Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 8

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Iowa Wesleyan Tigers football seasons to Category:Iowa Wesleyan Tigers football

Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let'srun (talk) 04:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support per nom Mason (talk) 05:35, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep; category now contains two pages; part of established categorization scheme; will grow. Jweiss11 (talk)

It appears to only contain one page. The 1946 is a redirect. glman (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One redirect and one article. The nominator called the redirect a "page" above. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge for now until there are more than a few articles that can populate the category. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Users with many Red Links in their Userpage (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Useless. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. There is no maintenance required here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete purpose is not at all clear. _signed, Willondon (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The purpose is kinda like Wikipedia Red Link Lists category but without repeats ItsMeGabeProductions (talk) 01:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Violates WP:USERCAT. VegaDark (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who use DuckDuckGo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:UCFD/I#Wikipedians by search engine * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery:, I created this category. Then you posted a notice on my talk page directing me here. I see no rationale provided. There is a cryptic code above, "WP:UCFD", with a link that leads to a list of other links, one of which I followed, but that took me to a page with further drop-down sections for every day for a whole month, that is, a ton of reading. Please do me and other interested parties a favour by providing a clear rationale here, which can be discussed, or provide at the very least a direct, specific link to something so we don't have to play two time-wasting games: Hide and seek, and Let's all guess what Pppery is talking about. I don't have time to search and play guessing games. Please state your rationale explicitly so there can be a discussion. I am keen to know what it is. Thank you. Spideog (talk) 01:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The regulars here would quite clearly know what I mean, so it's not Let's all guess. Anyway, the reason is that "Wikipedians by search engine" categories have been repeatedly deleted in the past, and the link in the nomination statement points to a list of times that has happened. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I have followed the link above which took me to a list of links. As before, I clicked the first one which led me to a list of 28 drop-down sections (2 April to 29 April). I browsed the first three carefully and found nothing germane. All I can do is repeat my previous request: provide a direct link to a past discussion, or better yet, state a rationale here. So little effort from you, so convenient for others! (Hint: Although a Wikipedia editor for nearly 20 years, I am not "a regular here" – in Category discussions.) Thank you. Spideog (talk) 01:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a rationale. The rationale is that the community has deleted categories that are not meaningfully differentiable from this one in the past. Why did the community delete things like this in the past? Because, to quote the nomination statement from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 January 30#Category:Wikipedians who use Ecosia (the most recent prior discussion):

Violates WP:USERCAT as a category that does not foster encyclopedic collaboration. Extensive precedent to delete other "search engine" categories, see here. It does not help benefit the encyclopedia to know which search engine a particular Wikipedian prefers to use.

Note the link to the exact same list I linked above.

The links on that list point to specific relevant sections of a large page, and while it appears on the mobile website that it takes a non-trivial amount of time to jump to that section, that does not render them entirely unfindable. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. I can confirm that links to a section on a page do not always work well, that is very annoying. Pppery is right that at least you are linked to the right page. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per precedent. I see 6 similar categories that were all deleted. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Also, if people have a preference for search engines, there are userboxes they can display on their userpage. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 20:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per longstanding, sound precedent against creating categories for search engines someone happens to be using. Such a category scheme cannot possibly be useful for the project. VegaDark (talk) 21:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:People from Ingleton to Category:People from Ingleton, North Yorkshire

Nominator's rationale: To disambiguate/clarify purpose of category. Keith D (talk) 22:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Agree - Clearer and there may be another Ingleton. Bduke (talk) 03:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The only other Ingeleton with its own article is the village Ingleton, County Durham. Dimadick (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename per article title Ingleton, North Yorkshire. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Hyde Park Athletic Association football seasons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let'srun (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Afghan religion academics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category about someone who wasn't an academic in Religious studies. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The only person in the category was an expert on jurisprudence. Dimadick (talk) 07:01, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:50, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Ford Foundation fellowships (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF User:Namiba 20:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Being a Ford Foundation Fellow isn't defining. However, in theory, this category could be kept/purged, IF the category only contained content about the fellowship (but I don't think there's enough to support that purged category). Mason (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• No, apart from the main article the category only contains biographies. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Merge per nom. That's why I said "IF". Mason (talk) 02:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Smasongarrison: Merge to where? This nomination is suggesting deletion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Apologies, I meant delete. Mason (talk) 23:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:50, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Impostors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:ARBITRARYCAT. User:Namiba 21:53, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Nothing arbitrary about it. Dimadick (talk) 01:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the content seems pretty arbitrary. If keep, it should be purged. Mason (talk) 05:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Leaning to oppose, the category looks fine to me at first sight, so if WP:ARBITRARYCAT would apply, I would need more explanation why. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose As it has a complementary list, List of impostors. This is "impostor" in the fraud sense, not simply someone who is an actor. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep, there's no reason do delete a well-populated category on one person's arbitrary claims that it's an "arbitrary" category. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keet - agree with above. Bduke (talk) 03:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note Removed the Category:Female wartime cross-dressers subcategory; I don't think "imposter" is the right term there. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep With the one exception above, I think this is fine. (Maybe there was earlier cleanup since the nomination though.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus for basically the same reasons as the discussion below - there's slightly support for a merge here, but not enough to reach a consensus. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Carleton Knights football seasons to Category:Carleton Knights football

Nominator's rationale: Only two articles, one of which is a redirect. Upmerge to Carleton Knights football. Let'srun (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. There is an accepted categorization scheme that all collegiate football programs with season articles should have categories for their articles, especially considering the potential for many more to fill it - I'm 100% certain there's more than one notable Carleton Knights season. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per nom. "Potential for growth" is NO LONGER a reason to keep per COMMUNITY CONSENSUS. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then what is the policy? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per BeanieFan11. It's silly to delete a populated category that's part of an established categorization scheme that would just have to be recreated in the near future. Let'srun, these nominations are, frankly, a waste of time. Jweiss11 (talk) 18:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as part of a well-established tree (Category:College football seasons by team)--User:Namiba 17:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting so that this can be closed along with the similar discussions.
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• Keep per Jweiss11. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge, category can be recreated when there are more members.

JoelleJay (talk) 04:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom Mason (talk) 02:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus We have two separate groups of editors, of roughly equal size, making arguments amounting to "it's small" versus "it has potential to grow" and "it's part of an orderly/well-established scheme" (these are paraphrases not direct quotes). Neither of these positions is clearly forcelosed by the relevant guidelines on categorization, or otherwise clearly gained the upper hand in the discussion, and hence I can see no actionable consensus. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Maritime Privateers football coaches (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category Let'srun (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep category now contains two articles; will grow. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:04, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Dual merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States and Category:Maritime Privateers coaches. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Dual merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note that merging to Category:College football coaches in the United States is absolutely not an appropriate solution. That is a container cat; it simply makes zero sense to have 10,000+ coach articles in subcats, and then two random ones in the container cat. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:43, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Has multiple articles now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and strong oppose merger, as this category has multiple articles and will continue to grow; part of a decade-plus old well-maintained categorization scheme. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Since when is that a guideline? Please direct me to it so I can be better informed. Let'srun (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Let'srun: Similar language was previously used in WP:SMALLCAT, but that guideline was deprecated as no longer having community consensus and because it overlapped with WP:NARROWCAT. - - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as part of a large and well-established tree. Also, I should note that WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated so there is nothing advising us against having single article categories.--User:Namiba 17:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Namiba: WP:NARROWCAT is still in force though. (Whether you think it applies here is of course up to you.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RevelationDirect: I read there that Such categories should only be created ... when similar intersections can be made for related categories – I could be reading this wrong, but doesn't that mean its acceptable here since it is the standard way of organizing these categories for nearly two decades and would cause disorder among a long-time very-well maintained category to do the suggested merger? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: @Namiba, the deprecation of SMALLCAT does not mean that small categories are peritted, merely that criteria such as "potential for growth" are ambiguous and unhelpful. You can read the closure of the discussion on SMALLCAT at Wikipedia talk:Overcategorization/Small with no potential for growth#Should SmallCat continue to be a guideline.
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• Merge to just the coaches cat, per above.

JoelleJay (talk) 04:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I would think that it'd be much, much more useful for navigation for readers that this be its own category; when everything else is orderly like this, someone would think to look for the Maritime entry – but who would think to look in the container category of college football coaches, of which there are tens of thousands of notables? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per BeanieFan11 and Namiba; part of a well-established categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Maritime Privateers wiith no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (Noting for the record that Jweiss11 !voted twice.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Maritime Privateers football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory with one page. Let'srun (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep subcategory now contains two articles; will grow. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge to Category:Maritime Privateers for now if sub-category is not deleted. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Category:Maritime Privateers for now if sub-category is not deleted. Redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Now three articles in the category. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will note that "potential for growth" is not a valid reason for keeping a category. If it can grow, more members should be added to the category. Otherwise it can be recreated whenever it has enough members. There are still only two category members.
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• Merge for now, no reason to have this tiny cat indefinitely.

JoelleJay (talk) 04:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per BeanieFan11; part of a well-established categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2011 in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2011 in Saint Lucian sport
• Propose merging Category:2016 in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2016 in Saint Lucian sport
• Propose merging Category:2017 in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2017 in Saint Lucian sport
• Propose merging Category:2018 in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Saint Lucian sport
• Propose merging Category:2019 in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Saint Lucian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Saint Lucian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:36, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/delete all per nom. Let'srun (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Image Comics characters who are shapeshifters to Category:Image Comics shapeshifters

• Propose renaming Category:DC Comics characters who are shapeshifters to Category:DC Comics shapeshifters

• Propose renaming Category:Marvel Comics characters who are shapeshifters to Category:Marvel Comics shapeshifters

• Propose renaming Category:Shapeshifter characters in comics to Category:Shapeshifters in comics

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessarily wordy titles. No reason to include "character" in the titles. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support renaming, these new names are just better. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename per nom and others. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:32, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Astroworld Festival crowd crush (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Does not aid naviagation. User:Namiba 16:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in the category (except for the main article obviously). Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and above. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:1973–74 in Haitian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1974 in Haiti
• Propose merging Category:2019 in Haitian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Haitian sport
• Propose merging Category:2020 in Haitian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in Haitian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Haitian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Guadeloupean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Guadeloupean sport and Category:2019 in Guadeloupean sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in Guadeloupean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Guadeloupean sport and Category:2020 in Guadeloupean sport
• Propose merging Category:2020–21 in Guadeloupean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in Guadeloupean sport and Category:2021 in Guadeloupean sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Guadeloupean football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2014 in Grenada football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2014 in Grenadian sport
• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Grenadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Grenadian sport and Category:2019 in Grenadian sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in Grenadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Grenadian sport and Category:2020 in Grenadian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Grenadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Museums established in 1471 to Category:Museums established in the 15th century and Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1471
• Propose deleting Category:Museums established in the 1470s
• Propose deleting Category:Cultural infrastructure completed in 1471
• Propose deleting Category:Cultural infrastructure completed in the 1470s
• Propose deleting Category:Infrastructure completed in 1471

Nominator's rationale: Isolated category after recent merges per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_27#Category:Art_museums_and_galleries_established_in_1715. – Fayenatic London 09:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge/delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Party songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category seems to have been arbitrarily made and it's not clear where it fits into the categorisation tree/family. It's also incredibly ambiguous, is it songs that you could play at a party (that could be any song), is it songs about parties? Songs with party themes? It seems to be created as a playlist rather than a genuine attempt at legitimate categorical interest. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 09:36, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. First contribution of a new editor. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Motorsport competitions in Louisiana to Category:Motorsport in Louisiana

Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. redundant layer Mason (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Dominica football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Dominica sport and Category:2019 in Dominica sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Dominica football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:57, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2010–11 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2010 in Bermudian sport and Category:2011 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2011–12 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2011 in Bermudian sport and Category:2012 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2012–13 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2012 in Bermudian sport and Category:2013 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2013–14 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2013 in Bermudian sport and Category:2014 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2014–15 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2014 in Bermudian sport and Category:2015 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2015–16 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2015 in Bermudian sport and Category:2016 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2016–17 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2016 in Bermudian sport and Category:2017 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2017–18 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2017 in Bermudian sport and Category:2018 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Bermudian sport and Category:2019 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Bermudian sport and Category:2020 in Bermudian sport
• Propose merging Category:2020–21 in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in Bermudian sport and Category:2021 in Bermudian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Bermudian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Barbadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Barbadian sport and Category:2019 in Barbadian sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in Barbadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in Barbadian sport
• Propose merging Category:2020–21 in Barbadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2020 in Barbadian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Barbadian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Anguillan football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. There is only one league sub-category in this category that is already in the trees of parent categories, so merging is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:29, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Bahamian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Bahamian sport and Category:2019 in Bahamian sport
• Propose merging Category:2019–20 in Bahamian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 in Bahamian sport and Category:2020 in Bahamian sport
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Bahamian football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Narrow intersection. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in Category:2018–19 in Caribbean football leagues and Category:2019–20 in Caribbean football leagues respectively, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:09, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:2018–19 in Bonaire football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2018 in Bonaire and Category:2019 in Bonaire
• Propose deleting Category:Seasons in Bonaire football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:2018 in Bonaire sport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:2019 in Bonaire sport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Bonaire sport by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:2010s in Bonaire sport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Bonaire sport by decade (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. Narrow intersection. Merge/delete. The lone article is already in Category:2018–19 in Caribbean football leagues so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to the Xth-century Indian people categories; delete Category:Indian film directors by century. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:02, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:21st-century Indian film directors to Category:Indian film directors and Category:21st-century Indian people
• Propose merging Category:20th-century Indian film directors to Category:Indian film directors and Category:20th-century Indian people
• Propose merging Category:19th-century Indian film directors to Category:Indian film directors and Category:19th-century Indian people
• Propose deleting Category:Indian film directors by century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Film directors are not diffused by century. per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_March_2#Film_directors_by_century Mason (talk) 01:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Single merge to century categories, the articles are also in other parts of the Indian fimdirectors tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Draughtsmen to Category:Drafters

Nominator's rationale: C2D: The page is called "Drafter". Per the article page "A drafter (also draughtsman / draughtswoman in British and Commonwealth English, draftsman / draftswoman or drafting technician in American and Canadian English) " The subcategories can be speedied after the nomination closes. Mason (talk) 01:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A drafter is a person who prepares a draft of a document, for example the drafters of the American Constitution. Someone who creates technical drawings is a draughtsman or a draughtswoman. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 01:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Two questions: What is a mixed-gender group of draughtsman and draughtswoman called? And, then why is the main page called drafter? Mason (talk) 01:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_January_23#Category:Draughtsmen ended as no consensus. It is recommendable to ping the contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If no-one else is going to, I might as well do it. @Grutness, Peterkingiron, Pigsonthewing, Richard Nevell, and Twiceuponatime: Pinging contributors to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 23 § Category:Draughtsmen. And also @Chiswick Chap, Fram, and Sionk: Pinging contributors to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 December 20 § Category:Drawers (artists). Ham II (talk) 21:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: Many, perhaps most, of the articles in this category and its subcats are artists in the medium of drawing (the second meaning given in Draughtsman, which is a disambiguation page), rather than people who make technical drawings, which is the scope of Drafter. "Drafter" isn't used for the first category of people. "Draftspersons", "draftspeople", "draughtspersons" and "draughtspeople" (apparently in roughly that order of popularity) could be possible alternative names for the category. Ham II (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per the above. These things are not synonyms, as can readily be ascertained. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename per nom and 2020 discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, and move the article. A drfter has two different meanings, one identical to a draughtsperson. It can also mean someone who drafts up documents. As such, it is an ambiguous title for the category - and for the article, for that matter. Worth noting that the term "draftsman+US" gets over 10 million ghits - mearly twice as many as "drafter+US", so it's questionable which is the main term used in the US. Grutness...wha? 03:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, on the basis "Drafter" is an American term and isn't used in British English. I've no opinion whether the top category should be American or British English, but certainly there shouldn't be a wholesale rename. Sionk (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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