The Village Voice. Archived from the original on 2015-07-29. Retrieved 2015-07-29.

     The article notes:

     King Mez Drom Friday, October 24 North Carolina rapper King Mez is headlining a CMJ showcase at Drom on Friday night. With a sleek righteousness without the heavy-handed morality plays of "conscious rap," King Mez brings a welcome thought-provoking perspective to the booth. What we love about Mez is how his rapid-fire staccato flow manages to still be so smooth and keep us on his every word.

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow King Mez to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 04:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• AfD closing admin here. I was simply enacting consensus of the AfD and am personally indifferent this topic. However, I note that the AfD was 5 months ago, and it seems that a very different version of the article is being proposed here, so I think the AfD should not be taken as a binding precedent. Deryck C. 08:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• I think the deletion(s) being appealed is/are two G4 speedy deletions for recreating a deleted page. Stifle (talk) 08:47, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most recent deleting admin here. Given Cunard's research, I'm fine with someone reposting the article. It will have to avoid language like this, which was in the last deleted version: "With 3 solid projects under his belt - King's Khrysis (2011), My Everlasting Zeal (2012), Long Live The King (2014) - Mez has made strides in the music industry from making national television appearances, to working with artists like J.Cole and more recently, the legendary Dr.Dre." NawlinWiki (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, NawlinWiki, for reviewing the sources and explaining what was in the last deleted version. Would an admin move all the deleted versions of King Mez to Draft:King Mez to facilitate a rewrite? Cunard (talk) 06:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cunard: I have restored all revisions of the deleted King Mez articles to Draft:King Mez. Deryck C. 23:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you, Deryck Chan (talk · contribs). Cunard (talk) 04:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]