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[[User:Ice Cold|Ice Cold]] 15:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[[User:Ice Cold|Ice Cold]] 15:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh my God.Why do you hate Perceval soooooo much? Are you Irish or what?
[[User:Ice Cold|Ice Cold]] 17:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:35, 27 July 2006

Niccolo Da Conti

Hi jfruh mate, just backed up your comment about the dates for this Italian explorer it was my first question on reading it - sure needs an expert to come in and expand it a bit - cheers Robdav69

Byzantine emperors

Hi Jfruh, I have been thinking about how to better organize the emperor's page for awhile, especially after the Roman Emperor page was created with many details of succession, etc. You can go ahead and fix it if you want; I'll help when I can, but at the moment I don't have regular internet access and I'm not sure when I'll get it back (it's impractical to spent large amounts of time editing Wikipedia in the library :)). Adam Bishop 16:37, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You're right. I reverted. Mackerm 23:57, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Excellent new image. I was moved to build a new subsection round it. I see you're more of an Antiquity head than an image head, but I'm incompetent to get images into Wikipedia (see my begging plea at Wikipedia:Requested pictures under Art 2.1). Nevertheless, the more images integrated into Wiki text the better. Hope you get hooked! Wetman 18:35, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Runic Inscription Picture From Istanbul

Hi Jfruh. I noticed your picture of the runic inscription in Istanbul. I'm an American/Canadian citizen of Scandinavian/Varangian descent living in Holland and will be travelling to Istanbul in the not too distant future. I'd love to see that column. Do you perchance remember its location? If so, I'd really appreciate it if you could email it to me at tymothi_j_2 @ yahoo.com, Many thanks in advance!

Ghost stations

Hey, that's a neat article on Ghost stations you wrote there. One little question - are these ever referred to in the singular, as in a Ghost station? Singular names are preferred for article titles, so that's why I'm wondering. - RedWordSmith 04:14, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

No problem; I went ahead and moved the article to Ghost station. You can rename a page using the tab entitled "move" at the top. Full instructions are available at m:Help:Renaming (moving) a page. - RedWordSmith 04:25, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
thanks for the Ghost stations article.. I´ve started to enlarge the history section of the Berlin S-Bahn but haven´t completed the task yet IsarSteve 16:23, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Stubs

There is a comprehensive list of stubs to be found at Wikipedia:Stub_Categories; by the way, in this last case Rail Stubs would have been appropriate, IMHO, but F Market wasn't a stub anymore Lectonar 10:08, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Homoians and Arians

Hi Jfruh: Thanks for responding to my questions on Talk:Theodosius_I#Arians_vs._Homoians. I've finnally replied there — with more questions I'm afraid ;-) Paul August 23:14, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Jfruh, I had just finished reading your update to Theodosius_I, when I got your message ;-) On first pass you seem to have delt with the issues rather well I think. But I want to think about them some more, and also read the Arianism article, before I comment any more. Paul August 06:44, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

I can understand the re-insertion of spaces after punctuation marks (which I avoid myself) in the "copyedit" of Arianism.However,I specifically regret that you recombined the line I severed into two,because it exceeds the line-length limit of Lynx (browser) (at least as I have always had it configured).I was only able to correct the spelling error in the link to catechumen by dividing that line.--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 16:26, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi - I know that the two terms can be confusing to someone who doesn't know them. That said, it is still absurd to have a notice - we don't have disambiguation for misspellings, and we shouldn't - there are all kinds of things which might be confusing, and there are all kinds of things somebody might look up mistakenly. That doesn't mean we should have notices, which incorrectly imply that there is some connection between the two things. john k 22:08, 2 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I saw you mention that you were a frequent contributor to the Zoroastrianism article on its talk page. I noticed some edits today by 138.88.151.133 that just don't seem right but I'm not familiar enough with the topic to really know. Could you take a look and see if 138.88.151.133's contributions are accruate? Thanks! Tobycat 01:52, 29 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correcting the previous user's mistake. You are correct-the monarch is formally a component of Parliament. Deus Ex 19:23, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mormons and the Garden of Eden

The literature was confusing several things. I'm glad you asked. I'll try my best to answer your questions.

(1) Independence, Missouri is believed by Mormons to be the site of the Garden of Eden. Just north of there, in a place called Adam-ondi-Ahman is where the Mormons believed an important meeting took place in the days of Adam. I know what you're asking: How in the world can you possible believe that the Garden of Eden was in America of all places? Remember that before the time of Peleg, the earth was not divided. That is, it was Pangea, or one continent, surrounded by water on all sides. I speculate that the earth wasn't assembled such that the east coast of America was the west coast of Europe and Africa, as geologists will say. I speculate that it was actually the Pacific Ocean that was dry land (with all the islands being mountain tops). So the land area was massive, with the Atlantic Ocean being the only ocean. Now, we know from the Bible that the Garden of Eden was Eastward. This makes a lot more sense now because Independence, MO would have been near the East Coast of this Pangea. Perhaps the seas would've been raised significantly as well, causing Eden to be literally on the East Coast.

(2) Temples are built everywhere cities are built or inhabited by Mormons. Right now, there are hundreds of temples. There was supposed to be a temple at Independence, MO, but persecution there prevented it from happening. (See 1830s (Mormonism) for an example of what has happened. (Note, the RLDS church has built a temple in Independence. But the LDS church doesn't accept the authority of the RLDS and vice-versa. Therefore, the LDS church believes it is a great building that is pretty cool to look at, but it isn't a real temple where God can manifest himself and pour out blessings.)

(3) (Bonus material) LDS members believe that one of the events that precede the Second Coming is that the LDS church reoccupies Independence (after every living creature has been removed by some future event) and that the LDS church build a temple there. The LDS church believes that Independence is where Zion will be rebuilt, and it will spread (peacefully, not by coercion) to cover the entire earth from there. Right now, we are prevented from living the full law when it comes to building Zion. This is frustrating to more than a few members who would love to enter into the covenant to build Zion, myself included. I can tell you all sorts of neat things about what Zion is going to be like, and how it is going to be built, and I can show you what we have built so far (spiritually and temporally), but that's another discussion that I'm sure you are not interested in right now. Regardless, the temple is central to building Zion, and we can't begin building Zion without a temple.

That's the answer as completely and precisely as I can give it. To tell you the truth, I don't expect you to understand or even accept the things I described here. I don't believe the things here will build real faith in Jesus Christ, either. Rather, these things come after you have built a solid rock of faith and after you have the foundation laid. True faith can come only through close contact with the Father through personal, sincere prayer, and a desire to give everything up to serve him. So if you think I'm a nut, I understand why, and I won't hold it against you. ;-) Jgardner 17:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jedi MPs

One suspects the Jedi thing must be a joke. The speech was made during a debate on a proposed law to ban speech that "incites religious hatred", and in all probability he was mocking the idea of the Jedi religion being protected in this way... Evercat 29 June 2005 19:51 (UTC)

Wireless USB Responce

Not sure if you have gotten an answer to your question posted at talk:Wireless USB, so here's mine: Wireless usb uses much of the same technologies in USB but wirelessly, such as speed modes. Wireless USB would have a similar method used in WiFi, that it will not have wires and detect hubs wirelessly. I'd say there will be USB to Wireless USB adapters, pcimcia and the like.--x1987x June 30, 2005 16:07 (UTC)

Sorry about that - i just forgot to put back in the Bundesland part when i was editing. PMA 08:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My cover's blown

Jfruh, huh? I have my suspicions. So long as we only have this in common and not that. 13:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

It works fine for me; where does [1] take you?--Pharos 17:34, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm.. yes, the AP actually has a weird purist system where they won't host anything at their own site and you have to go through one of their affiliates. You can click the map and cookie in a news outlet you prefer to view AP content through. Anyway, I've changed the link so it goes straight to the USA Today copy.--Pharos 17:46, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

About Broomfield

I have created a section answering your question about Broomfield, Colorado. neoEinstein 08:23, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In looking at Image:Marchmetro.jpg, I've been trying to figure out which Metro station it is. It looks like it might be Stadium-Armory, but due to the fact that the image is somewhat blurred, I can't make a positive ID on it. Hoping you can shine some light on this. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:53, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dome of the Rock Revert

I wasn't disputing the importance of the Dome of the Rock. As my edit summary said, I was removing link spam. I have no doubt that the link contained good information, but when someone does nothing but add links to Wikipedia articles to their own Web site, it dilutes the quality of Wikipedia and unfairly rewards the link spammer. However, I am not going to revert your reversion. --Craig (t|c) 14:57, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander III

Yeah I'm not sure what to call that article...as I said on the talk page, I suppose he must be numbered after the Roman Alexanders, but I don't know. I see that I wrote the original article, and I assume I must have just clicked on a pre-existing link on the emperors list. Adam Bishop 21:55, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Green Line

You wrote on Talk:Green Line that you were re-organizing the line order in the Green Line dis-ambiguation page. You said you were going to do it for all of the line color dis-ambiguation pages, but I saw no edits to the others. (Note that there are a total of 8, including the Green Line page; these are Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Brown, and Pink.) Georgia guy 21:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Line colors done

I finally did the same thing you did to all the other color line dis-ambiguaiton pages except Brown Line, which didn't need any moving. Georgia guy 22:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Noticing your change from quality to high-capacity is narrowing the aspect. Yes, the article can be improved, but then the definition of BRT seems to be intentionally vague in itself, on top of being a broad catch-all term. From my European perspective on BRT it seems to me that not only BRT wants to be high-capacity (which it is not, it is moderate capacity, not more) while avoiding the logical step to trams, but also to avoid the word bus which apparently has a negative connotation in the US.

Although I reorganised the article some time ago (well short of a complete rewrite) I feel that the remaining incoherent article structure reflects the unsharp meaning of the BRT term itself. Like the unsharp buzzword of quality ;-) -- Klaus with K 11:09, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Khosrau/Chosroes

Hello - I've changed "Khosrau" to "Chosroes" because that's how Norwich, undoubtfully an expert in Byzantine History, calls him in his books. Also, if you type "Khosrau" in Google you will have only 20 thousands records, in compare to 48 thousands of "Chosroes". However, I haven't noticed indeed that in Wikipedia the form "Khosrau" is more common. But, actually, it's not very important, I guess. Pietia 13:36, 18 December 2005

Regal Names

I try...I try. If you are interested you can see my new HE template on my babel page - it's warm and inviting try it. Chooserr 07:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any opinion about this??

I think it is about time for a Wikiproject on rail lines. Any opinions?? Georgia guy 02:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PA election

Sorry to disappoint, but I haven't been following the run-up to the PA election in any detail. For one thing because I don't really expect it to happen, but also because I tend only to take a close interest in an election when the time comes to write it up. I have to say also that since Wilfried Dirksen moved his Electionworld website into Wikipedia, I've decided to stop writing election articles here (other than Australian ones). One resident election obsessive is enough, and I would rather concentrate on my own website, which is enough work to be going along with. I'm not prepared to follow Wilfried's example until Wikipedia adopts a system of protecting finished articles from vandalism, which I know won't happen. Adam 15:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response to what you wrote on my talk page about lines

You must mean classifying green lines by whether the commonly used name is "green line" or a variant implying it is green. Well, when using whether the term "green line" is widely used in deciding what to do with the line on the dis-ambiguation page, the choice would have to be to put the lines that are referred to almost exclusively as "the Green Line" of the appropriate rail system towards the top and those for which the commonly used term is a term independent of being green in color towards the bottom. Here is another question:

My talk page has 130 sections, which is almost 2/3 of the way towards the number of sections I want to know what to do when it reaches. Do you have a good decision?? Georgia guy 21:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your Green Line sandbox and it appears to be consistent with what I wrote above. However, there is one rule it doesn't follow; which is that links to dis-ambiguation pages should not be piped. Georgia guy 21:19, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Latin patriarchate

Hi, I am a bit all thumbs on this stuff, but I posted a reply to your query under what you sent me. Go well. Alfion.

Palestine

Good questions! Not sure - I'll have a look. AndrewRT 17:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see someone's corrected the PFLP mistake - the Alternative includes DFLP not PFLP, a mistake copied from the Jerusalem post. AndrewRT 18:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - Thanks for your kind comments. Unfortunately I've been away for the last few months on a research exchange program, so I wasn't there nor was I able to vote (sigh). I've I make contact with anybody who happened to have taken pictures, I'll see about getting them. In the meantime, I'll be recovering from the shock of these elections... Ramallite (talk) 18:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. State

Thanks for responding re my comment on U.S. State. I'm an attorney. If I really wanted to find the information for myself I could do so fairly easily. Someone else had requested the info and my point was that I don't think it should be in an article on U.S. State. It is probaby in the U.S. Constitution, so an explanation in that article would be appropriate.

RickReinckens 08:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikicity

You sound like a pretty big Harry Turtledove fan. I work at the Turtledove wikicity and we need as much help as we can get. Your help would be appreciated. Raylan 17:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jfruh, I'd be happy to update the Baltimore Light Rail transit map. I'll try to get around to it within the next couple of days. I'm glad you like my maps! I use a combination of Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop, and occasionally use ArcGIS when I need basemaps. Darkcore 12:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The map's up. Sorry for the delay - hope it's everything you wanted! Darkcore 01:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Island, New York, yes, that list of restaurants was no big deal, but whoever put them in there must believe they are IMPORTANT in Grand Island. Having been there, I can understand why. Stepp-Wulf 04:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Baltimore Neighborhoods

Considering your one of a few active editors that have taken an intrest in Baltimore Neighbourhood articles, i gigure i would run this by you. I am considering renaming the articled from their current format of Foo, Baltimore to Foo, Baltimore, Maryland. This eems to be a perferd way of naming neighborhood in US cities, though not all cities follow this format, and this would not effect all articles, their will be some exceptions. I have posted a mention of the List of Baltimore neighborhoods talk page and have not recived a responce in either way, though other editors that ih ave spoken with this that have made contrubutions to the article have not objected. Thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not an issue, was planning on takeing care of it, might just go forward over the weekend, between the several other things i am trying to do. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed tag

LOL! I was in the process of this when you left your message! -LambaJan 14:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh... what part of the Canada Line won't be SkyTrain technology?

Thanks for the explanation... I hadn't realised the whole thing was quite THAT ill-conceived. Joeyconnick 22:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Baltimore rowhouses

Thanks for update to Baltimore article. Didn't realize "rowhouse" was one word. Davidbober 17:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help

There is an unholy mess in the Maryland article regarding a section entitled "cultural identity." Most of the editors agree that the state is a Northern one, and many facts have been posted and adequately cited to prove that fact. A Confederate sympathizer, however, is constantly going onto the article, removing cited information, and replacing it with unsourced "statistics" that steer Maryland into the Southern category. Please read the whole debate, weigh in, and please, PLEASE, help.

History21 21:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)History21[reply]

T Third note on Muni template

Hi Joshua

You write:

I noticed you eliminated my note on the SF Muni template to the effect that the T Third line was not yet in service. While I admit that it clutters up the template a bit, I am a bit uneasy with just listing currently operating and proposed lines together with no indication as to which is which. Do you think there might be another better way to make this distinction?

I understand your reservations. The template already has a link to the Third Street Light Rail Project, which I think is currently the principal point of entry for the line. Given that, I think I'd suggest removing the reference to T Third from the template for now, and rely on an onward reference from the project article. Anybody following that link will already be in no doubt that the line is a future, rather than current, thing. Once the line goes live, then this will switch around. The line article will be the key entry point, and the project article becomes a secondary, history article. -- Chris j wood 16:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey on the use of Latinized/Greek names for Byzantine rulers

Hi. There is a survey on the names of Byzantine rulers at Talk:Constantine XI. Maybe you are interested in.--Panairjdde 18:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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30 minutes ago, an unregistered Wikipedian separated the line list at Green Line into 2 groups. I improved the edit recently. Any more improvements?? Georgia guy 16:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch on Miami-Dade Transit

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Hi Jfruh, sorry for not getting back to you right away. Thanks for your note on my page.

  • Does the 1988 "State of Palestine" have any institutions that are distinct (legally or practically) from the PLO?
Not really. Although there are some embassies in a number of countries that recognized the 1988 declaration that are the "Embassy of the State of Palestine", they are practically PLO offices and perform functions related to the PLO and, in some limited form, the Palestinian Authority. There are no official separate institutions that exclusively serve or belong to a "State of Palestine".
  • Hamas now participates in the activities of the PNA, but it is still not part of the PLO, correct?
Correct - The PLO comprises a number of different Palestinian liberation factions of which Hamas and other Islamic groups are not a part of. However, there is some movement to incorporate Hamas into the PLO, and this is one of the many things the so called "Prisoner's Document" that's in the news right now calls for. But to date this has not happened.
  • I get that the PNA was specifically created as a non-sovereign entity under Oslo, but since 2000 hasn't it started acting a bit more like a sovereign entity?
Quite the opposite. What happened after 2000 is that many of the agreements (and remember that Oslo was for all purposes an interim agreement that was supposed to last no longer than five years) collapsed. For example, the PNA was supposed to have "security control" over several areas of the occupied territories, but most of these areas have since been reinvaded by Israel. The PNA was supposed to be able to import and export merchandise under Israeli supervision, with tax revenues on Palestinian goods collected by Israel and transferred to the PNA, but now the merchandise has been blocked (especially in Gaza) and the tax revenues frozen. PNA officials were issued VIP cards by Israel that enabled them to enter Israel freely and enabled them to pass through Israel's airport security with minimal hassles. After 2000, all VIP cards were withdrawn and Israel's airport was blocked for use by any Palestinian, VIP or otherwise, and the Palestinians' own airport in Gaza was destroyed. So far from gaining additional sovereignty, Israel has retaken some of the few token functions that it allowed the Palestinians to have. On the other hand, the PNA was not empowered to have any foreign affairs business, as that would imply some sort of sovereignty, and as such the PNA was not, for example, allowed to have a "foreign minister". But since 2000, that position has been created, but it is more of a symbolic post just to fill a cabinet seat and the "foreign minister" has no powers that Israel doesn't want him to have (i.e. none). Even the president, Abbas, cannot move around without first clearing it with the Israeli authorities who grant him a permit to move between Gaza and the West Bank or to leave the country.
  • I know that there are such things as Palestinian passports -- who is eligable for these? Who issues them? Who recognizes them? And don't some states have diplomatic (though I'm guessing non-ambassadorial) relatiaons with the PNA, but not with the "State of Palestine"?
When Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, it immediately clamped curfews and took a census of the Palestinian residents (door to door). All registered Palestinians were granted Israeli army identity cards with a serial number, and any Palestinian who happened to be abroad (for work, study, or even a vacation) and was not present at the time of the census was ineligible for an ID card, and thus lost the right to reside in Palestine. Throughout the decades afterwards, the Israeli military did allow very small numbers of exiled Palestinians (I think it was around 100 people a year in good years and less in the worse years) to get an ID card. The ID card was the sole proof of a Palestinians right (or as Israelis saw it, privilege) to live in Palestine. After the PNA was established, anybody who had such an ID card was eligible for a "Palestinian passport", but no one else. So Palestinians who did not possess an ID card, for example, refugees in camps elsewhere, were not eligible. Many PLO people and their families were allowed by the Israelis to be repatriated in Palestine and obtain ID cards (which were by then converted from orange-coloured Israeli stamped ones to green-coloured Palestinian stamped ones albeit still written in Hebrew and assigned an Israeli serial number) and thus were able to get passports. These passports are olive-coloured and have the words "Passport" in Arabic on them, but "Passport/Travel Document" in English, because as I wrote above, Palestinians were not allowed to have any sort of sovereignty and the Israelis insisted that the passport not be a real passport, hence the caveat words "travel document". These passports are recognized worldwide except in a few Arab countries who did not appreciate the Palestinians' peace talks with Israel (e.g. Syria, Libya - places where I would never want to go to anyway). Most countries, including the EU, US, Africa, and South America, issue visas onto these passports, although now that Hamas has taken over the interior ministry responsible for their issuance, I don't know if Western countries will still recognize them. My current one expires in 2007, and I guess I'll find out. They are valid for only 3 years at a time and have to be renewed completely each time (which usually means that a bearer studying or working abroad has to travel back to Palestine or mail the passport with a power-of-attorney of some sort because most countries do not have Palestinian embassies.) They MUST be registered by the Israeli authorities, who still control the borders, otherwise the bearer is blocked from traveling. Many states have relations with the PNA, but Palestinian representatives to those states usually maintain a PLO office or a general delegation that is usually barred from performing any consular activity or official activity that would constitute a sign of sovereignty. They do not have diplomatic immunity. Conversely, many states (including EU countries but not the US) have representative offices in Palestinian areas. For example, there is a German official representative, a Norwegian, Swedish, etc in Ramallah, but their levels of function varies. Palestinians are normally allowed to apply for visas it these locations, but such applications are in turn sent to official embassies or consulates in Israel for processing.

I think my responses were a lot longer than you anticipated, but please let me know if you have any further questions / requests for clarification. Regards, Ramallite (talk) 21:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Civil partnerships

Hi. I notice that you reverted an annoymous user on the Civil partnerships in the United Kingdom article with the statement "revert -- why did you replace newer stats with older ones?". However, if you check the reference they added, you will see the figures were just published today. As the new figures go up to 31 March 06 instead of 31 January 06, I am not sure how they can be described as older. Can you please explain if I missed something, or otherwise revert to the previous figures? Thanks. Road Wizard 20:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hear, hear. And the revised and updated stats were accompanied by a correct link to the General Register Office for England & Wales Official Press Release 23/6/06 (i.e. today!). --GuillaumeTell 21:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. Road Wizard (see above) has re-reverted. Best. --GuillaumeTell 23:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I haven't responded sooner, I have been a little busy the last few days. The annonymous user re-reverted your edit, so there was no harm done. Happy editing. :) Road Wizard 20:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arianism

Dear Jfruh, I have read and considered what you wrote and have made some reverts again.

  • I have clarified Demophilus as Homoian. I think that should be correct (if not please tell me)
  • I have reinserted small, albeit qualified as rather small
  • Re "minimizing Theodosius' role", I don't think that I have done this. I have toned down what in my book was quite onesided language. "Impose" sound slike Theodosius forcing Nicea on all, which is POV at least. There was coercion in some areas (particular in giving back churches to the orthodox) but hardly the whole story. whereas "achieve" is much more inclusive.

Another thing: I don't know where to put that Spanish 16th century Arian. He surely didn't belong into the intro, but I am not happy about the new position either. Any suggestions? Str1977 (smile back) 21:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Please stop

Please stop promoting paganism like you did here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spencer_Perceval.

Thank you

Ice Cold 14:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is very clear what you`re doing,trying to make it look like he *believed* and things like that.Its not that he believed,its that he has discovered,so please stop trying to make it look like its doubtfull.Everyone know whathe discovered and just because you dont respect him or the Holy Book,thats not the reason to attack Perceval,becaue everyone knows that he was the greatest Prime Minister in the History of UK and Europe.

Ice Cold 15:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my God.Why do you hate Perceval soooooo much? Are you Irish or what?
Ice Cold 17:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]