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::There should be an image of the game in the infobox. I am not an expert on all the different versions of Tetris, but there must be an image somewhere that qualifies as a non-free screenshot, such as the one used in the infobox of [[Pac-man]]. --'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::There should be an image of the game in the infobox. I am not an expert on all the different versions of Tetris, but there must be an image somewhere that qualifies as a non-free screenshot, such as the one used in the infobox of [[Pac-man]]. --'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::For now, I'll use a shrunken version of the NES game's box art. --[[User:Damian Yerrick|Damian Yerrick]] ([[User talk:Damian Yerrick|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Damian Yerrick|stalk]]) 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::For now, I'll use a shrunken version of the NES game's box art. --[[User:Damian Yerrick|Damian Yerrick]] ([[User talk:Damian Yerrick|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Damian Yerrick|stalk]]) 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== WBOE=Preset ==

I more or less discovered that the Windows Best Of Entertainment version does not assign pieces randomly, but rather it's a carefully pre-arranged set or sets of pieces that are meant to [[accomodation|accomodate]] the preceding pieces so as to set up moves for you, thus making the game somewhat [[Predictability|predictable]]. To that extent, having realized that, the challenge then becomes a matter of how long you can think alongside the game as you lay down your pieces before the speed supercedes your ability to predict the [[gameplay]]. Again, don't ask me how I reached this conclusion as it just became suddenly apparent though it's definitely true.
-Alan [[Special:Contributions/24.184.184.177|24.184.184.177]] ([[User talk:24.184.184.177|talk]]) 03:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 03:07, 30 July 2008

Infinite play is fully possible, if you're playing under SRS mechanics

Pieces are not generated through purely random means, but rather through a bag-like algorithm. The seven pieces are generated in a random order, and so on. So it is never possible to encounter the same piece more than 3 times in a row. I'll dig up a source in a minute or so... --Nintendorulez talk 22:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Source here: http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php?title=Playing_forever --Nintendorulez talk 22:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


16/04/2007 Game speed

It mentions here that "They can no longer keep up with the increasing speed" however the game has a "speed limit" beyond which the game can't actually process the game mechanics any quicker, this occurs on level 200 heart (level 400 of the normal game) when the game is simply unable to get any faster and additional levels do not increase the game speed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.75.159.78 (talk)

True, the gravity on the Game Boy version has a maximum of 1/3G, but the DAS (sideways motion autorepeat) on the Game Boy version is ridiculously slow at 1/9G. Combined with no lock delay, this results in the accessible cone not entirely covering the bottom rows of the playfield. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 17:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The thing I always used to think about as a kid was whether it was possible to clear the screen completely once play had started. Anyone know about that? Phyte 15:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Clearing the screen is called a "bravo" and is worth extra points in Tetris The Grand Master. Colour_thief's latest version of the "Playing forever" proof (linked above) has a chance of producing a bravo every 140 pieces. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 19:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thanks :) Any place for this in the article, do you think? Phyte 20:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tetris Evolution

A new Tetris has been announced for Xbox Live Arcade called Tetris Evolution. I'm not familiar with this article, so can someone put this new info in the correct place? Thanks. JAF1970 18:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update - it's NOT an XBLA title. It's a retail title. JAF1970 20:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please merge relevant content, if any, from Tetris: From Russia With Love per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tetris: From Russia With Love. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-09 10:06Z

New image in infobox

A user has replaced the image in the infobox with a screenshot of the game, saying that this is more informative. The problem with the new screenshot, from Wikimedia Commons at [1] is that it is somewhat non-standard. It does not display the traditional pieces made from four squares (this is why the pieces are called tetrominoes). While the idea of a screenshot of the game is a good one in principle, it might be better to find a copyright free image that is closer to how the game normally looks.--Ianmacm 14:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does. If a line is cleared containing a piece, the blocks in the line are removed, and the piece no longer has four blocks in it. The only time you have all complete tetrominoes is if the player just started the game or recently bravoed (cleared all blocks in the playfield). But I can provide a screenshot of a Free (GPL) game that comes closer to the Guideline, at least with respect to colors, next, hold, ghost, etc. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 16:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the "movie."

unless somebody posts a little more information, this should be regarded as spam —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.141.6.112 (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Documentary

I think the article should be expanded to include more information from the From Russia With Love documentary (which just aired last night on the Discovery Science Channel here in the US). The history is quite interesting, and it would really add a lot to the article. - Oldiesmann 01:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

double rotation

The term Dual Rotation has been used as a trademark by Sherpa Snowshoes. This gaming article article only referred to dual roation one time, and in all other places referred to double rotation. So I edited to change to double rotation. Jeff@loquate.sbcgloabl.com

Record?

with my phone i have gotten to level 63 and 60. wen i got to level 63 on my phone, the game froze losin all my play!!! the second score was yesterday, my phone battery went dead durin the night! even though i had a full battery b4 goin to bed i didnt put it on charger cause wen i do that on full battery it overheats and turns on and off automatically so i knew that score wud hav been deleted either way. so is the scorin system and things the same with the phone anyway or am i just wastin my time?

Music

There's a lot of confusion around the web on what the music for the Gameboy/Tengen versions are based on. Music A GB is obviously the Korobeiniki, Music C is Bach, but Music B I haven't managed to find a definite answer for: it isn't the Kalinka in any version of it I've heard, and it isn't the Sugar Plum Fairy either. I don't know the Tengen one well enough to speculate. Anyone got anything definite? If I have some time in a week or so I may make a webpage with direct comparisons to clear up the issue once and for all.

Merge TetriNET?

TetriNET is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TetriNET, which will likely either result in keep or merge to Tetris. Please contribute to the discussion if able. here 18:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Year of creation

In the introduction says 1984 and in history 1985.

Timelessness

This article fails to mention that many people consider Tetris to be timeless... sort of like a new chess that people will still be playing and analyzing thousands of years from now. I can't find a source... but it's relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VFX Watch (talkcontribs) 06:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phantom piece

I distincly remember seeing a phantom option in the origanal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.87.123 (talk) 18 August 2007

What "phantom" in Tetris 3.12 appears to do is make the O tetromino invisible. It's not like the modern "ghost piece". --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 15:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The L-Block

The L-Block is tearing it up at the GameFaq's contest, after its conclusion I suggest we add a section about the "character" if not give it its own wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.76.123 (talk)

I agree, it should have its own section, though its own page may be pushing it.--Liekmudkipz 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The last sentence in the section needs to be removed, if the piece of trivia remains at all. It's not wikipedia's job to say what is and isn't a video game character. Especially since the source doesn't say it isn't one. Besides, it's clearly an alphanumeric character in a video game ("L" block). --72.138.186.64 12:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's the middle of May. 67.160.38.235 (talk · contribs) is deleting the paragraph again, writing (The tetris shape is not a videogame character that exhibits any human traits nor does it have its own persona therefor it cannot be considered a character, it was a comic relief element of a contest.) People who think Tetris shapes don't have a persona obviously haven't seen the cut-scenes in Kids Tetris. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 22:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the video I'm talking about. I've already used up my revert for the day, so I'll keep it on talk for a while. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 00:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing trivia

I integrated the interesting trivia points into the article, but a few just weren't significant enough to make their way in. The trivia warning box says after integration, to remove the inappropriate ones. Yay or nay? 72.150.35.103 22:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LBLOCK DESERVES HIS OWN PAGE

NOT A SINGLE WORD OF MENTION IN A TETRIS ARTICLE. MIGHT AS WELL PUT THE LEGEND OF ZELDA AND LINK IN THE SAME ARTICLE AS WELL. IT IS THE BEST PIECE --24.188.17.249 (talk) 2007-11-10T23:52:32

"Not a single word"? O RLY? Then what's this, quoted from the article as of right now?
The video game website GameFAQs hosted its 6th annual "Character Battle", in which the users nominate their favorite video game characters for a popularity contest in which characters participate. In 2007, the L-shaped Tetris piece (or "L-Block" as it was called) was entered into the contest as a joke. However, on 2007-11-04, it was confirmed to officially have won the contest.
What else must be said, other than what is already said here or in GameFAQs#Contests? --Damian Yerrick (serious | business) 06:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me just say this. First off L-Block isnt a character, but is a piece to the whole puzzle. To say it is a character is somewhat ignorant and silly. Also how can you say it is a male or female when in fact it has neither male or female reproductive organs. Giving L-Block its own page qould be rather absurd and a great waste of a wikipedia entry. Venomscarnage (talk) 00:20, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

L block is not a character the majority already acknowledges he was a joke entry in gamefaqs and is not an actual videogame character - people will continue to remove him from the page because stating he is a character on the tetris page is a form of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.38.235 (talkcontribs)

The point is that even if L-Block isn't a character, it still beat characters in the contest. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original/Standard scoring

I've noticed while many sources on the internet describe the Nintendo scoring scheme, in which points are awarded for lines and even more for combinations, almost none mention the original scoring scheme, in which points are only awarded for dropping pieces. The only source on the internet that I've found that actually describes the original scheme is

http://colinfahey.com/tetris/tetris.html

although it is alluded to in

http://books.google.com/books?id=HJNvZLvpCEQC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=tetris+spectrum+holobyte+scoring+no+points+lines&source=web&ots=sw1ukxcKpF&sig=UGhsa3NxA7sh1TZCwFdDHap1v8o

However, I'm not sure the first source counts as verifiable and I don't actually have access to the second source. I haven't played the original version, but I do know that the old Spectrum Holobyte version uses this scoring scheme (or something very similar). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.124.160 (talk) 07:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As of 2001, "standard" scoring is a constant times 1, 3, 5, 8 for 1, 2, 3, 4 lines, or 12 for a back-to-back 4 lines. I can provide a most reliable reference from the manuals of Tetris Worlds (GBA) and Tetris Zone and supporting references from various online descriptions of Tetris DS. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 13:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I downloaded the original version maybe a year ago, I can't remember where. But if you look, you can find it, and verify the scoring system, if you're really curious. But I guess that would be considered "original research" and not valid to be published here. 208.70.18.89 (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)XIF866[reply]

Tetris Movie?

Should we add a section regarding the Tetris movie that comes out August 20th, by Black 20? Trailer here: [2] Kei-clone (talk) 23:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any corresponding announcement on Tetris.com. I'll put it in the article if you can WP:CITE a couple independent reliable sources that demonstrate that the trailer is not a hoax. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, perhaps I should have linked to the mainpage for the movie instead [3]. Not sure about the lack of announcement on tetris.com, but it could be the indie nature of the movie that keeps it off the mainstream talks. Dunno what WP's policy is on indie movies, but I thought I should at least give it a mention here. Kei-clone (talk) 19:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia's core content policy is that all claims made in articles must be verifiable to reliable sources. The notability guidelines, such as the guideline for films, follow from this policy. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I was not aware that notability applied even to films. I shall return in the future to this article then as we come closer to release date, when (probably) reliable sources do come up. Kei-clone (talk) 03:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Title picture

The top-most picture is from "Emacs Tetris." That space should be reserved for a legitimately licensed game--or at least a game that was under the pretense of a license. 65.6.98.84 (talk) 18:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elorg (or whatever it's called now) has never licensed a Tetris® game as free software. I'm guessing the screenshot of the tetromino game in GNU Emacs got put there because some editor interpreted non-free content criterion 1 to preclude the use of a screenshot of an authentic Tetris game. I just removed the image for now, so as not to imply that the tetromino game in GNU Emacs is an authentic Tetris game. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There should be an image of the game in the infobox. I am not an expert on all the different versions of Tetris, but there must be an image somewhere that qualifies as a non-free screenshot, such as the one used in the infobox of Pac-man. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For now, I'll use a shrunken version of the NES game's box art. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WBOE=Preset

I more or less discovered that the Windows Best Of Entertainment version does not assign pieces randomly, but rather it's a carefully pre-arranged set or sets of pieces that are meant to accomodate the preceding pieces so as to set up moves for you, thus making the game somewhat predictable. To that extent, having realized that, the challenge then becomes a matter of how long you can think alongside the game as you lay down your pieces before the speed supercedes your ability to predict the gameplay. Again, don't ask me how I reached this conclusion as it just became suddenly apparent though it's definitely true. -Alan 24.184.184.177 (talk) 03:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]