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The result was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 09:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parker Short

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Withdrawn by nominator I have come to realize that this article was just very badly written while not citing more notable relevant sources. I will make corrections. I have asked the author to leave me alone as he is making me feel uncomfortable with personal attacks and assumptions. I hope he will respect that. Dr-james-russell (talk) 00:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notability, lack of sources. Sourcing not referring to subject but rather an organization he is affiliated with. Dr-james-russell (talk) 23:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a news nerd and noticed this guy popping up in news articles and social media posts being highlighted in my feeds. Legit wanted to know who he was, was harder to find with the search engines and really the only thing I found on background was Wikipedia. Seems silly to delete, he's now part of the discussion. No reason to depublish the guy for being effective at getting himself noticed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.197.172.244 (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 21:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahant Nirmal Das

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:NBASIC. Nothing has changed since the last two AfDs as far as I can tell. C F A 💬 16:11, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Vera Monroig

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Fails WP:NPOL. A mayor of Adjuntas needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO to merit a standalone article, Monroig does not pass any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 11:36, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rigoberto Ramos

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Simply fails WP:NPOL. Nothing to establish notability based on WP:GNG either. A mayor of Adjuntas has to pass GNG or ANYBIO to merit a standalone page. Ramos does not pass any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 00:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Furqan

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A mayor with not much media coverage. Doesn't seem notable per WP:NPOL. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Furqan is the mayor of a city with over 800,000 people and there are many Hindi language sources; Dainik Jagran, Amar Ujala, Dainik Bhaskar, Jansatta, and Aaj Tak Microplastic Consumer (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 17:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mukesh Sharma Pahalwan

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Subject does not pass NPOL or GNG. Almost all the paragraphs failed verification in the initial article that was draftified [8]. The rest are routine coverage and passing mentions from recent Indian elections. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 20:54, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yazeed Al Rashed Al Khuzai

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Doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR. An author with non notable literary works. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 18:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 17:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2001 Lancaster, Pennsylvania mayoral election

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No lasting notability for this election, fails WP:NEVENT. Let'srun (talk) 16:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramesh Kapur

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Fails WP:NBIO. The article has been padded-out with lots of passing mentions of the subject donating to this or that campaign, but the only significant coverage is in Caravan magazine (notably less positive than the current version of the article) and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (essentially an interview). One independent source isn't enough to achieve a neutral point of view. – Joe (talk) 08:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Technically true. And another closer might come along and do just that. But, as for me, I like to see at least one other editor's opinion besides the nominator. I don't think a single opinion counts as "consensus". But that's how I handle things and if this discussion is relisted twice with no further participation, I probably will close this as a Soft Deletion. But after just a week, I like to relist to see if other editors have an argument to make. Liz Read! Talk! 04:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Coachman

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Non-notable political candidate. Of the 25 sources cited on the page: 1 is his campaign website, 4 are election results pages, 1 is a poll, 2 are Ballotpedia, 5 are brief WP:ROTM articles about him declaring his candidacy, 1 is about the recall he started and includes quotes from him, and 6 don't even mention Coachman. The remaining 3 are more in-depth articles from local outlets focusing on his attempted recall or the time he tried to arrest city council members. Coachman certainly rises above the level of a random perennial candidate, but that's not enough for notability, and I don't think he meets WP:GNG based on the coverage I'm seeing here. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 17:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it is hard not to see this article as part of his campaign, given the timing. (This month) Lamona (talk) 17:45, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't go that far, the editor who created the page does a lot of editing on North Dakota election pages. They probably just (mistakenly) thought Coachamn was notable. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 16:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. The delete !votes do not only outnumber the keeps 2 to 1 (counting nominator), but more importantly because it's not a vote, their commenters address issues of notability and coverage more clearly and more in line with policy. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 20:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alfonso de Ceballos-Escalera y Gila

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The presently used references are either primary or unreliable sources. The article was deleted on Spanish Wikipedia in 2018; that discussion also points out the issues with this article. toweli (talk) 12:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete He has written books, many on heraldry, but even on the Spanish Amazon his books do not have traction (no outside reviews, no stars). This article has more about Spanish peerage than about him, and the few sources are things that are about like ancestry.com. Of the sources mentioned above I can only access the first one, and that is about his house. That doesn't translate to notability. Lamona (talk) 00:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. Authoring a book is not grounds for notability as anyone can write and publish - the relevant policy is WP:AUTHOR. The article seems like a vanity piece and has factual errors. He is not "King of Arms of Spain" - "The last Chronicler Kings of Arms appointed by the Spanish Ministry of Justice, Don Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent, died in 2005." He is apparently "Chronicler of Arms for Castile and León" but I can't find a good source for that claim right now. D1551D3N7 (talk) 14:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 04:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Smuts in British Transvaal

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This article is entirely unsourced and reads like an essay. The topic itself does not appear sufficiently notable for its own article. While a merge has been suggested in edit histories, doing so would require the introduction of unsourced and essay-like material into an otherwise non-problematic page. Additionally, a section to this effect already exists at Jan Smuts. The content of the article is not suitable for any page and thus should be deleted. Garsh (talk) 02:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 04:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrey Rudoy

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Seems to fail WP:NBIO. The Russian sources on this person's activities presented in the article are either blogs or very insignificant media. The conformity of WP:POLITICIAN and WP:SINGER criteria are also failed. Dantiras (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 06:12, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A. K. A. Firoze Noon

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From reading the cringe-worthy prose of early revisions ("one of the finest sons of the soil, who shines in the civil and political society all by his own radiance ...", etc.), this appears to have been created as a memorial, which is not what the encyclopedia is for.

Searching online and offline in English and Bengali found nothing beyond the short obituary and death anniversary notice, a primary source program listing, and bookseller sites. It doesn't amount to significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources.

After stripping out everything for which no source could be identified, it is clear that he meets none of WP:POLITICIAN, WP:CREATIVE, or WP:GNG. Worldbruce (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete It's one of those articles which at least suggests there's more out there based on what's in the article, but the death notice is only a few sentences long and I can't easily find any other secondary sources on him in English. I'm only "weak" to signify the fact there may be more on him in offline, non-English sources. SportingFlyer T·C 02:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 04:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mehrali Gasimov

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The individual's activities have not been topic of secondary reliable sources and there is no significant coverage. If you look at the article, it only provides information about the person's education and later acquisition of the relevant position. The position held by the individual and the award received do not alone make him notable. The references given do not meet significant coverage; they are merely brief news reports about visits, congratulations, and meetings. Additionally, it's worth noting that there are suspicions that this article was created through UPE (see). It is one of several articles created in multiple language sections for advertising purposes using paid editing. Sura Shukurlu (talk) 17:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:TNT. Jdcomix (talk) 21:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. I note that an honorary counsel or diplomat is not automatically notable. Also, the third level award he received is not considered automatically notable. Bearian (talk) 04:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Valid arguments on both sides, and little point in extending this for a fourth week after the previous relisting yielded no additional participation. Owen× ☎ 12:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of electoral firsts in New Zealand

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Fails WP:NLIST. Closest thing I can find is this: [9]. Ultimately this is WP:LISTCRUFT with no reliable source dictating which 'firsts' are notable and worthy of inclusion. All MPs are presumed notable so having them be notable by other characteristics typically involves original research. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DISAGREE Re ‘’ List of electoral firsts in New Zealand ‘’ Wikipedia articles on individual MPs frequently refer to an individual MPs claim to fame eg being the longest serving MP (Rex Mason), and the parliamentary website itself has a list of “longest serving Members of Parliament” [[ https://www.parliament.nz/en/visit-and-learn/mps-and-parliaments-1854-onwards/longest-serving-members-of-parliament/ ]]. There are similar lists for other countries eg List of electoral firsts in Canada and List of electoral firsts in the United Kingdom. Hence I do not see the need for an item by item justification of this or similar lists. Hugo999 (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OSE and what Wikipedia writes isn't relevant here. WP:NLIST is which states: 'Notability guidelines also apply to the creation of stand-alone lists and tables. Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list. The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been'. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment can you explain your logic with All MPs are presumed notable so having them be notable by other characteristics typically involves original research.? I don't follow at all, and your point here seems to be adding 2 and 2 to get 7. Turnagra (talk) 20:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many of these entries involve original research, for example Iriaka Ratana's source here: [10] does not say she is the first. Instead someone has come to that conclusion via their own research. Stating that these MPs are notable for their 'firsts' is also typically original research, as without a source that states it it's an assumption that their 'first' made them notable rather than the fact that being an MP makes one notable. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having sourcing issues doesn't necessarily mean that it's original research, though. A cursory google search of that specific example found this within about 20 seconds. I also still fail to see how their inclusion of a first leads to the assumption you're stating at the end, or how that somehow diminishes the notability of the list. I think at the moment I'm leaning heavily towards keep. Turnagra (talk) 20:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That still doesn't state she was the first MP to give birth. NLIST requires it to have been discussed as a group by a set of independent reliable sources and I do not see any group discussing it. I see no evidence of notability of a list of 'firsts'. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's great, tag it with Template:Citation needed. MPs are discussed as a group and first things are notable to mention - not to mention there are dozens of other "lists of firsts". I'm tapping out of this one now, so no need to continue responding to try and push your point further. Turnagra (talk) 23:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I suggest that other "List of electoral firsts in ..." be added to this AfD. I get the trivia argument and think it applies to them all, not just this one. Kiwichris (talk) 04:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If this AfD is successful I will nominate other similar lists. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The similar lists should be considered together as a group, not one by one, and should include the category Category:Lists of the first women holders of political offices. So are you prepared to resubmit a proposal to delete as a group all the lists you think should be deleted? This is so that people who object to List C being deleted are not told that it has already been discussed for List A and List B without your participation? Hugo999 (talk) 22:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you wish to discuss how to go about deletion of other list articles we can do it on my talk page rather than here. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As I noted above the New Zealand Parliament website has a section called

Doubtless the Parliamentary staff (Parliamentary Library researchers ) got enquiries from both visitors and other MPs, and wanted a reliable source! Hugo999 (talk) 05:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the lists at [11] - this isn't random TRIVIA but is normal statistics of who has served in the legislature, and any cleanup of being discriminate (most of it is) can be performed in editing. NLIST requires sources, this is source-able. SportingFlyer T·C 04:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 05:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Togbe Abutia Kodzo Gidi V

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The references that are presently used in the article mention him once at most. toweli (talk) 18:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Preston Kulkarni

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Non-notable former congressional candidate. Given the coverage cited on this page, it's clear that Kulkarni received more media attention than your average congressional candidate, but I don't think a few articles in national outlets is enough. Plus, in the 4 years since his last congressional run, Kulkarni seems to have received zero media coverage. The fact that his media attention completely dried up the moment he was no longer running shows that he isn't notable and that people probably won't be searching for him in 10 years. This article was previously nominated for deletion in May, but that discussion was closed as "no consensus" after only 1 editor participated. That editor voted keep--but they seem to have a personal connection to Kulkarni, judging by the fact that they uploaded the photo of him on the page and tagged it as "own work." BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 20:18, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. No comments since the second relisting so I'm going to close this as No consensus as there is disagreement over whether sources are sufficient.

Reading through these comments, I initially thought that a Redirect to List of mayors of Ljubljana would be a compromise but this page is composed of just a list without structure to include any prose content. If that situation ever changes, a bundled nomination of lesser notable mayors to Redirect to that page might be considered in the future. Right now though, there is support to keep this as a standalone article as well as editors who are arguing for an article deletion so we are at a stalemate. Liz Read! Talk! 21:50, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jurij Viditsch

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A 17th century Slovenian mayor is hardly notable enough to keep a page here. Although he was mayor of Ljubljana, the capital city of Slovenia, which could be grounds for some notability, no sources exist which make significant mention of his life or do anything more substantial than say his name.

Here are all existing sources I could find about him:

  • [12] (which apparently consists of articles from Wikipedia according to this site here)
  • [13] (only mentions him once)

The only page on Wikipedia that even makes mention of him is List of mayors of Ljubljana. If it weren't for similarly useless pages about mayors from Ljubljana's history whose pages should be deleted alongside this one, this page would be an Orphan. Fringe, Suspect The (talk) 12:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. He was a town judge, an innkeeper, and a mayor of what is now a capital city of an independent country, so there clearly is historical interest in keeping information on this person. There are in-depth discussions of him in the relevant literature; see e.g. Ljubljana Mayors Through Time (pg. 73). I could agree on having this article merged elsewhere but not on its outright deletion. --TadejM my talk 13:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete. The currently cited sources are short descriptions or lists. There is no WP:SIGCOV on online sources. The source cited by TadejM is also a short description, not in-depth discussion. I would have agreed with Soman on being careful with applying contemporary notability standards for historical figures, however, notable historical figures are still covered in-depth by reliable sources; old, printed ones, if not available online. We don't have proof of those at this time to say the subject merits an encyclopedia article. Prof.PMarini (talk) 01:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:SIGCOV: "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention," which is a clear case here. The said article illustrates the person's notability and it is not a trivial mention. There is no mention of 'short description' in the relevant guideline. You may compare this article e.g. to this one that we have decided to keep. I would hope that a historical personality is at least on par with a random sportswoman who got to participate in the Olympics. --TadejM my talk 05:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here (Something about Ljubljana street names and surnames from the early 17th century (according to two new urbaria from 1620-1633)) is another reference that provides further information on Jurij Viditsch (Georg Widitsch) and describes him as a very notable personality for Ljubljana at the time. The article discusses in depth two urbaria composed under Jurij Viditsch. --TadejM my talk 07:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While we shouldn't necessarily apply contemporary notability standards for historical figures, there is no reason to apply it backwards either, i.e. claim that a mayor of a city which is a capital now is equivalent to the city holding capital status then. Re: your other points: Sportspeople that participate in the Olympics are not random, they are meticulously selected - nonetheless a Wikipedia entry about an Olympian is deleted almost every day. So it's a completely flawed analogy Geschichte (talk) 11:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you back up these claims with a reference or is it pure speculation? Ljubljana was a major cultural and economic hub at the time as it was the capital of Carniola.[16][17] There is no evidence of a meticulous selection for the said sportsperson in reliable sources. Mayors are selected meticulously too and this mayor pursued a successful career before he was appointed. --TadejM my talk 11:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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