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June 10, 2018Peer reviewNot reviewed
May 14, 2019Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

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Requested move 5 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 19:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


– The page Exo is currently a disambiguation page, and there are 3 other pages there that are titled Exo on that page. "Exo (band)" seems to me to clearly be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as in the past 30 days it has had an average of close to 5,000 page views, and the next closest of those other 3 Exo pages had an average around 80 page views a day (and then around 30 and then an average of 3, in descending order for the other two pages). While page views are not the only criteria, I think this makes it fairly clear that this is the primary page that people are looking for when searching Exo, and thus the disambiguation page should be moved to have a parenthetical disambiguation and "Exo (band)" should become "Exo". Nangears (talk) 18:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The Exo page is indeed a disambiguation page with content, and so it would also have to be renamed to make way for the band's page move to that title. This request has been modified to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 20:57, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as not primary topic. What most people are searching for relates to the prefix exo- and derivative titles, and so the DAB serves a better function. Looking at page views from much farther back, the band received a big bump in 2018, but a likewise drastic fall to. This RM is just more boy band fancruft - PRIMARYTOPIC is not about over-inflating the significance of pop culture topics with only fleeting popularity. -- Netoholic @ 19:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, per WP:NOTADICTIONARY, the primary purpose of WP is not for looking up words or parts of speech, such as the prefix "exo-", which is why the page is a disambiguation page and not an article page on its own. The page also only lists 5 notable uses of the prefix for scientific usage, so it is not as if this page's primary purpose is to direct readers to all the possible words that begin with "exo", which I would then agree is a much more significant use and would be a better argument as to why "Exo (band)" is not the primary topic. Further, what is your argument that "most people" are searching for the prefix based on, because the page Exo has an average of around 80 views over the past 30 days. Even with the popularity of this page having fallen off considerably from its large spike in 2018, since 2015 it consistently has pageviews in the 4000+ range. So, even to look at the page in its dropped popularity, so for example, just to compare the last 30 days, Exo (band) has more average daily page views than the Exo page and the five listed scientific usage terms on the page combined (the highest being Exoplanet at around a 900 view average). Again, I know page views aren't the only determining factor, but then what are you basing your argument of "most people" on? Nangears (talk) 20:05, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I highly doubt the average person would search "exo" with the intention of being directed anywhere but this article, epecially considering it's the fourth most visited band article on Wikipedia. Mal Arken (talk) 18:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 10 November 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure)  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 20:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Exo (group) → EXO – Most links read "Exo (group)" as "EXO", so this is better known in all caps. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 02:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Ammarpad (talk) 05:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(1) it's unlikely that anyone wanting Exo (group) is ignoring Exo (group) in search results and drop down top right box and instead going to Exo by mistake. On which software would this happen?
(2) closer, please note that Station1 has repeatedly and consistently argued on dozens if not hundreds of RMs against the guideline, namely against: "A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term." In ictu oculi (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(1) Software without javascript enabled, I believe, although someone can correct me if that's wrong. It's irrelevant though, since for whatever reason, 84 readers per day are winding up on the dab page. (2) I'm not aware of any other article titled Exo whose topic is of greater long term significance. Station1 (talk) 02:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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EXO-K and EXO-M

Both are their own individual subunits and I think they are both worthy of their own Wikipedia articles, gaining notability from MAMA and Overdose. - K-popguardian (talk) 02:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They haven't been separate groups since Overdose was released. So how much content would be written that is distinct from this article and each other? You basically have would be in 2006–2012 and 2013–2014 headers? Esp since they seem to have always jointly promoted their work, I can't think of any reason why they would have individual articles. Evaders99 (talk) 02:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They haven't had separate articles all this time, is it really necessary now? It's not like they even released different material. Alexanderlee (talk) 03:06, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So just a combined EXO-K and EXO-M article would work, but otherwise, they shouldn't be just lumped in with normal EXO albums when they're clearly not the same. - K-popguardian (talk) 17:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2021

Hi, please change "Lay auditioned in Changsha, China, and subsequently moved to South Korea" to "Lay auditioned in Changsha, Hunan, China, and subsequently moved to South Korea". Thank you. 24.61.83.139 (talk) 13:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2021

MOS:TMRULES is clear about this. "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one"

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Change Exo(group) to EXO(group) EXO4seasons (talk) 06:14, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, Wikipedia uses normal English rules and not stylizations MOS:TMRULES Evaders99 (talk) 06:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I undestand normal English rules for naming, but EXO have their name all capitalised in hangul & English, & thats why it needs to be edited per say — Preceding unsigned comment added by EXO4seasons (talk • contribs)
Have another look at the manual of style guideline that was linked: MOS:TMRULES. We don't use the stylizations, though we do indicate the fact that they exist, done here through "stylized in all caps". For some other examples, have a look at Twenty One Pilots, Korn, or Fun (band) – it's just how things are done on Wikipedia. Volteer1 (talk) 06:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I read the manual thoroughly, do it under this section in the manual, m adding the subtext here:: Using all-caps is preferred if the letters are pronounced individually, even if they don't (or no longer) stand for anything. For instance, use SAT for the testing system (formerly the Scholastic Assessment Test) and KFC for the fast-food restaurant (formerly Kentucky Fried Chicken). Using all-lowercase letters may likewise be acceptable if it is done universally by sources, such as with the webcomic xkcd.
& about the bandnames u suggested, they all include special alphabets & symbols, dont understand the relevance with simple Exo to EXO change without any special alphabets — Preceding unsigned comment added by EXO4seasons (talk • contribs) 17:04 (UTC)
@EXO4seasons: All the names you mentioned off the MoS were initialisms. Exo is not an initialism. And if you actually fucking read the lines before that, you would know that it also mentioned Asus and how the article's title should not be in all caps, also why don't you take a look at Hrvy, Changmo, and hell, even [Max] Changmin before you reply here you brainlet, OK? —beetricks ~ talk · email 18:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetricks: now now, be nice and be polite. – robertsky (talk) 20:28, 22 February 2021 (UTC) [reply]
@EXO4seasons: I would like to take back the insults and say sorry to you. I should have been better typing my response without calling you a "brainlet" there. —beetricks ~ talk · email 20:34, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: As laid out in replies by Evaders and Beetricks. – robertsky (talk) 20:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
to all the insults & sorries here, i wont reply

& to others who can try to have reasonable arguments here to read this again, the subtext i added : Using all-caps is preferred if the letters are pronounced individually, even if they don't (or no longer) stand for anything. EXO is read as E X O & EXO in whole both ways, thtas why I am asking to change Exo(group) to EXO(group) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EXO4seasons (talk • contribs)

 Not done: Consider this request closed. the MOS is clear on this. – robertsky (talk) 09:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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